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Old 04-11-08, 08:33 PM
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Just go do a manual swap
Old 04-11-08, 10:58 PM
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Didn't Chuck from Rotary Extreme attempt this before? How have you succeeded where he failed?

Here is his thread for reference.
https://www.rx7club.com/power-fc-forum-47/automatic-owner-using-power-fc-you-need-read-30574/
Old 04-12-08, 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Fd3s4e
Just go do a manual swap

fork over the money and I'll think about it....
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Automatics have always been limited by the ECU, now that we will be able to install EMS systems allowing for higher power , the auto should be able to be quicker than the manual. The fact that it does not loose boost between shifts is huge. The next limiting factor will be the durability of the torque converter and trans, but it is not like the manual trans and clutches are indestructible.
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We installed and tested the harness on a 94 this weekend, and it performed perfectly. We will start accepting orders as soon as we create a webpage for the product. This should happen later today. The initial orders will take a few days to assemble and get shipped out.
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Very Nice! Great job guys!...too bad I swapped the tranny already :P. So question, with this parallel setup would you be able to tune for larger injectors and the like correct? I might have to pickup an Automatic FD again
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Originally Posted by ranchan02
Very Nice! Great job guys!...too bad I swapped the tranny already :P. So question, with this parallel setup would you be able to tune for larger injectors and the like correct? I might have to pickup an Automatic FD again
Yes, the PFC is in control of everything but the auto trans. The stock ECU does not even have outputs to the injectors with the adapter harness. So no problem upgrading injectors.
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I"ve been waiting a long time for this. count me in. can you get any deals on the pfc units. I would like a package deal.? also will the ac and smog pump work just like stock without any extra mods. I want a plug and play unit as far as wiring goes. shoot me a PM on pricing

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Old 04-15-08, 05:48 AM
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We do not sell Power FC's or any other engine management systems. The PFC is capable of running a fully stock vehicle with exception to the EGR & AWS, as outlined in the APexi installation manual.

We are holding off on the release for just a bit longer, there are a few aftermarket parts I want to install on the test vehicle to see how the stock ecu reacts.
Old 04-15-08, 08:12 AM
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Congrats! I've always thought highly of Banzai.
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keep us posted.. Thanks for the research

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Old 04-15-08, 12:34 PM
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yeah there's a lot of rumor that the auto tranny will only hold up to 325 hp. It'd be curious to see if this plug helps that mark or not.
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they say 325-350 hp is max on these transmissions. but thats with synthetic oil, extra oil cooler, and the trans being in top condition. I dont think going over 325 hp is a good idea with this trans unless you do a level 10 upgrade.

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Who is the "they" that say this? My guess is 5-speed owners, I happen to be one also and would not even speculate on the durability of the auto trans or torque converter.

Has anyone built a high HP automatic and tested the limitation of these components?
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keep us posted. I hope you will release it soon.

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Do not worry, I have not forgotten about this project. We are just swamped at the shop right now with engine rebuilds. Once I get a free moment I will finish my testing.

If someone local with an auto wants to stop by the shop things will go much quicker, currently I can only test on the 94 when it fits into my customer's scedule.

What I want to do is work out any bugs that may pop up. For instance how does the GM 3 bar MAP sensor effect things. If I figure out most configurations prior to releasing, it will save me hours of tech emails later.
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Originally Posted by Banzai-Racing
Who is the "they" that say this? My guess is 5-speed owners, I happen to be one also and would not even speculate on the durability of the auto trans or torque converter.

Has anyone built a high HP automatic and tested the limitation of these components?
Yes. I wouldn't exactly say highpower either. I grenaded the tranny with a PFC, SMIC, intake, exhaust in about an hour. I upgraded the trans with level 10 components and then ran it behind an rx6 single turbo for many miles and it held fine.

I'm glad you made this product. If anyone cares to search I thought of the idea of a pass through harness many years ago but didn't have the tech savvy to get it done. I'm glad that there are still some innovators out there making new products. Good job. Too bad I already swapped.
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Thanks again Banzai Racing for the R&D and showing the auto guys a little love .we get put down so much here it will be nice to have the upgrades and keep up with the man trans cars. I can see some new respect for the auto's coming if this works out. this kit with a pfc, tunning, ang a level-10 upgraded trans will give the man trans guys a run for their money. I can see a new phase in the future of man trans guys swapping to auto's LOL, LOL...... its just a joke don't flame me please!

Jeff

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The FD is a quick car naturally, but I have always been amazed at how many people seem to just endlessly promote this when it really is NOT the strong suit of the car, but more of a by-product of light weight and high hp. So you get all these manual guys bagging on the car for SLIGHTLY less responsiveness in drag racing situations.
Now with Banzai's soon-to-be-available product, auto owners will have all the benefits (and certain advantages!) of the 5-speed guys. As others have said, combine this with a Level 10 or equivalently modded tranny and it will be a new era.

Good work, Banzai!
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Ummm - sell me one now and I PROMISE not to whine or ask for a refund if there are any problems?

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this sounds like a great idea. a lot of people have been waiting for something like this to come around...
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Originally Posted by chaosseven
Ummm - sell me one now and I PROMISE not to whine or ask for a refund if there are any problems?

That is just not how we operate. When testing is complete, you will be one of the people that gets an email letting you know that it is available.
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"they" are, as you guess, manual transmission folks. There's just not enough done in the auto tranny arena for anything more than that.

I would like to see someone with a ford C4 transmission fab it up to work with the FD. It's pretty much an indestructable auto transmission that has cheap replacement parts.... It can't be that much work.. they're both ford companies! :p


if only i had a garage to work in...
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Originally Posted by grimple1
I would like to see someone with a ford C4 transmission fab it up to work with the FD.
It has been done in the FC for sure....don't know if anyone has in an FD. Take a look in the drag section and I am sure you will find some posts from those better versed in auto trannies.

For me the harness is the perfect option. I am not as concerned with the hold feature as I am with the more important issues we need fixed due to the loss of the tranny control.
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Originally Posted by Banzai-Racing
That is just not how we operate. When testing is complete, you will be one of the people that gets an email letting you know that it is available.
Oh yeah - I got that email from you a couple weeks ago.

The email said you were releasing it the same day and then you came back on here and said you changed your mind.

I felt violated and you hurt my feelings.

I'm sensitive like that.

I need a $50 off coupon or something. I'll get over it.


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