Who is the administrative contact for this forum now?
The biggest problem that I have with all of this is that they seem to be in a hurry to enforce the rules (new or not, but it certainly goes against the status quo) while they are in no rush at all to come here and explain things or give us the new options and advertising rates. How hypocritical can you get?
Wouldnt that be like arresting people for speeding 5 over the limit but not giving them a court date, and keeping them in jail in the meantime? This is really throwing a wrench into the workings...
Wouldnt that be like arresting people for speeding 5 over the limit but not giving them a court date, and keeping them in jail in the meantime? This is really throwing a wrench into the workings...
This is DEFINITELY the biggest problem here. Why are all the mods being soooo hasty to enforce the rules and not nearly as quick to give us solutions or answers to the problems?!?
If you guys expect us to give you time, then why aren't we being offered the same courtesy? Let things be until you all have some solid information to provide us. I've been pretty civil about this situation and will continue to be so, but this is pretty bad.
Finally, I'd like to know why I've been givin' a warning too? I'm definitely not a vendor, don't own my own shop and I don't sell multiple similar items. I've owned a few RX-7's and I simply sell the stuff I have from them. I usually lose money on selling items simply because I change my mind so often. Most items I sell are the ones that have been replaced by something newer or better, IMO. What I do is in NO way a business, but instead helps me to continue funding my projects without tooo much of a lose. A PM with an answer would be nice...
Thanks,
Rizwan
Set up a tiered pricing structure
A thought and a suggestion.
I find it a bit unnerving that a big company, with plenty of experience running forums, needs advice or suggestions on how to make money doing it.
With that said, they should look at a tiered approach for both vendors and casual vistors.
Classifieds should be charged on an item sold basis. This is similar to what Audiogon does. www.audiogon.com. You want to list an item on that site, it is a flat $6. These are usually very expensive items though. For the RX7 club, I would suggest that a % fee is charged based on an asking price from the seller. Do the same to a lesser degree, maybe even a small flat fee for WTB ad's. This way the forum owners make money on the classified sections, and the sellers are free to pass this expense onto the buyer if they so wish. An ancillary benefit would be to rid the for sale section of unnecessary posts.
Vendors would be subject to the same fee for classified ads, but would pay a different monthly fee for the ability to link there ad's to their web site. Additionally, the vendors would pay a small monthly service charge for the ability to put their web site information in sigs.
The largest vendors can pay more and get a space up at the top of the forum.
I think this would fairly split expenses between vendors and casual sellers.
My only caveat in this whole deal is you will see alot of the smaller items that people really need go away if you do not get the pricing correct.
I find it a bit unnerving that a big company, with plenty of experience running forums, needs advice or suggestions on how to make money doing it.
With that said, they should look at a tiered approach for both vendors and casual vistors.
Classifieds should be charged on an item sold basis. This is similar to what Audiogon does. www.audiogon.com. You want to list an item on that site, it is a flat $6. These are usually very expensive items though. For the RX7 club, I would suggest that a % fee is charged based on an asking price from the seller. Do the same to a lesser degree, maybe even a small flat fee for WTB ad's. This way the forum owners make money on the classified sections, and the sellers are free to pass this expense onto the buyer if they so wish. An ancillary benefit would be to rid the for sale section of unnecessary posts.
Vendors would be subject to the same fee for classified ads, but would pay a different monthly fee for the ability to link there ad's to their web site. Additionally, the vendors would pay a small monthly service charge for the ability to put their web site information in sigs.
The largest vendors can pay more and get a space up at the top of the forum.
I think this would fairly split expenses between vendors and casual sellers.
My only caveat in this whole deal is you will see alot of the smaller items that people really need go away if you do not get the pricing correct.
I understand that the reasoning behind not having answers till after the holidays, but why start enforcing the existing rules without already having a viable solution?
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What else can I or any other mod at this point say. We have asked that you let us compile information and come up with a proposal to submit to the new owners. We have asked that you come up with creative and alternative solutions to this issue so that we may look at many options. But instead the consensus is to just bash the topic into the ground.
We have stated that we will not be able to give answers until after the Holidays.Us Mods are also at the mercy of the new owners for information. They have been putting together some information and waiting for Ryan to turn over all of the information to them. They are a big company and own many other sites so we are not the only thing they are dealing with.
I am as well as other mods as frustrated as you guys are. I am waiting on information as well. There are plenty of members on here that I stayed in contact and followed up as much as I could with the information that I had. I did not tell them at the time that I would get back to them, then did not. I got back to them with all the answers that I had. I had given each member the contact information as I received it and made sure they had it. I am not in control nor is any other member of the mod team of what the advertising department does.
You guys want to help then continue to come up with ideas that we as a whole can submit to them to resolve the issue at hand. Because if you are not part of the solution, then you are part of the issue. That's all we are asking is give us some breathing room. Remember we are your fellow members and have given to this club and have a big stake in the longevity and well being of it.
Thank you.
We have stated that we will not be able to give answers until after the Holidays.Us Mods are also at the mercy of the new owners for information. They have been putting together some information and waiting for Ryan to turn over all of the information to them. They are a big company and own many other sites so we are not the only thing they are dealing with.
I am as well as other mods as frustrated as you guys are. I am waiting on information as well. There are plenty of members on here that I stayed in contact and followed up as much as I could with the information that I had. I did not tell them at the time that I would get back to them, then did not. I got back to them with all the answers that I had. I had given each member the contact information as I received it and made sure they had it. I am not in control nor is any other member of the mod team of what the advertising department does.
You guys want to help then continue to come up with ideas that we as a whole can submit to them to resolve the issue at hand. Because if you are not part of the solution, then you are part of the issue. That's all we are asking is give us some breathing room. Remember we are your fellow members and have given to this club and have a big stake in the longevity and well being of it.
Thank you.
I don't know of any other car forum that charges the members membership fees or charges them to post up ads. I may be completely out of the loop and other car forums may do it. I frequent the corvette forums, s2k, evo, lotus etc...
Please tell me what the problem is and I'll try to provide a solution. However if this forum needs more money then I'd suggest getting it in the traditional way or a better run rotary forum will take it's place.
I totally disagree with charging the common member or anyone not posting a sig to a business to use the classified section. I think I should be allowed to sell used parts there free of charge if I dont post up my signature. If I want to post my signature, which I do, I think businesses like myself should be charged a small monthly fee to post in the section. However, anyone not advertising a business should not have to pay a fee, that is just ridiculous in my book.
Small fees for businesses who want to post in the classifieds is completely acceptable in my book, but focus on the word SMALL since we are selling used parts. I think anyone with a banner at the top of the screen should be allowed to post in the classifieds as much as they want, but ONLY IF THE PARTS ARE USED or NEW MAZDA PARTS. No new performance or custom built parts, that I agree is completely unacceptable and should stay in the vendor sub sections.
Banning Charles7 and str8ryd from posting in there is uncalled for. These guys only sell parts off their personal vehicles.
Small fees for businesses who want to post in the classifieds is completely acceptable in my book, but focus on the word SMALL since we are selling used parts. I think anyone with a banner at the top of the screen should be allowed to post in the classifieds as much as they want, but ONLY IF THE PARTS ARE USED or NEW MAZDA PARTS. No new performance or custom built parts, that I agree is completely unacceptable and should stay in the vendor sub sections.
Banning Charles7 and str8ryd from posting in there is uncalled for. These guys only sell parts off their personal vehicles.
I totally disagree with charging the common member or anyone not posting a sig to a business to use the classified section. I think I should be allowed to sell used parts there free of charge if I dont post up my signature. If I want to post my signature, which I do, I think businesses like myself should be charged a small monthly fee to post in the section. However, anyone not advertising a business should not have to pay a fee, that is just ridiculous in my book.
Small fees for businesses who want to post in the classifieds is completely acceptable in my book, but focus on the word SMALL since we are selling used parts. I think anyone with a banner at the top of the screen should be allowed to post in the classifieds as much as they want, but ONLY IF THE PARTS ARE USED or NEW MAZDA PARTS. No new performance or custom built parts, that I agree is completely unacceptable and should stay in the vendor sub sections.
Banning Charles7 and str8ryd from posting in there is uncalled for. These guys only sell parts off their personal vehicles.
Small fees for businesses who want to post in the classifieds is completely acceptable in my book, but focus on the word SMALL since we are selling used parts. I think anyone with a banner at the top of the screen should be allowed to post in the classifieds as much as they want, but ONLY IF THE PARTS ARE USED or NEW MAZDA PARTS. No new performance or custom built parts, that I agree is completely unacceptable and should stay in the vendor sub sections.
Banning Charles7 and str8ryd from posting in there is uncalled for. These guys only sell parts off their personal vehicles.
believe it or not, I disagree completely with charging members as well. But it is obvious that this has become a for profit venture and not just a grassroots forum anymore. In my opinion it is best to spread a small expense across the board instead of ripping apart the forum.
Fritz, I am a member of several boards and you are correct none of the car forums seem to charge, but every single other one either asks for donations or charges for level of membership, and I'm not just talking about ****
Fritz, I am a member of several boards and you are correct none of the car forums seem to charge, but every single other one either asks for donations or charges for level of membership, and I'm not just talking about ****
if i get charged to be a part of the rotary community and charged to sell parts i know im probably going to move on to lesser forums with the same info and i know i wont be the only one.
since were on topic of vendors and what we can have and not have can i have my sig back it has no vendors no selling of two of the same parts or anything like that its just a forum for ohio people a answer would be appreciated.
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How many business' do you think are on this forum, 1? 5? 100?. Conversely, how many members are there on this forum? 105K by last count. If they go after vendors "only" you are going to be paying a majority of the expense, which means your parts will be more expensive and less attractive to respective buyers. If, on the other hand, they charge a seller or buyer 1% to sell or buy an item the costs will be better represented across the board. $3 to sell a $300 item is not out of line. $800 a month for a vendor will kill all but the big business'.
believe it or not, I disagree completely with charging members as well. But it is obvious that this has become a for profit venture and not just a grassroots forum anymore. In my opinion it is best to spread a small expense across the board instead of ripping apart the forum.
Fritz, I am a member of several boards and you are correct none of the car forums seem to charge, but every single other one either asks for donations or charges for level of membership, and I'm not just talking about ****
believe it or not, I disagree completely with charging members as well. But it is obvious that this has become a for profit venture and not just a grassroots forum anymore. In my opinion it is best to spread a small expense across the board instead of ripping apart the forum.
Fritz, I am a member of several boards and you are correct none of the car forums seem to charge, but every single other one either asks for donations or charges for level of membership, and I'm not just talking about ****
This is a grassroots forum which is what makes it so cool to begin with. Given the # of Rx7s this forum has some major traffic on it so getting donations from it's members shouldn't be a problem. Instead of asking me to stop posting for sale ads because I sell too much ask me for a donation or tell me about a cool t-shirt, key chain, etc... I AM NOT A VENDOR. I would love to make a career out of selling used parts and cars but unfortunately I have a family to feed along with a nasty track habbit.
Once you start thinking about profits and rules you'll see members moving on to other forums that care about the members not the money.
Whew. Just spent 1/2 hour reading this thread. Honestly this is sad, but not unpredictable.
Remember all of those "don't worry guys, nothing will change, it'll actually be BETTER!!" assurances when word of the purchase got out? Practically every corporate buyout of a popular mom-and-pop enterprise ends up the same way... the buyers squeeze every buck the can out of the faithful for a few years until they become disillusioned and move on, then it becomes a shell of it's former self. Remember Partstrader?? I visited a dept. store this XMass, and all of the BMX bikes they had were brand names that WERE high-end low-volume U.S. made racing bikes 15-20 years ago that were bought by corporate entities and whored out.... and now they're $150 Taiwan-made crap at Wal Mart. That's life.
I can't believe the mods are still working for free in this enterprise, but that's their personal call. For the rest of you, I don't know that I'd spend too much time and effort with sob stories about "the community" and what's "fair" in an effort to convince a holding company to try and make less short-term money on their investment.
What Internet Brands will probably never understand is, it's not that somebody like Fritz is making money off of their brand via free advertising, it's the fact that people like Fritz are here in the first place that CREATES the brand and gives it value. What value does RX7Club brand have other than the people on it that provide interest, advice, etc.??? You scare off the Fritz's or GoodFella's, or even JimLab's and others like them by squeezing pennies out of them, and there won't be any value for people to come here for. Most every one of the paid vendors have their own sites. I could go to them directly. Know what I mean?
Remember all of those "don't worry guys, nothing will change, it'll actually be BETTER!!" assurances when word of the purchase got out? Practically every corporate buyout of a popular mom-and-pop enterprise ends up the same way... the buyers squeeze every buck the can out of the faithful for a few years until they become disillusioned and move on, then it becomes a shell of it's former self. Remember Partstrader?? I visited a dept. store this XMass, and all of the BMX bikes they had were brand names that WERE high-end low-volume U.S. made racing bikes 15-20 years ago that were bought by corporate entities and whored out.... and now they're $150 Taiwan-made crap at Wal Mart. That's life.
I can't believe the mods are still working for free in this enterprise, but that's their personal call. For the rest of you, I don't know that I'd spend too much time and effort with sob stories about "the community" and what's "fair" in an effort to convince a holding company to try and make less short-term money on their investment.
What Internet Brands will probably never understand is, it's not that somebody like Fritz is making money off of their brand via free advertising, it's the fact that people like Fritz are here in the first place that CREATES the brand and gives it value. What value does RX7Club brand have other than the people on it that provide interest, advice, etc.??? You scare off the Fritz's or GoodFella's, or even JimLab's and others like them by squeezing pennies out of them, and there won't be any value for people to come here for. Most every one of the paid vendors have their own sites. I could go to them directly. Know what I mean?
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Whew. Just spent 1/2 hour reading this thread. Honestly this is sad, but not unpredictable.
Remember all of those "don't worry guys, nothing will change, it'll actually be BETTER!!" assurances when word of the purchase got out? Practically every corporate buyout of a popular mom-and-pop enterprise ends up the same way... the buyers squeeze every buck the can out of the faithful for a few years until they become disillusioned and move on, then it becomes a shell of it's former self. Remember Partstrader?? I visited a dept. store this XMass, and all of the BMX bikes they had were brand names that WERE high-end low-volume U.S. made racing bikes 15-20 years ago that were bought by corporate entities and whored out.... and now they're $150 Taiwan-made crap at Wal Mart. That's life.
I can't believe the mods are still working for free in this enterprise, but that's their personal call. For the rest of you, I don't know that I'd spend too much time and effort with sob stories about "the community" and what's "fair" in an effort to convince a holding company to try and make less short-term money on their investment.
Remember all of those "don't worry guys, nothing will change, it'll actually be BETTER!!" assurances when word of the purchase got out? Practically every corporate buyout of a popular mom-and-pop enterprise ends up the same way... the buyers squeeze every buck the can out of the faithful for a few years until they become disillusioned and move on, then it becomes a shell of it's former self. Remember Partstrader?? I visited a dept. store this XMass, and all of the BMX bikes they had were brand names that WERE high-end low-volume U.S. made racing bikes 15-20 years ago that were bought by corporate entities and whored out.... and now they're $150 Taiwan-made crap at Wal Mart. That's life.
I can't believe the mods are still working for free in this enterprise, but that's their personal call. For the rest of you, I don't know that I'd spend too much time and effort with sob stories about "the community" and what's "fair" in an effort to convince a holding company to try and make less short-term money on their investment.
As far as moderators working for free that's not surprising considering members are probably waiting in line to become mods so they can make the forum a better place.
I don't see much of a change around here from my perspective. My experience with the previous owner gave me the feeling that this was about dollars and cents to him as much as this latest corporate entity. I have only been around since 2004 so it may have been different in the early years but as long as I have been here this place appears to have been about money. I am a regular visitor to BMW, Fiat, and other car forums and this is the only place that I have seen constantly having threads about the cost of the forum etc. and the need for money. And I've never seen another forum have an online battle where one of the "owners" actually turns of the forum in an effort to control it. That battle was about money and not the betterment of the community. And the winner of that battle then sells this place for a profit! After taking over $60k in subscriptions to a rotary magazine that failed to deliver issues. (numbers are my estimates from threads I've read)
Unfortunately things are just more obvious when there is a corporate structure to blame. A corporation's only mandate is to provide returns to the shareholders. The way I see it they are struggling to make a lemon of a forum work when there have been no real systems in place previously. Or if they were in place they were not enforced.
I welcome the new ownership in the hopes that they will be more even handed with everyone.
But true power is held by the moderators. I say this because neither the previous owner nor the current can make a dime from this place without you all patrolling it for them. I never understood why moderator's don't do what is fair in each circumstance regardless of what a given rule is? Are you gonna get fired? If so who cares? Why would you cling to someone's rule of law without questioning its benefit to the community? What is the motivation for enforcing the master's rules when they are at the detriment of the community?
As far as suggestions, which is what this thread really needs:
1. I am for a tiered membership beginning at free access and moving up to subscriptions for added benefits. But the benefits have to be appealing to generate any revenue. Other forums I frequent are run succesfully this way.
2. Commercial ventures have to pay to play, which is a no brainer. But what is missing on the forum at the moment is a person to appropriately exercise the discretion to determine who is a commercial enterprise. It is true that the offering of services to members adds value to membership but that does not exempt you from paying fees. If you are here to profit you cease being an enthusiast and are a commercial venture. Someone has to determine who these people are. I would not advertise here if I were a business where someone was running a similar business and not paying any fees.
3. If a forum is run well with happy members they will eagerly buy forum merchandise sold at a profit.
4. Fees for classified listings. I am not in favour of this as the bartering of parts is a huge plus to the community. It would result in an increase in cost of parts or the reduction of listings for lower priced items. In addition to that I would expect some sort of secure transaction if I was paying a fee to buy or sell. I see a whole host of liability issues with this option. Not worth the pain IMHO.
Just my thoughts
Unfortunately things are just more obvious when there is a corporate structure to blame. A corporation's only mandate is to provide returns to the shareholders. The way I see it they are struggling to make a lemon of a forum work when there have been no real systems in place previously. Or if they were in place they were not enforced.
I welcome the new ownership in the hopes that they will be more even handed with everyone.
But true power is held by the moderators. I say this because neither the previous owner nor the current can make a dime from this place without you all patrolling it for them. I never understood why moderator's don't do what is fair in each circumstance regardless of what a given rule is? Are you gonna get fired? If so who cares? Why would you cling to someone's rule of law without questioning its benefit to the community? What is the motivation for enforcing the master's rules when they are at the detriment of the community?
As far as suggestions, which is what this thread really needs:
1. I am for a tiered membership beginning at free access and moving up to subscriptions for added benefits. But the benefits have to be appealing to generate any revenue. Other forums I frequent are run succesfully this way.
2. Commercial ventures have to pay to play, which is a no brainer. But what is missing on the forum at the moment is a person to appropriately exercise the discretion to determine who is a commercial enterprise. It is true that the offering of services to members adds value to membership but that does not exempt you from paying fees. If you are here to profit you cease being an enthusiast and are a commercial venture. Someone has to determine who these people are. I would not advertise here if I were a business where someone was running a similar business and not paying any fees.
3. If a forum is run well with happy members they will eagerly buy forum merchandise sold at a profit.
4. Fees for classified listings. I am not in favour of this as the bartering of parts is a huge plus to the community. It would result in an increase in cost of parts or the reduction of listings for lower priced items. In addition to that I would expect some sort of secure transaction if I was paying a fee to buy or sell. I see a whole host of liability issues with this option. Not worth the pain IMHO.
Just my thoughts
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...which leads back to another long standing thread/suggestion of mine that has been wholly ignored and blown off.
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?t=671906
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?t=671906
Lets try and keep this on the original topic at hand so we can resolve one matter at at time. :-)
Leaving the "Dealer" definition out at this time for simplicity purposes.
Lets look at some issues such as How much advertising is a "regular" member allowed before it qualifies it as excessive? Remember we are looking for a "Reasonable" amount.
Should it be weekly,monthly, quarterly, or perhaps yearly. Meaning that you are allowed X amount of threads per that defined time period. Threads could be a combination of all including FS/WTT/WTB, or they could just be FS threads.
Once that limit has been reached for the specific time frame then a member no longer is allowed to post anymore threads for the time period. Meaning if they have reached the alloted amount for (Just an example) for the month. That they cannot post anymore threads until the next month.
Remember this is just addressing a "Regular" member, not a Business/vendor/dealer.
We need to work through one issue at a time. :-)
Leaving the "Dealer" definition out at this time for simplicity purposes.
Lets look at some issues such as How much advertising is a "regular" member allowed before it qualifies it as excessive? Remember we are looking for a "Reasonable" amount.
Should it be weekly,monthly, quarterly, or perhaps yearly. Meaning that you are allowed X amount of threads per that defined time period. Threads could be a combination of all including FS/WTT/WTB, or they could just be FS threads.
Once that limit has been reached for the specific time frame then a member no longer is allowed to post anymore threads for the time period. Meaning if they have reached the alloted amount for (Just an example) for the month. That they cannot post anymore threads until the next month.
Remember this is just addressing a "Regular" member, not a Business/vendor/dealer.
We need to work through one issue at a time. :-)
If the forum was in jeopardy of being shut down due to lack of funds then why not bring this up and ask for donations? This would be a much more suitable action then pissing a bunch of long time members off by enforcing rules/ criteria that have never had a standard applied!
Once that limit has been reached for the specific time frame then a member no longer is allowed to post anymore threads for the time period. Meaning if they have reached the alloted amount for (Just an example) for the month. That they cannot post anymore threads until the next month.
Since when did the Rx7 Club become eBay?
If this was the case, there would be no FS posting going on right now in the Classifieds section. Can we all assume that if our signatures have been modified that we have been flagged and until one of the owners comes up with a viable solution, we are not allowed to sell anything?
Once that limit has been reached for the specific time frame then a member no longer is allowed to post anymore threads for the time period. Meaning if they have reached the alloted amount for (Just an example) for the month. That they cannot post anymore threads until the next month.
Remember this is just addressing a "Regular" member, not a Business/vendor/dealer.
You can't be serious. Can you ?
Indy,
I'll keep it as simple as I can. I am trying to throw ideas out to resolve this. I am addressing "Regular" members right now. Lets leave revenue, funds., etc out of the equation at this point. Also no changes have been made just enforcement of the current rules.
There is always a "What if" case. And I threw out a combination of WTS/WTT/FS as an example, not an absolute.
The signature is not being addressed with this, that is a whole different issue.
You are not comprehending what I am addressing at the moment. I am not asking for ideas or suggestions concerning anything else but what I have stated. I don't think that is unfair since the biggest concern is from regular members.
The dealer/vendor/business issue will be addressed. But cut me slack here. I am putting forth an effort to resolve these issues.
I'll keep it as simple as I can. I am trying to throw ideas out to resolve this. I am addressing "Regular" members right now. Lets leave revenue, funds., etc out of the equation at this point. Also no changes have been made just enforcement of the current rules.
There is always a "What if" case. And I threw out a combination of WTS/WTT/FS as an example, not an absolute.
The signature is not being addressed with this, that is a whole different issue.
You are not comprehending what I am addressing at the moment. I am not asking for ideas or suggestions concerning anything else but what I have stated. I don't think that is unfair since the biggest concern is from regular members.
The dealer/vendor/business issue will be addressed. But cut me slack here. I am putting forth an effort to resolve these issues.
Their has to be alternatives thrown out their to avoid completely shutting off or charging regular members a fee for advertising. This is one of them. By the current dealer rule it is basically stating that when you are classified as a Dealer that you cannot advertise in the classifieds. Which only leaves paying for advertising as a vendor.
Indy,
I'll keep it as simple as I can. I am trying to throw ideas out to resolve this. I am addressing "Regular" members right now. Lets leave revenue, funds., etc out of the equation at this point. Also no changes have been made just enforcement of the current rules.
There is always a "What if" case. And I threw out a combination of WTS/WTT/FS as an example, not an absolute.
The signature is not being addressed with this, that is a whole different issue.
You are not comprehending what I am addressing at the moment. I am not asking for ideas or suggestions concerning anything else but what I have stated. I don't think that is unfair since the biggest concern is from regular members.
The dealer/vendor/business issue will be addressed. But cut me slack here. I am putting forth an effort to resolve these issues.
I'll keep it as simple as I can. I am trying to throw ideas out to resolve this. I am addressing "Regular" members right now. Lets leave revenue, funds., etc out of the equation at this point. Also no changes have been made just enforcement of the current rules.
There is always a "What if" case. And I threw out a combination of WTS/WTT/FS as an example, not an absolute.
The signature is not being addressed with this, that is a whole different issue.
You are not comprehending what I am addressing at the moment. I am not asking for ideas or suggestions concerning anything else but what I have stated. I don't think that is unfair since the biggest concern is from regular members.
The dealer/vendor/business issue will be addressed. But cut me slack here. I am putting forth an effort to resolve these issues.
Honestly, you've got to think this is ridiculous too, right ?
Why are members being limited to how much they sell ? I'm not talking about under the table businesses posing as "regular members". I'm talking about the average joe who's got a garage full of parts taking up space that they want to peddle. Why on earth would you want to stop them from listing their parts ?
Honestly, you've got to think this is ridiculous too, right ?
Honestly, you've got to think this is ridiculous too, right ?
Let me ask you a question. How many threads in a year would you say that the average "Joe" would post?
Their has to be alternatives thrown out their to avoid completely shutting off or charging regular members a fee for advertising. This is one of them. By the current dealer rule it is basically stating that when you are classified as a Dealer that you cannot advertise in the classifieds. Which only leaves paying for advertising as a vendor.
Why don't you just create a seperate classifieds/parts subforum for vendors to peddle their junk ?
Give vendors/part sellers an option to either become a sponsor or pay $2.99/Month to list parts for sale.
If you would of read one of my other posts I threw this idea out for consideration. That is what I wanted for the sellers that needed unlimited selling.