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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by rotormind
people act real tough on the internet. to prove my point, some of u guys should read the thread below. i started the thread and was new at the time but i dont think i deserved some of the comments i recieve

https://www.rx7club.com/automotive-news-lounge-22/13b-vs-4-cylinder-703280/
Actually, I think you deserve it.
How old are you?

Your TYPING is the only way we can communicate through this type of medium.
You don't use capitals.
You don't use proper sentence structure.
You misspell a lot...which brings up the worst...
...you type in TM-speak.
Your typing makes you look like a 5th grader.

I have a suggestion: use proper English.
I'd bet you'd get a little more respect.


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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 08:57 PM
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i know how to write a sentence correctly but i think for the most part it is not needed because everyone knows what im trying to say. do u write correctly when ur texting? im sure u dont cuz no one does. well thats a little of what i do.

now for u thinking i deserve what was said in those post, i have no respect for u rather u care or not. i have held plenty of conversations with people and had no complaints about how i type. these people were more focused on my point so they did not care if i used capitals after every sentence or if my sentence were proper ect... if i was writing an essay, it would be a different story. besides, most of the ignorant comments that were said had nothing to do with the way i type. some just didnt care about the topic so they figured they should just critisize. now i bet a million dollars that if i was talking about a turbo rx7, i would have got more attention. the first comment was: we dont care.

If you have any respect for yourself, i bet you wouldn't say some of the comments that was said in that thread. Being as ignorant as them would only make you look stupid. Saying i deserve it makes you look worst. You can critisize how i type, for i know that it isnt correct. But you will miss my whole point just so you can look smarter than me. Waisting your time argueing about how i type makes you look dumb because i know you understand what im saying.
Old Dec 2, 2007 | 09:13 PM
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nope....it's just Ted being Ted.....I've learned to enjoy some of that humor. He's lashed out at me before too. Just don't take it too personally and it's all gravy.
Old Dec 2, 2007 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by rotormind
i know how to write a sentence correctly but i think for the most part it is not needed because everyone knows what im trying to say. do u write correctly when ur texting? im sure u dont cuz no one does. well thats a little of what i do.
This is exactly the kind of attitude that makes you look:
1) lazy, and / or
2) you don't give a ****.
Whatever the case, it looks bad on you.

IMNSHO...

Texting is a different medium than posting in an online forum.
Rules don't apply to both evenly.
IMNSHO, you're mangling the English langauge, and that reflects poorly on your attitude.
I'd be surprised you're over 21.

So how old are you?

I give you credit that you are trying to type a little better in The Lounge thread...


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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 10:50 PM
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Some people can care less about how the words show up on there screen. I find it ridiculous that you think you can judge my attitude by the way i type. It would be alot easier to judge someone by the comment they make. If you met me, you will know that it is very easy to get along with me. Iam far from an ******* because i have respect for myself and others. You should never judge someone by the way the words are written on your screen. Judge them by there comments.
Old Dec 3, 2007 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by rotormind
i was looking for someone who already done it. not the answer
In a way, you found your answer. Very few people have actually accomplished 200RWHP on a NA 13B using only a streetport, so thus very few topics/posts exist on the subject from those who have done it.

Originally Posted by RETed
Actually, I think you deserve it.
How old are you?

<snip>

I have a suggestion: use proper English.
I'd bet you'd get a little more respect.
-Ted
Very few people deserve to be treated poorly. If that thread had been reported (or I had otherwise seen it) the situation would have been taken care of. While I agree completely that IM speak, poor spelling, lack of sentence structure and capitalization make a lot of people less eager to treat the original poster with respect, that's still no excuse for much of the behaviour shown in that thread.
Old Dec 3, 2007 | 10:43 AM
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Ive found 4 cars on here that done it so far. I think the main reason their isn't alot of people that has done it is, mostly everyone thinks it cant be done or its too hard to accomplish. Everyone ends up telling you to just go turbo, so no one really tries. Look how inexpensive this setup is. This car makes 210rwhp on a streetport.

http://www.yawpower.com/sep2004.html
Old Dec 3, 2007 | 11:00 AM
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It's not your avg setup, he's using a 4-port block number 1. How many NA owners have a turbo and a NA block? Two, he's not using stock ignition. Three, he has a fuel computer. To make my point, it's not your run of the mill setup. If you did that to a TII block with a turbo, your power potential is much higher with the simple addition of a boost controller.

The thing everyone saying is, dollar for dollar, turbo is the better way to go. Which, I wholeheartedly agree with, I just like sticking to NA.
Old Dec 3, 2007 | 11:48 AM
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Oh god. Why do everyone keep comparing n/a to turbo. Everyone in the world knows that a turbo is going to make alot more power. This is why i want an n/a section. I cant even want to stay n/a on this forum even if it was my decision. At this piont I only want to compete with all motor civics. Thats it. Im not looking for the kind of power a turbo can put out. If i had a turbo block lying around, i'd still do this setup. Besides, that setup is very simple, hes using the stock 12a distributor and a cheap fuel only standalone. The hp wouldn't be too different if i was to use the s5 block with the turbo2 intake.
Old Dec 3, 2007 | 11:53 AM
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If you had a turbo II block lying around. I mean, it's just more money to be spent getting these extra parts.

You're looking at 180 whp using stock ECU, stock manifolds, etc. Anything else after that will start costing money.
Old Dec 3, 2007 | 12:10 PM
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Im not going to be using the stock ecu. i will be using the stock turbo2 manifold because i already have one. If i get atlease 195rwhp, ill be happy
Old Dec 3, 2007 | 01:37 PM
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hope u do get that power then.
Old Dec 3, 2007 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by rotormind
Ive found 4 cars on here that done it so far. I think the main reason their isn't alot of people that has done it is, mostly everyone thinks it cant be done or its too hard to accomplish. Everyone ends up telling you to just go turbo, so no one really tries. Look how inexpensive this setup is. This car makes 210rwhp on a streetport.

http://www.yawpower.com/sep2004.html
It's ironic that the link doesn't work.


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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
Very few people deserve to be treated poorly. If that thread had been reported (or I had otherwise seen it) the situation would have been taken care of. While I agree completely that IM speak, poor spelling, lack of sentence structure and capitalization make a lot of people less eager to treat the original poster with respect, that's still no excuse for much of the behaviour shown in that thread.
Isolate that thread, and you might be correct.

You should take a look at the NA-doesn't-get-any-respect thread in The Lounge, and read his replies.
You might have a different view after that.


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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by rotormind
Oh god. Why do everyone keep comparing n/a to turbo. Everyone in the world knows that a turbo is going to make alot more power. This is why i want an n/a section. I cant even want to stay n/a on this forum even if it was my decision. At this piont I only want to compete with all motor civics. Thats it. Im not looking for the kind of power a turbo can put out. If i had a turbo block lying around, i'd still do this setup. Besides, that setup is very simple, hes using the stock 12a distributor and a cheap fuel only standalone. The hp wouldn't be too different if i was to use the s5 block with the turbo2 intake.
When I want N/A stuff, i go to the rotary performance section. I'm an N/A guy until the day I die, BUT my current project is a turbo. Go figure. If you really feel that N/A is what you want to do, then do it, and like me get fanatical. Who cars if there's a separate subsection?

Originally Posted by RETed
No.


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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 08:46 PM
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So I'm pretty sure that more people want the turbo and n/a threads seperated into their own catagories. I have this opinion based on the replies in this thread.
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 12:14 AM
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Maybe a solution is instead of seperating FC sections into N/A and Turbo sections is to specifically add a N/A performance (which would include any type of N/A performance 12a, 13b, etc) under the Rotary Performance group.

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Originally Posted by DrKilljoy
Maybe a solution is instead of seperating FC sections into N/A and Turbo sections is to specifically add a N/A performance (which would include any type of N/A performance 12a, 13b, etc) under the Rotary Performance group.

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Better idea. +1.
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by 89rxgtu
So I'm pretty sure that more people want the turbo and n/a threads seperated into their own catagories.
I doubt more than a handful of the regular 2nd Gen section users would want anything like that. There are over 115,000 threads in the 2nd Gen section. Are you volunteering to separate them? What are you going to do with the 90-95,000 threads that aren't engine specific? Is it logical to have two sections full of the same questions?

I have this opinion based on the replies in this thread.
If you don't count the replies from those who can't articulate themselves beyond typing "+1", you're left with a small minority with a huge chip on their shoulder. There seems to be very few people posting intelligent rebuttal to the many reasons posted for not doing it.
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 06:22 AM
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NZ why are you and Ted so concerned w/ a slight change in the forum? If it doesnt work out so be it. I say lets just get it done already!
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 09:37 AM
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Was thinking about this idea last night, and came to the conclusion that I'm wrong. An "NA only" 2nd gen subforum would have absolutely no negative effect on the forum as a whole. Since nearly every 2nd gen topic is valid for both cars, virtually everything posted to the "NA only" forum would be immediately moved to the general 2nd gen tech forum. The result would be only a few new topics a week in the "NA only" subsection and thus it becomes irrelevant.

An "NA only" forum under Rotary Performance is a better idea.
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 10:37 AM
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NZ why are you and Ted so concerned w/ a slight change in the forum? If it doesnt work out so be it. I say lets just get it done already!
because the mods are the ones who have to move each thread to the proper section.
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
Was thinking about this idea last night, and came to the conclusion that I'm wrong. An "NA only" 2nd gen subforum would have absolutely no negative effect on the forum as a whole. Since nearly every 2nd gen topic is valid for both cars, virtually everything posted to the "NA only" forum would be immediately moved to the general 2nd gen tech forum. The result would be only a few new topics a week in the "NA only" subsection and thus it becomes irrelevant.

An "NA only" forum under Rotary Performance is a better idea.
sounds like a solution. it should be done.
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 01:35 PM
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Yes to a general N/A performance section.

:smiley_12 :smiley_12 :smiley_12 :smiley_12 :smiley_12 :smiley_12

Old Dec 5, 2007 | 03:26 AM
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NZ why are you and Ted so concerned w/ a slight change in the forum?
I honestly don't care if the forum gets changed or not because it's not my time that would be wasted. It would be the admins whose time is wasted doing the work to implement it (unpaid). It would be the moderators whose time is wasted moving threads to where they should be (Aaron's dead right on that). And it would be the people who post in the new section whose time is wasted when they get a fraction of the responses they would in the main section. Some people thought the S-AFC section was a good idea too...

Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
Since nearly every 2nd gen topic is valid for both cars, virtually everything posted to the "NA only" forum would be immediately moved to the general 2nd gen tech forum. The result would be only a few new topics a week in the "NA only" subsection and thus it becomes irrelevant.
I bet you'd be proven right right.



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