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Old May 11, 2005 | 11:36 PM
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Where's this plug go?

I removed my ECU randomly and found that this plug doesn't have anywhere to go. Can anyone let me know if it should just be hanging there, or where it goes??
thanks a bunch

-Mike

oh by the way, the black box on the bottom is the Control Unit that attaches to the back of the ECU....the black connector is on the harness connected to the Control Unit.

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Old May 11, 2005 | 11:48 PM
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That's what i ****** want to know!!! wooooh weird **** man! Only I wanted to know cuz i just did a tranny swap.

Although I do know it's for the water thermosensor I'm guessing you can plug a temp gauge into it either that or it's for the water thermo fan switch.

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Old May 11, 2005 | 11:52 PM
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i think it should hook to that black box in the pic
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Old May 11, 2005 | 11:57 PM
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nope only one plug goes to that.
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Old May 12, 2005 | 02:33 AM
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if im correct if you ground it your fans will turn on
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Old May 12, 2005 | 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by mini-x
if im correct if you ground it your fans will turn on
You are 100% correct.

That is the famous spade connector that you wire to a switch to ground.

Flip the switch on & the fans will turn on.

Keep the switch on for more than 2 minutes prior to shutdown & over 30 seconds after shutdown & the fans will continue to run (with the key out) for 10 minutes.
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Old May 12, 2005 | 07:30 AM
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You are correct on the fan turn on wire. A little more help for me please . My 94 should run the fans for 10 min after key off and now that does not happen . I replaced the little black box and the the water temp sensors .I have not checked the relays . Any ideas?
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Old May 12, 2005 | 10:14 AM
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That connector is part of Mazda's fan recall harness. The harness patches in between a blue and a white connector coming from the ECU harness, and includes the black box fan control module and that black test wire.

The fan recall also included a harness that goes between the fan relays and the wiring harness plugging in to them. That harness re-does 3 of the fan relays so they can operate with the ignition switch off.

The way the fan control module works is all by the water themoswitch at the back of the wtaer pump housing. Stock, the thermoswitch trips at 108 deg. C. This kicks the fans on. The fan control module monitors this circuit - if the temps stay at over 108 for more than 2 minutes while the car is on, it will trigger the fans to stay on for 10 minutes after the car is shut off.

This thermoswitch is the same one that many commonly replace with the FC thermoswitch, which kicks on at a much more reasonable 95 deg. C.

That black wire is simply to test the circuit. If you ground the wire for 2 minutes, it does the same thing as if the thermoswitch was tripped by high coolant temps. This way you can test if the fan control module is working properly.

If you get an HKS Fan Controller (http://www.clubrx.org/default.asp?id...ntent=41&mnu=3) you can tap one of the controller's fan outputs to that same black wire. You can then control the temp that the fan kicks on, and if it's running for more than 2 minutes you'll automatically get the 10 minute cooldown.

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Old May 12, 2005 | 11:02 AM
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Wow invaluable info thanks so much Dale!
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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 12:38 PM
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does anyone have a picture of this grounded??? i know its a stupid question, but i'd like to see it and be 100% positive i understand what i'm doing before i try something new on my baby

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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 05:25 AM
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let me rephrase that... can anyone tell me where i can find a convenient grounding point for this little doo-dad? does it have to go to a ground wire for some of the in cabin electronics or can it just bolt to the frame/body somewhere?
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 06:01 AM
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You can probably tap it with the other ECU ground that you have behind that panel.
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by pugg57
let me rephrase that... can anyone tell me where i can find a convenient grounding point for this little doo-dad? does it have to go to a ground wire for some of the in cabin electronics or can it just bolt to the frame/body somewhere?

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...hlight=fan+mod
http://rx7.voodoobox.net/ (look under "How to")
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 08:17 AM
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Does anybody have the Mazda recall fan mod wiring diagram?
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 12:13 PM
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OMG just ground it, anywhere. I put my switch in the center console in between the fog lights and defroster. Used one of the mounting screws as the ground.
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 01:48 PM
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thanks. i wasn't sure about the grounding crap... sorry that i'm paranoid. why can't i find this sh*t when i search? i spent three days looking around for it... didn't even post anything for THREE DAYS! (which is a bunch for me) because i was trying to find this.
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 04:47 PM
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wrong thread lol.....good luck with the ground switch man
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 12:13 PM
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so... what gauge wire did you guys use for the switch? i'm thinking about like 24 but i haven't tested the Amperage yet either... i read through the scuderrriannanaini whatever page and didn't see it. i'm sure that since its controlling a relay, its probably only like mA we're talking about, but just trying to avoid a fire in my car... again with my paranoia
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 06:24 PM
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Um i used like 18 gauge speaker wire for the power and just like little 8 ga probly, wire for the ground.
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by pugg57
so... what gauge wire did you guys use for the switch? i'm thinking about like 24 ....

16 or 14 ga. should be plenty and easy to work with.
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 06:37 AM
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thanks guys... sorry to keep asking stupid questions... but hey, at least i didn't start another thread right?
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 06:00 PM
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Good info here, thanks for posting Dale. My EMS controls the fans, and I had been wanting to get rid of that black box and harness. Ripped them out today and everything works as expected, no more fans running when the engine has turned off.

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