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Old Sep 27, 2003 | 08:23 AM
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The 8.8 feels great. We waited til midnite last night to run it at the track but it was rained out once we got there. However, we did do some testing yesterday afternoon after we turned the boost up. I wasn't able to get ahold of any ET Streets so I just had my Nitto 555R's on. I found out that in order to lauch the car decently I had to dropped the clutch at 7200 rpm after warming the tires up of course. I've got my shocks on the softest setting so the rear end of my car squats down very low when I launch it. No clunking,wheel hop, one wheel spin.........just gos..... and if the tires spin it keeps going straight unlike my old stock irs which wanted to jerk to the left or right. Anyways, it just squats and gos. My only issue is the front end feels extremely light when I do this but I guess that's something I need to get used to.

I'll have timeslips on tues.
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Old Sep 27, 2003 | 09:44 AM
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wednesday morning it is then. i have to see *something*!! hell just from this thread alone you better have post some impressive numbers from the weight of this magic FD. all the hype and the best that has been stated is "it feels great".... there has been a lot of projects out of you that you hype up that have gone nowhere. i am not saying the 8.8 was a *completely* bad idea, but i do want to see some results, unlike the project BSC had with builting BNR *type* twins that was just let slide through the cracks with no(maybe little, i dont remember exactly) mention of what happened there....


i also remeber a post like this:
Originally posted by Resource 6/03
Basically 3 years ago I wrecked my FD and decided to part out the car. I sold too many parts at one time to keep track of and kept all the emails/transactions in my work email at World Com. Well, I got laid off and lost all of the emails and contact info from the people that I owed parts to. I make numerous posts pleading with everyone to contact me if they had parts coming to them from me and I even had friends make the same threads when I was in the hospital. I was also dealing with serious medical problems at the time so I wasn't mentally there. After some time and lots of drama from people that don't understand I've done my best to take care of the people that didn't get their used parts. It's easy to mislabel someone on the forum without meeting them in person and I can understand that but, it's been 3 years and I can sincerely say that I've done everything to make things right. I've done my best to help people out as much as possible but hopefully by reading the posts of my customers/friends that actually know me, everyone can finally realize that I'm a decent person.

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but recently there has not been a mention of BSC out of you since word on the net has it you were fired for stealing from Bi-State... would you care to clarify that situation? or should we just skip that part?
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Old Sep 27, 2003 | 10:49 AM
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rynberg good point
I was just going along with the weight of the car but your post made me believe it's bs.

he could save maybe 50 pounds by upgrading to full exhaust, 75 by removing twins (and all their ****) and going to single although his single is HUGE, (airpump, ps a/c, abs I'll give 100 pounds), maybe saved 30 pounds with racing seats, 50 with rear end swap, gained at least 50 with heavier rims and kit.

Ok so it lost 225 pounds from 2800 that's 2575 where is the other 200 coming from? Did you remove the motor? Stop being a homosexual (not that there's anything wrong with that.) There is nothing else on the car that weighs anything near 200 that you can take out where did you pull that weight from it's wrong???
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Old Sep 27, 2003 | 02:43 PM
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I bet your 7 handles real well now after that mod! Talk about killing the best aspect of the car...ohh well, driving hard/fast isn't for everybody, have fun at the strip with all the other yahoos trying to prove something.

Sorry, I just REALLY don't like any "racing" where the driver is hardly involved.
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Old Sep 27, 2003 | 04:23 PM
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its that wing guys...it doesnt cause downforce...it causes lift...that car ****** levitates!!

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yeah..cant wait for timeslips and those sixty foot times.

truly


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Old Sep 29, 2003 | 07:07 AM
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bump. i want to see a response.
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Old Sep 29, 2003 | 07:55 AM
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I want to see it weighed next to a stock FD.
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Old Sep 29, 2003 | 10:04 AM
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I really don't think Mazda COULD do any more stripping to the car and actually keep people interested in buying it.

Ther only other things they could have removed at the factory (Any stayed within safety specs) is **** like sound proofing... Not really much else they could have lightened up, except for the removal of al the comfort devices as have already been stated...

They could have saved a a good 30 lbs by getting fixed headlights and they could have eliminated the power antenna..thats all I can think of.
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Old Sep 29, 2003 | 10:07 AM
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The lights had to be popup because they are too low to be within safety specs otherwise.
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Old Sep 29, 2003 | 10:08 AM
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The lights had to be popup because they are too low to be within safety specs otherwise.
what a bout a 300Pigs? they were just as low I think.
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Old Sep 29, 2003 | 10:19 AM
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any way it's not 30 pounds maybe around 17ish

zero did you find out about the mazda reman warranty policy!? I'm never wrong snooks brain can't losE!!

where is this guy with proof of what he took off to get the car so light? Why does he even post if he's gonna do that?
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Old Sep 29, 2003 | 12:12 PM
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Well, it's going to be hard to say everything that was removed or swapped for lighter stuff. All I can say is that every little thing adds up.

Removed,

twins system
emmisions system
everything under the uim is gone. (Everything)
abs gone
windshield wipers,assembly,motor gone
p/s gone
a/c gone
air bar/wiring gone
bumper support gone
fender liners gone
coolant resevoir replaced with lighter/smaller one
all heat shielding underneith car
all plastics underneith car
stock fuel lines,pump,filter,charcoal cannister gone
all bolts tha aren't needed gone
all plastics from the rear bins back is gone (due to fire)
irs,power plant frame/rear suspension,rear subframe,brakes gone.
stock seats/rails gone
gauses/switch on center console gone
all sound deadeners and rubber inside doors, gone
speakers gone (not for long though)
Antenna/motor gone
spare tire/jack misc gone
abs ecu gone
metal brake booster line gone
abs sensors gone
stock hood gone
stock bumper gone
rear mud protectors gone
strut tower brace gone
no ast
big battery gone
stock coolant lines gone/capped
wiper fluid resovoir gone
lightweight windshield
There's still a bunch of little things I'm forgetting but whatever.....anyone that's seen my car or driven in it can vouch for why it would be that lightweight. They can also vouch for how much better it handles than they though it would.

FYI, the rear end is setup with a lightweight aluminum tubing 4 link system.
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Old Sep 29, 2003 | 07:10 PM
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I weighed my recently removed A/C system at 22 pounds
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Old Sep 29, 2003 | 07:52 PM
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Avoiding the question...Gone
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Old Sep 29, 2003 | 08:03 PM
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Avoiding the question...Gone
He said he was going to the track Tuesday.. I'd imagine he'll be back with some times.
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Old Sep 29, 2003 | 08:21 PM
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Not to just jump on the bandwagon...

I thought that in the begining of the thread he said the car wasn't "stripped". Well I consider a car with no wipers to be pretty stripped.

Here is some info on a TII I had.

Solenoid rack, gone
Airpump and all emissions, gone
Cone filter intake
No fan (belt driven or electric)
Cats, gone
Cat-back was 3" straight pipe
Dash gutted, no heater, stereo, no speakers, no antenna, no ducting
300ZX wheels, 18lbs each (stockers 22lbs each)
Big battery, gone
Spare tire, jack, tools, gone
AC and PS, gone
Spare tires for front tires (saves 33lbs)
Pass seat removed.
Wipers, motor and switch, gone
17lb flywheel

In this form the TII weighed 2450lbs. Basically it was a completely stripped car with the dash shell, and carpet in it. We kept the power windows and sunroof to give the appearance of a "street car". In reality any car without a heater is NOT streetable by most definitions. The 3" straightpipe was a little loud too.

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Old Sep 29, 2003 | 08:21 PM
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Originally posted by ZeroBanger
They could have saved a a good 30 lbs by getting fixed headlights and they could have eliminated the power antenna..thats all I can think of.
Could have save weight from the lights, antenna, could have had a plastic or carbon fiber UIM, rotors could have been lighter, they could have used aluminum housings. That would saved close to 100 lbs right there.
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Old Sep 29, 2003 | 08:27 PM
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I hope you get better times then your previous best of 12.4 or whatever it is, your car weighs way less and has a huge ******* turbo. You should be running 9's once your NAWSS timers is tuned.
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Old Sep 29, 2003 | 08:29 PM
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Originally posted by the_glass_man
Could have save weight from the lights, antenna, could have had a plastic or carbon fiber UIM, rotors could have been lighter, they could have used aluminum housings. That would saved close to 100 lbs right there.
I don't think it would have been very cost-effective though... Could be wrong. Is there a big preice difference in these things? I know CF is pretty pricey..
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Old Sep 29, 2003 | 08:30 PM
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we'll see............. 2350 seems a little far fetched to me too.
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Old Sep 29, 2003 | 08:32 PM
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Originally posted by jdhuegel1
He said he was going to the track Tuesday.. I'd imagine he'll be back with some times.
RXRotary2 7's question.
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Old Sep 29, 2003 | 08:37 PM
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Originally posted by jdhuegel1
I don't think it would have been very cost-effective though... Could be wrong. Is there a big preice difference in these things? I know CF is pretty pricey..
Probably not, but when you pay $40,000 for a Mazda you would expect some things that aren't cost efective.
They could have used plastic and it would have probably been cheaper. They use it on the RX-8 now.
Also if a company like Racing Beat can offer lighter engine parts, it shouldn't be too hard for Mazda to offer them as well.
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Old Sep 29, 2003 | 09:03 PM
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Probably not, but when you pay $40,000 for a Mazda you would expect some things that aren't cost efective.
They could have used plastic and it would have probably been cheaper. They use it on the RX-8 now.
Also if a company like Racing Beat can offer lighter engine parts, it shouldn't be too hard for Mazda to offer them as well.
Good point.
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Old Sep 29, 2003 | 09:05 PM
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30lbs from the lights? Not, both entire assemblies don't weigh 30lbs.

Don't throw numbers around unless you have data.
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Old Sep 29, 2003 | 10:16 PM
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Originally posted by the_glass_man
Could have save weight from the lights, antenna, could have had a plastic or carbon fiber UIM, rotors could have been lighter, they could have used aluminum housings. That would saved close to 100 lbs right there.
my aftermarket rotors are heavier than stock. As easily as the stock rotors warped I wouldnt want them any lighter...
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