Possibly screwed up ordering a new fuel pump
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Possibly screwed up ordering a new fuel pump
Was perusing the forums for a fix, takeoff from 0 mph gives a little hesitation as if it isn't getting enough fuel, sure enough found someone somewhere say my 30 year old fuel pump probably needs to be replaced. Figured it would be a good idea as the vacuum lines were replaced earlier this year and it's the cheapest thing I figured to do since I noticed a big drop in economy (14 combined vs 18 last month). Looking around some said to get a stock one and others said a Walbro 255 would do the trick and allow for future modification, so I ordered that and picked up a Bosch universal O2 sensor, too. Now having received it:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/171155381796?item=171155381796&viewitem=&vxp=mtr
Reading about it I've found that apparently without some very out of-my-league changes it's going to cause the engine to run rich, given that the stock FPR won't recognize the increase in pressure. I've never actually replaced a fuel pump before and haven't had much luck finding definitive info on it, but I know how to get to it and I've never had a problem with wiring. Is there something I can do to accommodate this pump, or is there a different one I should order instead and attempt to return this one? My specs are as follows:
1988 Vert NA, purchased April 2015
100,000 mi at the time
108,xxx currently
No aftermarket parts AFAIK
Before I took ownership:
New vacuum lines
New spark plugs
POSSIBLE d-cap and rotor, not sure I believe him but no problems as of yet
Basic checks done by PO's personal mechanic, car is certainly safe to drive
Work I've done/plan to:
New brakes/rotors following a minor accident due to PO's omission of brake condition
Checked by shop, still safe post-collision
*Almost New* TEIN Flex coilovers courtesy of RXSpeed16
New battery
Updated stereo, 2 dash 2 door 1 10 inch sub + amp
New fuel filter
New check valve (failed evap pressure test the first time)
2 oil changes, currently on non-synthetic 10-40 (side note, best rating for AZ-CA car? Next oil change soon)
Alternator on the way
Full RB exhaust planned later this year
So yeah. I spent a good while looking but I've been known to miss very informative threads, on the off chance there's not one, can anyone confirm that this pump is OK to use and/or do I need to order anything else to make it work properly?
What made me worry was a slip in the package saying:
****ALL GSL392 PUMPS****
You MUST run a HIGH volume filter BEFORE pump. I recommend Napa 3310 for 5/16 line and 3482 for 3/8 line these are cheap high volume filters
Which led me to find the thread noting the problem with it running rich.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/171155381796?item=171155381796&viewitem=&vxp=mtr
Reading about it I've found that apparently without some very out of-my-league changes it's going to cause the engine to run rich, given that the stock FPR won't recognize the increase in pressure. I've never actually replaced a fuel pump before and haven't had much luck finding definitive info on it, but I know how to get to it and I've never had a problem with wiring. Is there something I can do to accommodate this pump, or is there a different one I should order instead and attempt to return this one? My specs are as follows:
1988 Vert NA, purchased April 2015
100,000 mi at the time
108,xxx currently
No aftermarket parts AFAIK
Before I took ownership:
New vacuum lines
New spark plugs
POSSIBLE d-cap and rotor, not sure I believe him but no problems as of yet
Basic checks done by PO's personal mechanic, car is certainly safe to drive
Work I've done/plan to:
New brakes/rotors following a minor accident due to PO's omission of brake condition
Checked by shop, still safe post-collision
*Almost New* TEIN Flex coilovers courtesy of RXSpeed16
New battery
Updated stereo, 2 dash 2 door 1 10 inch sub + amp
New fuel filter
New check valve (failed evap pressure test the first time)
2 oil changes, currently on non-synthetic 10-40 (side note, best rating for AZ-CA car? Next oil change soon)
Alternator on the way
Full RB exhaust planned later this year
So yeah. I spent a good while looking but I've been known to miss very informative threads, on the off chance there's not one, can anyone confirm that this pump is OK to use and/or do I need to order anything else to make it work properly?
What made me worry was a slip in the package saying:
****ALL GSL392 PUMPS****
You MUST run a HIGH volume filter BEFORE pump. I recommend Napa 3310 for 5/16 line and 3482 for 3/8 line these are cheap high volume filters
Which led me to find the thread noting the problem with it running rich.
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I think the main issue is that you have an in-line fuel pump unit, and not an in-tank unit. I have a Walbro 255 in tank with the install kit for my '88 vert, and all I had to do was upgrade to a universal adjustable Fuel Pressure Regulator and remove my stock unit. I also completely rewired the pump with a relay, a large power wire direct from the battery (with a fuseable link) and used the stock wire as a "trigger" for the relay. I can give you more details on all of this if needed.
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You want the first one on this list to make it easy for yourself:
Walbro Pumps
Walbro Pumps
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or send them all back and buy an OE replacement pump, there is NO REASON TO PUT A WALBRO 255 OR HIGHER RATED PUMP IN AN N/A CAR! THESE PUMPS ARE FOR CARS RUNNING UP TO 400WHP AND THE RESULTING PRESSURE RISE WILL JUST WASTE FUEL AND RESULT IN LESS POWER, KILL THE PULSATION DAMPENER/FPR QUICKER AND CARBON UP YOUR ENGINE.
the threads pertaining to upgraded pumps are for turbo cars only or HIGHLY modified n/a. anyone who has ever said it is a good choice for a stock non turbo car should just be banned for idiocy from the forum.
there is few upgrades to an n/a that warrant anything more than a stock pump short of nitrous.
the threads pertaining to upgraded pumps are for turbo cars only or HIGHLY modified n/a. anyone who has ever said it is a good choice for a stock non turbo car should just be banned for idiocy from the forum.
there is few upgrades to an n/a that warrant anything more than a stock pump short of nitrous.
Last edited by misterstyx69; 09-22-15 at 09:34 AM.
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or send them all back and buy an OE replacement pump, there is NO REASON TO PUT A WALBRO 255 OR HIGHER RATED PUMP IN AN N/A CAR! THESE PUMPS ARE FOR CARS RUNNING UP TO 400WHP AND THE RESULTING PRESSURE RISE WILL JUST WASTE FUEL AND RESULT IN LESS POWER, KILL THE PULSATION DAMPENER/FPR QUICKER AND CARBON UP YOUR ENGINE.
the threads pertaining to upgraded pumps are for turbo cars only or HIGHLY modified n/a. anyone who has ever said it is a good choice for a stock non turbo car should just be banned for idiocy from the forum.
there is few upgrades to an n/a that warrant anything more than a stock pump short of nitrous.
the threads pertaining to upgraded pumps are for turbo cars only or HIGHLY modified n/a. anyone who has ever said it is a good choice for a stock non turbo car should just be banned for idiocy from the forum.
there is few upgrades to an n/a that warrant anything more than a stock pump short of nitrous.
Last edited by misterstyx69; 09-22-15 at 09:34 AM.
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@everyoneelse gotcha, definitely my bad not having read more beforehand. Thank you very much, I'll see what I can do about returning the Walbro and picking up the proper pump.
*EDIT*
Bosch 69407 from RockAuto, looks like the right one. Should probably replace the strainer too, yeah?
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I must have been watching an install video on an S5 or something because it looked like the pump would slip right in.
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