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If you're planning on installing the LSU 4.9s to the exhaust manifold/turbine housing, they're probably not going to last long. Just sayin...
Already figured it out.
Look at the first picture. Sensors will be mounted on the turbine housing there and HeaderShield is going to be supplying the necessary insulation/reflective properties that I need to keep the Hex within 650C.
Already figured it out.
Look at the first picture. Sensors will be mounted on the turbine housing there and HeaderShield is going to be supplying the necessary insulation/reflective properties that I need to keep the Hex within 650C.
So after ALL of that about the custom made IWG thing, you're going to go to a gleaseman big runner with external gates just like me? Man if you'd just listen to me up front you'd save yourself a fuckload of headache.
I WOULD NOT bother putting individual O2s in the turbo manifold runners but not over worries of burning them out and having to replace them like Fartknocker was worried about. You aren't going to gain anything by looking at the AFR between runners, but rather just adding a dumbed down reference that you should be taking from EGT anyways. There is nothing you can infer from a wideband on each runner that you cant infer from EGT. EMAP is nice, but really only a setup indicator and not so much an active tuning parameter. Redundancy does have a purpose, however staring at 6 different readings from 3 different type sensors that all say the same thing is really just having more **** to look at for the sake of looking at more ****.
That being said, whats the story on the EMAP canister? I haven't seen that one before...I like the welded look.
So after ALL of that about the custom made IWG thing, you're going to go to a gleaseman big runner with external gates just like me? Man if you'd just listen to me up front you'd save yourself a fuckload of headache.
I WOULD NOT bother putting individual O2s in the turbo manifold runners but not over worries of burning them out and having to replace them like Fartknocker was worried about. You aren't going to gain anything by looking at the AFR between runners, but rather just adding a dumbed down reference that you should be taking from EGT anyways. There is nothing you can infer from a wideband on each runner that you cant infer from EGT. EMAP is nice, but really only a setup indicator and not so much an active tuning parameter. Redundancy does have a purpose, however staring at 6 different readings from 3 different type sensors that all say the same thing is really just having more **** to look at for the sake of looking at more ****.
That being said, whats the story on the EMAP canister? I haven't seen that one before...I like the welded look.
Skeese
I'm really interested in doing the individual o2 readings due to the way that the Throttle Mass Flow calculations and overall fueling corrections are handled on the Emtron. Remember, I'm using a big *** 90mm DBW, so beyond mapping out APP vs. TPS, there's a way to calculate exactly what that throttle body will flow at various TPS settings via a Pre-TB MAP sensor and a Plenum MAP sensor. The idea here is to eliminate the downside of running a huge single TB...and not have lag/jumpiness associated with it.
I'm not just throwing money (that I don't really have) at a problem that doesn't exist. I'm approaching things cautiously with a bit of engineering and redundancy. If any sensor fails, the car goes into a limp mode and immediately shows me what sensor it is based on it's voltage or functioning issue.
This is the T1 Race / Xenocron Tuning EMAP Kit, which is actually bitchin' and small too. Glad it's not just me, because that Full Function aluminum is ugly as **** to me. This matches my engine bay and will remain unpainted...
Oh ****, good god I'm glad we got you here to keep us in the loop on this secret knowledge. I don't know what we'd do without you
Bahaha. Andy of HeaderShield and I are doing some trick **** for the manifold/turbine when all is said and done. He wants me to gather as much data as possible to help him better his products, so being that I'm throwing all these sensors in there for MY usage, it's two birds with one stone. Great to work with companies like that who not only know their ****, but continually try to improve.
So, I decided on a LONG Runner 321ss 2.157" ID, 2.375" OD (Big Tube!) Exhaust Manifold...
The Thing is, this is going on my FB and my fitment doesn't get anywhere close to where John's is for his turbo kit...
Check out this old pic:
Now, imagine placing the EFR9174 w/ 1.45 A/R Turbine Housing right where the Vibrant Air Filter is...
Blammo, now you have a REALLY long runner design.
Might as well subscribe to this trainwreck....J/k, j/k
I mean, you wouldn't be too far off. Hahaha. Once I get the fabrication finalized, the progress should be quite a bit faster with updates at least twice a week. Right now I'm selling off parts/clearing the garage and working constantly to fund fab.
I'm watching. Love the V mount setup. Just looking forward to seeing what you're going to do with the new manifold/turbine setup. Should've just kept it simple from the start!
I'm watching. Love the V mount setup. Just looking forward to seeing what you're going to do with the new manifold/turbine setup. Should've just kept it simple from the start!
It was never anything supposed to be simple. That would have been an LS3 E-Rod Swap w/ T56 Magnum.
The whole point of this build was to push personal boundaries and continue development on a car that I saw was about to take off in value. 6yrs later, I'm right, it has.
The build, in it's entirety is complex. Gran Touring is comfort and zero compromise luxury and speed.
Oh well, I'm in a financial lull, which is what's impeding this build. Car comes home once I can afford the final phase of fabrication.
I met his staff at SEMA last year and have connected with John on a few things. Glad to finally have a piece of the puzzle. It's a shame funding as been so slow recently.
I found your thread about a month ago, from posts in the "what did you do to your FB" thread, I think, and just finished catching up. Ambitious as hell project! You've got some pretty neat stuff going on in that little FB.
Just wanted to let you know I appreciate reading about the project, and your efforts. Way more ambitious than me - I'm just stuffing a GSL-SE into my SA, because I'm tired of carburetors. Guess I should probably make a thread here about it...
I found your thread about a month ago, from posts in the "what did you do to your FB" thread, I think, and just finished catching up. Ambitious as hell project! You've got some pretty neat stuff going on in that little FB.
Just wanted to let you know I appreciate reading about the project, and your efforts. Way more ambitious than me - I'm just stuffing a GSL-SE into my SA, because I'm tired of carburetors. Guess I should probably make a thread here about it...
Kevin, that made my day. Thanks buddy!
Yes! Make a thread! Show us your progress and don't be afraid to dream big, put everything into it, and be patient with fruition.
As for updates, the car is prepped for fabrication now. About to pull the 'old' turbo setup off and place it to make the runner length as LONG as possible. Maybe not John Choe's FD's 18"+ length, but likely around 12-14". If I can make the runner longer than just a straight shot, I will...
Tons of stuff up for sale if anyone wants first dibs to my 'old' setup. It'll be a reliable, ultra-responsive 450-500whp with an EFR8374 or EFR9174 supercore.
Finances are tighter than ever. This year has crushed me with bad luck. Just trying to keep things moving and I appreciate all the support over social media.
05-27-18, 07:50 PM
Glad it's not just me, because that Full Function aluminum is ugly as **** to me. This matches my engine bay and will remain unpainted...
