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Old Apr 7, 2014 | 08:57 AM
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We put the sensor on the return line. Works great.
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Old Apr 7, 2014 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by sleeper7
We put the sensor on the return line. Works great.
Same here!
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Old Apr 7, 2014 | 09:11 AM
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So who has the gm flex fuel part number?

And just out of curiosity. I've got a decent question. Let's say the closest e85 station is done 65 miles away. Can I run pump 91 and e85 in the same tank? And tin the sensor so that at anything less than 50% it'll rub low boost pressure at around 12lbs and anything above say 70% it'll go up yo 20lbs?
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Old Apr 7, 2014 | 09:32 AM
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depends on ECU.

With the haltech sport you have all kinds of adjustments. Boost and timing compensations. When set up correctly you have options to run a lower boost at 50% ethanol and higher boost at 85% ethanol. Easy.

Something to think about is a 4 port boost solenoid with a very low pressure spring in the waste gate. Say a 6psi spring. Then you can have the boost curve at 10% ethanol at 6 psi boost for a really safe tune. Then at 85% ethanol you can run 40psi boost.

Then throw in a speed sensor.
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Old Apr 7, 2014 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by mannykiller
So who has the gm flex fuel part number?

And just out of curiosity. I've got a decent question. Let's say the closest e85 station is done 65 miles away. Can I run pump 91 and e85 in the same tank? And tin the sensor so that at anything less than 50% it'll rub low boost pressure at around 12lbs and anything above say 70% it'll go up yo 20lbs?
GM Ethanol sensor part info:
https://www.rx7club.com/alternative-.../#post11448625

As far as the switching, it's going to depend on your ECU and the what integrated capabilities it has.
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Old Apr 7, 2014 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by sleeper7
We put the sensor on the return line. Works great.
No return line on that car, its a closed loop feedback setup that varies pump speed.
When guys go big big power they change the entire system out and use a traditional return line set up
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Old Apr 7, 2014 | 11:15 AM
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cool.

How's the fuel pressure response under boost?
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Old Apr 7, 2014 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by sleeper7
cool.

How's the fuel pressure response under boost?
ive never logged it, its basically stock right now

feels- well it feels stock!
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Old Jul 5, 2014 | 08:40 AM
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I love e-85 I tune a car and made 586 at 24 psi of boost on a BorgWarner s372 with a very safe tune.
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Old Jul 5, 2014 | 03:20 PM
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I love e-85 I tune a car and made 586 at 24 psi of boost on a BorgWarner s372 with a very safe tune.
I cant wait to get tuned next week on e85. Iv been driving for a month on my break in tune for the new motor, really sucks.
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Old Jul 5, 2014 | 10:37 PM
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Hey guys, ordered this stuff from Amazon. Not sure if I got the right stuff, benol premix.. hitting the dyno this week so I need to know if I can use this stuff add pre mix on e85 or if I need to get other stuff.

E85 Experience-forumrunner_20140705_203657.jpg
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Old Jul 5, 2014 | 11:22 PM
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^^ you bought the right stuff.
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Old Jul 5, 2014 | 11:27 PM
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^^ you bought the right stuff.
You using this stuff as well?
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Old Jul 7, 2014 | 08:28 PM
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yes 1.5oz per gallon.
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Old Jul 7, 2014 | 11:14 PM
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yes 1.5oz per gallon.
Nice. I've heard mixed usage... 1oz per....1.5.oz per..
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Old Jul 8, 2014 | 06:14 AM
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I use 3 oz per gallon
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Old Jul 8, 2014 | 08:02 AM
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I use 3 oz per gallon
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Old Jul 11, 2014 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by sleeper7
I use 3 oz per gallon
Does it smoke?
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Old Jul 11, 2014 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mannykiller
Hey guys, ordered this stuff from Amazon. Not sure if I got the right stuff, benol premix.. hitting the dyno this week so I need to know if I can use this stuff add pre mix on e85 or if I need to get other stuff.

Attachment 537145
That is the only oil I use for e85 1 ounce to a gallon. Been running 22psi on my drag car for 2 years. Anymore is not necessary in my opinion

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Old Jul 11, 2014 | 05:54 PM
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speaking of AFR, I always thought E85 made max power way lower than what most of you are talking about.



is this not right?
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Old Jul 11, 2014 | 09:47 PM
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Was able to get some tuning in. First session with e85. Ended short due to bossy control problems but man...this stuff is magic
E85 Experience-forumrunner_20140711_194536.jpg
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Old Jul 11, 2014 | 10:52 PM
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399whp at 29psi is that right?
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Old Jul 11, 2014 | 11:04 PM
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Yezzir!
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Old Jul 12, 2014 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by mannykiller
Was able to get some tuning in. First session with e85. Ended short due to bossy control problems but man...this stuff is magic
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Dyno sheet looks like you didn't push any higher than 5k RPM ?!?!

Not familiar with your build, but are you planning on tuning out to 8k?

Very impressive results!
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Old Jul 12, 2014 | 09:47 AM
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"Dyno sheet looks like you didn't push any higher than 5k RPM ?!?!"

he had a boost control problem and it spiked to 29 so they aborted the run...

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