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Old 12-27-07, 02:06 AM
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yeah i hear what your saying.but i don't seem to catch a break from anybody here. thanks for the kinds words and good looking out.
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Old 12-27-07, 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by teddyrx2
Yes we did mess his car up it was an accident and we admit to it. And we are going to pay. Stay on the subject, roller is talking about the fact of us being a shop/ business and im just trying to figure what he is trying to say or get at? Since this incident we have stopped all projects for all forum members because we just don't want to be framed for bad practice, or taking advantage of people which is a little to late but that's okay. I understand everyone's hard feelings and harsh words, I'am okay with all the bad feed back, this is actually a learing lesson for me and my brother.

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Can you please find some where in this thread about me saying that we wouldn't pay?

you also need to understand that in my experience, illegitimate business and ripping people off go hand in hand. For one thing, the consumer has no protection, no recourse against an illegitimate business when things go wrong. And too many people are getting ripped off in here over the last year. WAY too many.

Is there seriously any reason why two months later you are no closer to having him paid back?

By the way, as for the last question you asked james, let's get real here. You and I both know you have stated on this forum on more than one occasion that you were refusing to get money or parts back to the customer. Remember that underbody tray?? A piece of friggin plastic, and you instantly refused to get it back to the customer until enough people in here leaned on you with their complaints. And in this case, you have gone on at length about how you were "just trying to help your brother with his debt" even though this was a 12:31 problem, not your brother's problem. Come on, man--you are operating an uninsured truck and trailer to haul the cars around!?!? How can anything good come from that?

I still dont' think that the work that we have been doing for other people here on the forum is Illegal.
Answer a couple questions...

1--did you do work in California, on people's cars, in exchange for money?

YES

2--at the time you performed this work, did you hold a current business license that authorized you to perform work in that capacity?

NO

That means it was illegal, champ. Plain and simple. The licenses, permits, and tax filings must be done before you open for business. You have been open this whole time, but without any of the required licenses. For example, look at this link:

http://www.slocounty.ca.gov/tax/faqs...esslicense.htm

This is a county in CA....this is what they have to say about their issue licenses:

What happens if I operate without a County Business License?

EACH DAYa business is operated without a County Business License, or is operated in violation of the provisions of the County Ordinance, shall constitute a separate offense. EACH OFFENSE is punishable by up to six (6) months in County Jail or a fine of up to $500.
See that? There is no magic amount you must hit before these are required. You need them before you open for business! It doesnt matter at this point if you think it is illegal or not--the law is what determines that and the law disagrees completely with your expert assessment.
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Old 12-27-07, 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by teddyrx2
yeah i hear what your saying.but i don't seem to catch a break from anybody here. thanks for the kinds words and good looking out.
now you need to stop telling stories again. You cant catch a break?? Dude, in one of your negative feedback threads, you stepped up and said you would take responsibility. And I gave you props on the spot for it.

https://www.rx7club.com/showpost.php...2&postcount=68

Teddy, I dont know you, but I do give you props for being honest enough to take responsibility. Good to see that, we dont see very much of it around these parts. Here's hoping that you guys can come to a resolution on this one.
THEN, you found his underbelly tray, this was my response:

https://www.rx7club.com/showpost.php...0&postcount=85

teddy, thanks for being a stand-up guy.
I personally gave you credit. Several others did too. Then yet another customer came along right afterwards with similar complaints. This isnt about you not getting a break--its about you getting props from us and blowing it all over again with a ****-poor attitude and ignorance. You earned back respect only to **** it away again, and you did this all by yourself so lets not pin it on "no one will give me a break around here."
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Old 12-27-07, 02:26 AM
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I thank you for that, i steped up last time and i will step again im just going to do my thing come this friday.

and start the process of paying him back on his word for the parts i do not have receipts for.

and that is for the

super charger bracket

super charger fitting

interior cleaning.

After that the only thing left to pay is the powder coating, and the body damage that we will both try to hustle for and get the money some way some how.

and thank you for clearing that up, i really appriciate that
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Old 12-27-07, 06:47 PM
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Hey marcelo I tried to call you earlier today but your phone went straight to your voice mail so I left message.

My brother will be making a money order in the amount of $300.00. We would like to know when and where my brother can meet you tomorrow. He is free and available after 12 noon. Please give us call thanks
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Old 12-27-07, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by rx7roller02
We all have a part in crap like this because everyone who has spent money on their 7's deserves to have a safe transaction from a real business, when the person claims they are a real business.


And you dont see a problem with that, simply because he worked on your car before? Here's a clue--a legit business would have resolved these issues months ago with these customers. There is no excuse at all for the way they treat their paying customers, so stop trying to give them one by being more worried about me than the problem.
i just asked you a simple question , you could of said the mods gave me a green light to deal with this situation , that would have been enough for me , no need to get froggy as a person not knowing what your relation to this was i would say you were starting and stiring **** up now that i know what your part is i agree with what your doing
as a shop owner and race team owner for the last 10years YES i agree this situation should have been resolved months ago
you say that i dont have a clue or see a problem with this because he worked on my car , here is a clue for you i own and race a pro car in the speed world challenge , i am also a r&d mechanic for mazda of norh america's motorsports program better known as MAZDASPEED , i have enough fabricators to do anything that i need on my car. the reason i let teddy work on my car was for exposure so he can get his name out there and get credability , something that they have failed at miserebly you see i was the one who introduce him to rotaries when he was about 16 years old and i worked out of my garage in san diego , i had a great guy trust me and let me work on his car and that opened the doors for me into the pro ranks and thats why i am where i am today , so please dont say that i dont care about what they have done because that is far from the truth , i hope everything gets resolved , i know teddy is gonna do whats right
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Old 12-27-07, 07:14 PM
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just called again straight to voice mail marcelo hit us up
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Old 12-27-07, 08:27 PM
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Its 6:27 still no phone call from Marcelo. Will try calling in another half hour.
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Old 12-27-07, 09:55 PM
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Just called him about 5 min. ago and still no answer I don't think he has service or the phone is off. Trying to make payment On friday the 28th in person.
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Old 12-27-07, 09:59 PM
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Hey marcelo if your in this thread can you please call my brother I just left you another message on your phone about 5 min's ago and sent you a pm a few seconds ago.
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Old 12-27-07, 10:10 PM
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i just called my room mate and apparently i left my phone at my place in riverside last night , wasnt expecting a call from you so sorry about that. Im not trying to make any money off of you teddy (as u have accused me of). I do need to have everything paid for except for the body work at this time. Meaning i will not accept the full 300, the difference will be somewhere between $50 to $10.

i WILL NOT accept $10- $50 (depending on the price of the powder coatign and sc parts) as a payment for the body work. I appreciate the efforrt but id like to SEPERATE the damage doen to my car from everything else. accepting any money at this point might jeapordize the legal actions im goin to take, ive give you plenty of chances and time to pay. i will not accept $10-$50 on an invoice of $600+

my room mate will be calling me back to give me ur number and ill call u in a few mins.
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Old 12-27-07, 10:17 PM
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PM replied, as i said ill call chris in a few mins, but bottom line i wont take the full $300. I will only accept moneys to pay for sc fitting/bracket, interior cleaning and powdercoating. Unless you are willing to pay a significant amount on the body work then i will not accept a payment of a few bucks on something over 600
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yeah i know im just trying to make payment. The $300 to my understanding is for the interior cleaning, and super charge parts. and then when you find the price for the powder coating i will send payment for that as well

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Old 12-27-07, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by teddyrx2
yeah i know im just trying to make payment. The $300 to my understanding was for the interior cleaning, and super charge parts.
but like i said its not goin to be exaclty $300 and im not trying to make any money off you, its goin to be very close to that $300. You can either wait for recipets which will be almost that amount and pay that or you can send the $300 but know that in no way covers anything for the bodywork. like i said im nt trying to make any money off of you,, i know money is tight and whatnot.


so you can either wait for my reciepts (mailing out after i pick them up tomorrow) or send the $300 but understanding it in no way covers anythign for the bodywork.
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yup got you. $300 is what your going to get for the super charge parts and the interior cleaning that my brother wants to leave with you in person tomorrow, and when you find the price for the powder coating i will send that out as well.

But since my brother will be meeting up with you anyway in person you can just hand the receipts to him in person instead of mailing them out.
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Originally Posted by teddyrx2
yup got you. $300 is what your going to get for the super charge parts and the interior cleaning that my brother wants to leave with you in person tomorrow, and when you find the price for the powder coating i will send that out as well.

But since my brother will be meeting up with you anyway in person you can just hand the receipts to him in person instead of mailing them out.
ill call him right after i post this, and im sorry i duno what i was thinking when i wrote that PM, the $300 will be more than enough for those lil things AND the powdercoating! so dont worry about paying for that later...if u have the 300 tomorrowthat will be enough for everything EXCEPT the bodywork. ill write you a check for the difference as it will be less than 300
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just an update:

-i will be meeting chris today at around 2pm and accepting $300 to pay for the powdercoating, supercharger fitting/bracket and interior cleaning. ive informed teddy that i will not know until later today of the actual amount for these but that they will be under $300 and was told to keep the difference for my troubles and that the difference in no way is a payment for the body work


i will have 2 of the 3 receipts when chris arrives, still working on the last one (email confirmation) as i said the company is in the process of goin out of business and then there back in business...back and forth nonsense AND they upgraded the brackets on the kit itself so its even harder to get a price for. SHOULD have it for chris today but its been horrible trying to get that done.

my lawyer will be out of town until 01/10/08, if i dont receive any payment by then, well then its out of my hands.
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PAYMENT was made last night to marcelo in person for powder coating, super charger fitting, super charger hose, and interior cleaning
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Looking for Marcelo Looking to make another payment this friday or saturday please call me or my brother. I would like to setup a meet up time and location to make another payment in a large chunk toward the body damage. thanks

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Originally Posted by teddyrx2
PAYMENT was made last night to marcelo in person for powder coating, super charger fitting, super charger hose, and interior cleaning
this payment was made in person by my brother with a money order just so everyone knows
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I just got done reading through this thread. In Teddy's defense he admits that he f'd up and is willing to pay back the money and is in the thread the whole time not trying to run away or hide. It's obvious that he was strapped for money and needed some time to pay back the customer. A blind man could see this! It also is very tough to make a living in the auto business and it looks like he is just trying to get things started and some experience so give the guy a fricken break. Not all of use have 100,000 dollars to start a business. Hopefully he learned from his mistakes and will move on.
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just got a text lettign me know that another payment will be dropped off or mailed out this weekend. just waiting to see what our schedules look like.

almost there guys.
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No mailing im not dealing with that I doing hand drops off's with money orders in person so i know the payment was made and received.
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Originally Posted by ultimatejay
I just got done reading through this thread. In Teddy's defense he admits that he f'd up and is willing to pay back the money and is in the thread the whole time not trying to run away or hide. It's obvious that he was strapped for money and needed some time to pay back the customer. A blind man could see this! It also is very tough to make a living in the auto business and it looks like he is just trying to get things started and some experience so give the guy a fricken break. Not all of use have 100,000 dollars to start a business. Hopefully he learned from his mistakes and will move on.
Hey man thanks for the kind words, but i only post on this thread to keep people up todate and let people know that things are in motion and what has been done and what has been paid is all.

We already made one payment, this weekend another payment, and in another two weeks the last and final payment.

Even through all this, and getting dragged throught he mud i have no hard feelings with anyone, or the comments that were made towards me. I always try my damn best to meet and exceed and situation or problem to the best of my ability. It's just sometime's i get in over my head and things start to fall apart and i say things or do things i don't mean.

Marcelo is a really good person, even with this bad guy thread im still not made with him, I understand his point of view and know his situation and how money is hard money is right now. Neither one of us have much of it, but still the way i handled the situation should have never taken this long.
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Hey marcelo change of plans were going on friday to drop off the money not saturday. Thought it would be better to get the money there a day in advance for yah. Please let your mother know we will be heading in that direction if you anticipate that you will not be there to get the money yourself in your hands and she will.

Also a contract will be made saying that x amount of money will be dropped off toward payment of the car damage and that in another two weeks the final and last payment will be made and all money owed to you will have been paid in full and no outstanding debts are owed after that.
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