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Old 10-15-08, 02:18 AM
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What would you prefer for drifting?

So I'm getting a Rx-7 pretty soon it has a blown engine what I was thinking of doing with it is putting
in a LS1 or rebuild the engine I'm not really sure yet, so what engine would you guys think would be better for drifting,
also if I decide to rebuild the 13b and add lots of mod instead of dropping in a LS1 what would I have to do to make 550+ reliable horsepower?
Would it be possible to make that much reliable hp out of a 13b? sorry if I sound stupid but I just hear lots of bad things about the rotary
thats why I was thinking of a LS1 swap. So please give me your opinion of the better engine and what would be better for drifting.
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if you do an lsgay swap you will never touch rev limiter aka you wont be cool.
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i would perfer an ls1 for drifting....but rotorys are ******* cool so i will probly just keep rebuilding mine.
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Originally Posted by J-a-m-i-e
So I'm getting a Rx-7 pretty soon it has a blown engine what I was thinking of doing with it is putting
in a LS1 or rebuild the engine I'm not really sure yet, so what engine would you guys think would be better for drifting,
also if I decide to rebuild the 13b and add lots of mod instead of dropping in a LS1 what would I have to do to make 550+ reliable horsepower?
Would it be possible to make that much reliable hp out of a 13b? sorry if I sound stupid but I just hear lots of bad things about the rotary
thats why I was thinking of a LS1 swap. So please give me your opinion of the better engine and what would be better for drifting.

Well in all honesty more HP isn't gonna make you a great drifter it just makes initiating drifts easier.
So either one will get you going the ls1 has a lower rev limit and more horsepower in stock form.
The 13b can get up to 200 hp with ports but its very difficult to turbo a 13b it has been done though.
However if you are looking into a swap a TII engine would get you much more bang for your buck as its generally cheaper than turbocharging a 13b.
I would recommend that for drifting you get a very very good suspension setup or else it won't matter what you put into the car as it will hit the wall if you don't.

My advise would be to get a tII motor and swap that into the car. That and GOOD SUSPENSION.
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unless your a pro driver you wont need 550hp,
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LS1 easy power and reliability
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I say if you have the money to buy an LS1, why not go with a 13B-T? There's more power for you right there and it's still a rotary engine.
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Honestly strictly speaking, the LS1 swap is a lot easier to drive. I am sure you have read the pros and cons of the swap. It is a lot of money and you really need to mod the LS to handle continuous revs seen by a drifter, but since you are a beginner you won't be there for a long time.

On the other hand is the turbo swap, a bit cheaper than a LS and about the same work. I am a die hard Rotary guy and always will be but after driving a few LS powered cars I would like to have one in the future but I am not gonna tear my rotary out for it so I wil lhave to get another car for that project.
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Originally Posted by Ranzo
Honestly strictly speaking, the LS1 swap is a lot easier to drive. I am sure you have read the pros and cons of the swap. It is a lot of money and you really need to mod the LS to handle continuous revs seen by a drifter, but since you are a beginner you won't be there for a long time.

On the other hand is the turbo swap, a bit cheaper than a LS and about the same work. I am a die hard Rotary guy and always will be but after driving a few LS powered cars I would like to have one in the future but I am not gonna tear my rotary out for it so I wil lhave to get another car for that project.
Ok, so I know this might sound weird, but I have these old race videos I whipped out the other day and there was a guy there named Ranzo with a gunmetal FC in Japan. That uh, wouldn't happen to be you would it? If it isn't I'll feel really dumb.
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Originally Posted by Grappler
Well in all honesty more HP isn't gonna make you a great drifter it just makes initiating drifts easier.
So either one will get you going the ls1 has a lower rev limit and more horsepower in stock form.
The 13b can get up to 200 hp with ports but its very difficult to turbo a 13b it has been done though.
However if you are looking into a swap a TII engine would get you much more bang for your buck as its generally cheaper than turbocharging a 13b.
I would recommend that for drifting you get a very very good suspension setup or else it won't matter what you put into the car as it will hit the wall if you don't.

My advise would be to get a tII motor and swap that into the car. That and GOOD SUSPENSION.
You should post less.
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Originally Posted by blackedoutFC3S
I say if you have the money to buy an LS1, why not go with a 13B-T? There's more power for you right there and it's still a rotary engine.
200hp is more than 350hp? Did you fail school?
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ALL i know is after seeing TEchtrix v8 fc run in person, that is a BEASSSTTTT... He would initiate on Balcony simply by shifting into fourth, soo much power... OMG. Id be scared driving with that much acceleration. TIRESMOKING monster. I wonder with that extra weight in the car[v8], how would it feel drifting, compared to a 13bt? It must carry alot of momentum ill bet...

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A ls6 t56 combo weights ~ 50lbs more than a 13b-t and trans. Can you feel the difference of 50lbs hanging under your car?
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yeah, my car weighs about 60-70 lbs more with the LS6 than it did with my RE motor/v mount/big turbo motor did. the weight is a bit further forward and higher up with the v8, and you can (i can) feel the difference. turn in is a bit slower, and the car reacts differently.

jamie- have you drifted before, in an fc, or any other car? if not, drop a stock motor in your car, (turbo or NA) and go drive it. save the $10- $20k or so you would spend on getting 550 reliable hp and spend your money on drift events and tires.

Tataki- i have an lsgay motor and im on the rev limiter all the time (rotarys sound way cooler though)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC3m9960w7w
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Originally Posted by Turbo II Rotor
200hp is more than 350hp? Did you fail school?
I meant the Turbo II motor over the N/A motor bud.
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Originally Posted by TechTrix
Tataki- i have an lsgay motor and im on the rev limiter all the time (rotarys sound way cooler though)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC3m9960w7w
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Originally Posted by Grappler
Well in all honesty more HP isn't gonna make you a great drifter it just makes initiating drifts easier.
So either one will get you going the ls1 has a lower rev limit and more horsepower in stock form.
The 13b can get up to 200 hp with ports but its very difficult to turbo a 13b it has been done though.
However if you are looking into a swap a TII engine would get you much more bang for your buck as its generally cheaper than turbocharging a 13b.
I would recommend that for drifting you get a very very good suspension setup or else it won't matter what you put into the car as it will hit the wall if you don't.

My advise would be to get a tII motor and swap that into the car. That and GOOD SUSPENSION.
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Originally Posted by TechTrix
i have an lsgay motor and im on the rev limiter all the time (rotarys sound way cooler though)
I like a v8 sound more.
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Originally Posted by blackedoutFC3S
I meant the Turbo II motor over the N/A motor bud.
so your saying a TII motor has more hp than a LS-series motor? your still wrong
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Originally Posted by RE TurboII
so your saying a TII motor has more hp than a LS-series motor? your still wrong
Alright people, what im saying is that the Turbo II Rotary Engine has more power then the Naturally Aspirated Rotary Engine. So, if he wants to have more power and he has some more money and he wants to stay rotary he should go with the Turbo Rotary Engine. Thank you.
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I'm a purist and I'd say go with the 13B-T. If you really want to be different and get some power get a 20B
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Originally Posted by TechTrix

jamie- have you drifted before, in an fc, or any other car? if not, drop a stock motor in your car, (turbo or NA) and go drive it. save the $10- $20k or so you would spend on getting 550 reliable hp and spend your money on drift events and tires.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC3m9960w7w
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Originally Posted by TechTrix
yeah, my car weighs about 60-70 lbs more with the LS6 than it did with my RE motor/v mount/big turbo motor did. the weight is a bit further forward and higher up with the v8, and you can (i can) feel the difference. turn in is a bit slower, and the car reacts differently.

jamie- have you drifted before, in an fc, or any other car? if not, drop a stock motor in your car, (turbo or NA) and go drive it. save the $10- $20k or so you would spend on getting 550 reliable hp and spend your money on drift events and tires.

Tataki- i have an lsgay motor and im on the rev limiter all the time (rotarys sound way cooler though)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC3m9960w7w
So are you saying to drop a stock LS1 right? also could I still use the engine mounts
for the LS1 for the LS6?


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