So Kevin got banned for a week huh?
02-27-08, 08:09 PM
#301
If anyone wants to get away from the bitching, and pose actual solutions to the problem of Internet Brands, advertising/selling, and situations like those of Kevin, please come to this thread with your constructive criticism:
https://www.rx7club.com/lounge-192/constructive-criticism-regarding-dealer-vender-policies-734255/
https://www.rx7club.com/lounge-192/constructive-criticism-regarding-dealer-vender-policies-734255/
02-27-08, 08:09 PM
#302
I R SAD PANDA W/O BAW
If anyone wants to get away from the bitching, and pose actual solutions to the problem of Internet Brands, advertising/selling, and situations like those of Kevin, please come to this thread with your constructive criticism:
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=734255
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=734255
02-27-08, 08:10 PM
#303
WHY? you wanna get the whole lot of us banned? It's not worth it. The amount of information to be found here far outweighs the stupidity and bullshit you have to put up with on a daily basis. I'd be all for doing it but it's not like they can't BAN us or delete our SIGS.
Seems as flawed as the "let not get gas for one day so they suffer" foolishness.
Seems as flawed as the "let not get gas for one day so they suffer" foolishness.
02-27-08, 08:15 PM
#305
For a second lets take what rx7doctor said on page 5
Now lets count the number of vendors that have a private subforum
AeroFiber
A-Spec Tuning
Atkins Rotary
Auto RnD
Corksport
Defined Autoworks
FDNewbie Imports
RotaryShack
Rotary Performance - RX7.com
RX-7 Store
ShineAutoProject
Tuxedo Park Racing
Ok thats 12 vendors x 1000 a month. IBB is making at least 12000 a month. No way in hell this server cost 12000 a month to run.
AeroFiber
A-Spec Tuning
Atkins Rotary
Auto RnD
Corksport
Defined Autoworks
FDNewbie Imports
RotaryShack
Rotary Performance - RX7.com
RX-7 Store
ShineAutoProject
Tuxedo Park Racing
Ok thats 12 vendors x 1000 a month. IBB is making at least 12000 a month. No way in hell this server cost 12000 a month to run.
02-27-08, 08:17 PM
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Maybe someone will get all pissed and hack the site like another rotary site I know of, and all the info will be lost.... Then there would be no reason to visit it....
I personally haven't been back to the other site since it went down..
All in all this site is run by a big coorperation now.. Big Corps are evil money machines.. IB doesn't care about anything other then making this forum super profitable. The mods are just doing what they are supposed to do... But people bitching isn't going to do anything.. 100 pissed off members = nothing to them... There are so many other members that visit/click through that those of us that don't like where the forum is going (or those that choose to leave) isn't going to affect them at all.
I personally haven't been back to the other site since it went down..
All in all this site is run by a big coorperation now.. Big Corps are evil money machines.. IB doesn't care about anything other then making this forum super profitable. The mods are just doing what they are supposed to do... But people bitching isn't going to do anything.. 100 pissed off members = nothing to them... There are so many other members that visit/click through that those of us that don't like where the forum is going (or those that choose to leave) isn't going to affect them at all.
Note you'll never find a member that's registered before February 2001.
I watched as post by post, section by section this board got torn apart. Deleted because of a back door security hole in Ultimate Bulletin Board...
02-27-08, 08:18 PM
#307
For a second lets take what rx7doctor said on page 5
Now lets count the number of vendors that have a private subforum
AeroFiber
A-Spec Tuning
Atkins Rotary
Auto RnD
Corksport
Defined Autoworks
FDNewbie Imports
RotaryShack
Rotary Performance - RX7.com
RX-7 Store
ShineAutoProject
Tuxedo Park Racing
Ok thats 12 vendors x 1000 a month. IBB is making at least 12000 a month. No way in hell this server cost 12000 a month to run.
Now lets count the number of vendors that have a private subforum
AeroFiber
A-Spec Tuning
Atkins Rotary
Auto RnD
Corksport
Defined Autoworks
FDNewbie Imports
RotaryShack
Rotary Performance - RX7.com
RX-7 Store
ShineAutoProject
Tuxedo Park Racing
Ok thats 12 vendors x 1000 a month. IBB is making at least 12000 a month. No way in hell this server cost 12000 a month to run.
RotaryBuddha, would you be so kind as to post this in the constructive criticism thread? https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=734255
02-27-08, 08:27 PM
#309
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
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ok why it's okay for you to ***** your personal "business" in your signature on the forum, but not everyone else.
and as far as your signiture this is your idea of following the rules
02-27-08, 08:36 PM
#310
Mazdamark.com......I dont see that in the vendors section..
https://www.rx7club.com/members/icemark-5271/
ok why it's okay for you to ***** your personal "business" in your signature on the forum, but not everyone else.
and as far as your signiture this is your idea of following the rules
ok why it's okay for you to ***** your personal "business" in your signature on the forum, but not everyone else.
and as far as your signiture this is your idea of following the rules
02-27-08, 08:39 PM
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WHY? you wanna get the whole lot of us banned? It's not worth it. The amount of information to be found here far outweighs the stupidity and bullshit you have to put up with on a daily basis. I'd be all for doing it but it's not like they can't BAN us or delete our SIGS.
Seems as flawed as the "let not get gas for one day so they suffer" foolishness.
Seems as flawed as the "let not get gas for one day so they suffer" foolishness.
02-27-08, 08:46 PM
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well all i can say is im pretty sure this forum wont be going anywhere anytime soon. its just got such a amazing wealth of information and reliable servers to handle the traffic that its going to be immensely difficult to mirror without a company like IB to support unless members are willing to donate and someway to get at least a resemblance of the information here. the majority will stay bc the majority are not the sellers who are being locked from selling. we might lose valuable members like RR but info they've already posted will be here to stay and regular members shall continue to profit.
02-27-08, 08:54 PM
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well all i can say is im pretty sure this forum wont be going anywhere anytime soon. its just got such a amazing wealth of information and reliable servers to handle the traffic that its going to be immensely difficult to mirror without a company like IB to support unless members are willing to donate and someway to get at least a resemblance of the information here. the majority will stay bc the majority are not the sellers who are being locked from selling. we might lose valuable members like RR but info they've already posted will be here to stay and regular members shall continue to profit.
I work for a HUGE worldwide company part of my job is maintaing the HVAC that feeds the server rooms, if i were to loose power for 15 minutes.. the servers would fry...
By by info.. who would rebuild this site if that happened??? IB? how much do they know about Rx7's??
02-27-08, 08:55 PM
#316
well, based on previous issues. A local guy was asked to remove his AOL address because it was a business. Another local guy had the same sig (to help out the other member) and HE was asked to remove it.
I know what can happen to me if I "step out of line" and it's not fun. The "LINE" differs from mod to mod so it's all about the capriciousness and immaturity of the person but, much like the VENDOR RULE, it's very vague . That's why there is no consistency anywhere but, at the same time, that keeps EVERYONE "in line" since nobody knows what can and/or can't be done.
As I said earlier, the info and response-time of this forum is worth the bullshit.
So, While it's a good sign of solidarity for Kevin we're just IPs that can be blocked and whose sigs can be deleted.
I know what can happen to me if I "step out of line" and it's not fun. The "LINE" differs from mod to mod so it's all about the capriciousness and immaturity of the person but, much like the VENDOR RULE, it's very vague . That's why there is no consistency anywhere but, at the same time, that keeps EVERYONE "in line" since nobody knows what can and/or can't be done.
As I said earlier, the info and response-time of this forum is worth the bullshit.
So, While it's a good sign of solidarity for Kevin we're just IPs that can be blocked and whose sigs can be deleted.
02-27-08, 09:04 PM
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02-27-08, 09:08 PM
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THe info posted here is FREE revenue for the IB staff. Do WE get paid for the writeups that draw people to the site??? NO. DO I ASK FOR $ for my contributions?? NO..
We are unpaid teachers in a school about Rx-7's.
They use the info that the PUBLIC posts up here to generate click though revenue...
Of course the policy needs to change. Everyone who posts in the tech sections adds literature to the site, each thread has the ability to show up on google searches, ASk searches whatever, drawing people in... You post DONKEY ***** in the lounge and it may show up on a search...
So what if Kevin Wants to sell me a rear seat for $50.. It Helped me out and I am sure that he made $.10 after labor to remove, ship, gas to the post office..
It's crap.
We are unpaid teachers in a school about Rx-7's.
They use the info that the PUBLIC posts up here to generate click though revenue...
Of course the policy needs to change. Everyone who posts in the tech sections adds literature to the site, each thread has the ability to show up on google searches, ASk searches whatever, drawing people in... You post DONKEY ***** in the lounge and it may show up on a search...
So what if Kevin Wants to sell me a rear seat for $50.. It Helped me out and I am sure that he made $.10 after labor to remove, ship, gas to the post office..
It's crap.
02-27-08, 09:10 PM
#321
THe info posted here is FREE revenue for the IB staff. Do WE get paid for the writeups that draw people to the site??? NO. DO I ASK FOR $ for my contributions?? NO..
We are unpaid teachers in a school about Rx-7's.
They use the info that the PUBLIC posts up here to generate click though revenue...
Of course the policy needs to change. Everyone who posts in the tech sections adds literature to the site, each thread has the ability to show up on google searches, ASk searches whatever, drawing people in... You post DONKEY ***** in the lounge and it may show up on a search...
So what if Kevin Wants to sell me a rear seat for $50.. It Helped me out and I am sure that he made $.10 after labor to remove, ship, gas to the post office..
It's crap.
We are unpaid teachers in a school about Rx-7's.
They use the info that the PUBLIC posts up here to generate click though revenue...
Of course the policy needs to change. Everyone who posts in the tech sections adds literature to the site, each thread has the ability to show up on google searches, ASk searches whatever, drawing people in... You post DONKEY ***** in the lounge and it may show up on a search...
So what if Kevin Wants to sell me a rear seat for $50.. It Helped me out and I am sure that he made $.10 after labor to remove, ship, gas to the post office..
It's crap.
02-27-08, 09:11 PM
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Wait, what if I can prove that I only break even on the products I list? Does that mean I have to pay advertising fee's even though I'm essentially operating as a non-profit? For instance, if someone was a shop that normally didn't list here, but wanted to empty inventory at cost + shipping, they would have to sign their soul over to essentially give away product because they list 2 or more?
It would be difficult for anyone (especially someone in buysiness) to try and liquidate any sizeable amount of inventory without being noticed. Remember we are humans not machines we can read and understand context clues.
Your not going to be able to work in some loophole, because there isn't one. We review each issue on a case by case basis (much thanks to rx7doctor for that legwork) and when needed confer on what action to take, although some have much clearer paths than others.
02-27-08, 09:13 PM
#323
THe info posted here is FREE revenue for the IB staff. Do WE get paid for the writeups that draw people to the site??? NO. DO I ASK FOR $ for my contributions?? NO..
We are unpaid teachers in a school about Rx-7's.
They use the info that the PUBLIC posts up here to generate click though revenue...
Of course the policy needs to change. Everyone who posts in the tech sections adds literature to the site, each thread has the ability to show up on google searches, ASk searches whatever, drawing people in... You post DONKEY ***** in the lounge and it may show up on a search...
So what if Kevin Wants to sell me a rear seat for $50.. It Helped me out and I am sure that he made $.10 after labor to remove, ship, gas to the post office..
It's crap.
We are unpaid teachers in a school about Rx-7's.
They use the info that the PUBLIC posts up here to generate click though revenue...
Of course the policy needs to change. Everyone who posts in the tech sections adds literature to the site, each thread has the ability to show up on google searches, ASk searches whatever, drawing people in... You post DONKEY ***** in the lounge and it may show up on a search...
So what if Kevin Wants to sell me a rear seat for $50.. It Helped me out and I am sure that he made $.10 after labor to remove, ship, gas to the post office..
It's crap.
WINNNNN!
02-27-08, 09:13 PM
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I made a writeup the other day about modernizing s4 tails.. So far 4,226 views that is 4226 clicks to MY THREAD Adsense pays per click via an unknown ratio.. My BLOG makes about $5 per 1000 views.. So that would be about $20 they made off my Thread... hMmmm..
02-27-08, 09:16 PM
#325
Carter 2.0
RX Doctor. Kevin IS you fellow member, by standing by idle you have abandoned him.
while I am posting. I like how Kevin was bad for posting under other names.
Why would a guy with a GOOD name like Kevin's forgo that good will and post a for sale add with an unknown name?
This makes no sense at all. So Kevin did this first? or did IB threaten him so he went to drastic measures.
The latter is the truth.
You guys know this is happening over at Corvette Forums as well. another IB owned forum. They are jumping ship like crazy.