"I still stand by what I say. Most NA owners are gay and don't give two *****. "

apparently you don't want people to listen to you anyways. there is absolutely nothing to lose from starting a n/a forum, i dont read every post about v8 swaps, and i'm sure some users don't read the "should i buy this car" thread. but each respective community has it's users with their own info. i love my n/a,(though, yes, i may boost it eventually.) and right now my main focus is on reliability and autoX. lets try and keep this thread headed towards a possible outcome and stop arguing which 7's are better. ( i had so much more to say...just forgot)

 

This is such pointless suggestion. Why don't we keep everything the way it is so we don't have to search in another area or re cover the same stupid arguments that go on here all the time. If you wanna see two sides bitching about header combinations and associated gains use the damn search button. If you need me to tell you what sub forums are to be specified to find such arguments please look under 2nd gen specific or rotary performance. It's not hard. The only good reason for making one is to corral all the retards who ask the same damn question in the same place. Plus who really has any good rotary N/A knowledge here except a select few. I sure as hell don't but from using the magic "search" button I can find out what works and what doesn't according to the forum members that chime in and then draw my own conclusions using my own knowledge of tuning.

 

Yeah genieus from your standpoint we should have just one huge forum called rx7club! and would have to rely on the search button to find everything.

Pretty much noone has a valid reason why not... the closest is it might not generate much money but i hope thats what this forum's not about.

These are not reasons why not...

irrelavent topic's
gayness..or poorness...
wanting to turbo anyway
lack of knoleage..
guttlessness

Anyone else see a juvenile pattern here?

 

I agree that having an NA section would be nice. The only bad thing is, we pretty much already have one. Its called the 1st gen specific forum. I would have to assume that most things NA would be fairly common between 1st and 2nd gen cars. Any time you have a specific question about your S4 or S5 car could easily be asked or searched on the 2nd gen forum. If it works on a 12A or GSLSE 13B, then it will work on your S4 or S5 motor as well.

 

Yeah maybe there is a way we can join them somehow?

 

There are quite a few differences between 1st and 2nd gen cars such as electronics problems (not associated with engine), suspension, and other misc things. I am assuming you are talking about merging 2nd and 1st gen into 1 forum.

 

See I didn't know that.

And yes there may not be many people that have alot of knowledge about N/A's but that the point, let them do a few write ups and share their knowlege with the rest of us.

I'd appreciate a N/A section.

 

I really think this would be useless....there's only so many things you can do to "beef up" an n/a...and they've already been discussed 43987123 times.

 

To expand a bit on IanS's point. ANY, and I mean ANY mod done to a turbo car that doesn't directly have to do with the turbo (turbo, wastegate intercooler ect.) can be aplied to and NA.

Who gives a **** if the person who gives you susspension or weight reduction tips owns an NA or a T2. It's all the same.

The only core difference (aside from the turbo) for FC's is that the NA is a six port and the turbo is a four port. Many hard core NA guys run T2 four ports (with NA rotors) anyway as they can be more extensivley street ported. But both four and six ports can be bridge ported to equal effect. blah blah blah.

To come full circle on this, a beefy NA section would be a place for people who cant tell the difference between mods for an NA and turbo car, and would like a place to discuss air filters and spare tire removal methods.

I am strictly an NA guy myself and have from most of your standards a fairly beefy ported six port GSL-SE. And I see no need for this section.

 

You know i have to agree with you on that one...

Im leaning toward's a NA section in general..not a beefy NA section.

 

And that applies to turbo's as well only its been duscussed about ten fold more..

 

It amazes me that we can get a section for aux injection but can't get a section for NA performance. Between alot of the 20b NA's that people are working and all the other NA projects seems like we would have enough topics for the section.

 

Agreed.


Porting
standalone
iginition
cai
exhaust
pineapple racing sleeves
maybe some nitrous but with that you can' call it (all motor)

Ok that about somes it up. There may be other little things here and there but honestly there is a limmit to what you can do with an n/a motor and more than likely it's already been done. Auxilary injection uses a combined effort from your ignition system, standalone, tuning and other differant supportive devices just with that one mod. Not only that but it's, comparitively speaking, a new thing in the rotary world.

 

Ok but you have to admit that aplies to turbo cars just as much right? and there is also a limit with what you can do with a turbo car. Im wondering though does anyone have something against the NA rx-7? Becuase im still not hearing good reason's just the same "there is only so much u can do turbo is better anyway excuse"

By the way in a week or so my car's going to be putting out about 210hp to the wheel's. at about 2200lbs

 

Care to explain?

 

My thread is in the general rotary tech section but noone goes in there..thinking about moving it to the second gen section.

 

Yes to a general N/A performance section.

:smiley_12 :smiley_12 :smiley_12 :smiley_12 :smiley_12 :smiley_12

 

well here is my theory, the rotary 1/4 mile times keep getting faster; so with that in mind can you really say that there is a limmit with what you can do with turbo rotaries? Now answer that question honestly and get back to me

 

didnt crispeed just run a 10 in his n/a?


oh and too hondahater,yes there is a limit but thats not what we were talking about.its what it takes to get there which is fuel delivery,timing,yadda,yadda..the same old stuff which will never change,and it applies to non turbo car's too.

i have a t2 i could work on right now but since my car is already in the high 13's on stock port's,im having a hellava fun time. And yes i have people who will vouch for that. just last weekend i beat a new 6.0 gto with a 6 speed,and a honda s2000 not sure of the year. hell my best friend will get on here and tell you my na is faster than his twin turbo z. im not bragging just trying to instill some excitment into people who own a NA. These cars i feel are over looked and disregarded as being nothing...hey i love all rx-7's and ill defend my na. peace

 

I think there should definitely be a main N/A thread. Or possibly a n/a thread in each generation of the rx-7.

 

but first gens and second gen were the only n/a car availible the only third gen i know of being n/a is the RE Ameiya racecar. but its still not a bad idea

 

+1 for n/a section!

 

I will keep an eye on this thread for the next couple of weeks.... if you can rustle up some support and get a good amount of members to voice their support (in this thread) I will recommend it to the other admins.

 

yeah, no need for an n/a section for the FDs.

All USDM SA/FBs are N/A and there are like 0 JDM SA/FBs on here.

Your idea is good for FCs, though I don't see any reason why the second gen section shouldn't be split...

 

+1 for a n/a section.

Unfortunatly I think it may be to late. Since every post for FCs are in one section, making a n/a section may be usless for searching unless you transfered all n/a threads into the n/a section