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Old 11-11-08, 05:19 PM
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upgrades stage question

i was reading on the FAQ's about the 3 wire O2 sensor for high boost, high octane. how do you wire that up and is that with the stock ecu or the PFC and what tipe of O2 those comes out of? thanks

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Old 11-13-08, 06:15 PM
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hmm anybody? ill apreciate the help?
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I am running a wideband 02 sensor in conjunction with my AEM EMS. I know nothing else
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Which FAQ entry are you talking about? I presume you are referring to wideband sensors, which are usually five wire.

http://wbo2.com/lsu/default.htm
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Do you mean the GM 3 Bar map sensor? That's mostly just for really high boost applications.
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i was reading this on the FC3S.net website on upgrade stages and i found this note here

:note:
A couple people have mentioned in the past that they are not sure of what order to do things with a third gen. They say the other cars they own have stages of modifications that are safe. This is probably a pretty good idea. I can't count how many times a person has asked, "what should I do next?" So I'll put it to the list to debate the order that things can or should be done and to come up with a stage I II III IV V and so on. The main thing I would tend to suggest is two versions based on what I have seen. A Race stage list and Legal stage list.

Here are some ideas. The important part is that it be a universal with no pushing of any particular shop

Race Stage I

Catback
Midpipe
Or all in one like mine
Intake
Boost Gauge

Legal Stage I

Catback
Air intake
Boost Gauge

Race Stage II

Computer
Intercooler
Clutch
Flywheel (optional)

Legal Stage II

Intercooler
Computer

Race Stage III

Downpipe
Boost control (if not on computer)
Vacuum hose tied
3 wire O2 sensor (run high octane fuel at higher boost)
Front swaybar
Springs and Shocks
Colder temp range plugs

Legal Stage III

Clutch
Flywheel (optional)
Hi Flow cat
Downpipe (optional)*
Front swaybar
Springs and Shocks


Race Stage IV

Larger Turbo's (single, super 50 stock conversion or huge twin like Trev
and I)
Non Sequential conversion for upgraded stock (optional)
Ignition Amp (HI6 etc.)
Fuel system upgrade (pumps, injectors size etc.)
Roll Bar
Coil Over adjustable ride height susp.

Legal Stage IV

Larger Turbo's...
Non sequential conversion (optional)
Ignition Amp
Colder plugs
Roll Bar
Coil Over adjustable ride height susp.

Race Stage V

Stand alone ECU (Motec, Haltec etc.)
Ported motor
Internal motor upgrades (apex seals, oil rings etc.)
Bushings etc.

Legal Stage V

What's the point?

Race Stage VI

What ever else I missed.

I can see that there should probably be seperation between power and suspension mods. Most people do the suspension at different times and it really doesn't matter what order you do it in. For this reason I left things out like brakes and pads, rotors etc. Maybe there should be a different Stage list for suspension. So let's see what the list does with this. It would be nice for each vendor to follow a proper order so that people stop blowing motors etc. and do things in a reliable fashion.

and i was wondering about that 3 wire o2 sensors. i know they sell them probably for hondas or GM but i was wondering about how to hook it up and feedback about this mod. thanks

eddie
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I don't really know who posted that but they have so many things in the wrong order of importance..... Obviously someone that does not know what the hell they are doing with the FD. There really isn't even a good place to start other than saying it is mostly incorrect. A downpipe is one of the first things that should be taken off due to its proven nature of retaining too much heat and causing damage. More of a reliability mod than just a performance mod. And you cannot bolt up a midpipe and catback without some sort of ecu upgrade without causing serious damage and in a short period of time the motor would go.. Idiots... (not you, the guy that came up with that crap..) Do a search on here, or just check out the faq in the third gen section that will list the CORRECT type/order of information that was attempted above.

On your original question, I think you are looking for the map sensor like what was mentioned above. There is a how to on here to accomplish that install. But know that you will have to retune the car if you install that.
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3rd Gen FAQ:
https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-specific-1993-2002-16/faq-3rd-gen-other-useful-links-68640/


Reliability Mods:
https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-specific-1993-2002-16/want-buy-3rd-gen-need-reliabilty-mod-help-41513/
http://www.fd3s.net/stages.html
https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-gen-archives-73/need-questions-answered-experienced-3rd-gen-owners-27053/ << read the post by jimlab
http://www.turborx7.com/recomend.htm

Reliability mods / $1000 to spend
https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-specific-1993-2002-16/i-have-%241-000-spend-339981/


I'd suggest upgrading the computer and fuel system before installing a midpipe. People have proven time and time again that the stock ECU and fuel system just can't compensate for significant airflow improvements.
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Originally Posted by oo7arkman
I don't really know who posted that but they have so many things in the wrong order of importance..... Obviously someone that does not know what the hell they are doing with the FD. There really isn't even a good place to start other than saying it is mostly incorrect. A downpipe is one of the first things that should be taken off due to its proven nature of retaining too much heat and causing damage. More of a reliability mod than just a performance mod. And you cannot bolt up a midpipe and catback without some sort of ecu upgrade without causing serious damage and in a short period of time the motor would go.. Idiots... (not you, the guy that came up with that crap..) Do a search on here, or just check out the faq in the third gen section that will list the CORRECT type/order of information that was attempted above.

On your original question, I think you are looking for the map sensor like what was mentioned above. There is a how to on here to accomplish that install. But know that you will have to retune the car if you install that.
woa woa buddy not to get exited about it, first of all im been here for a while and i know alot of the stuff. second of all, THIS IS ON ONE OF THE DAM FAQS HERE!!!!! so get it strait in the FAQs if this such crap. third of all i have done all the reliability mods on my FC with FD engine, i have a PFC so im not running stock ecu, check my GB garage and frankly i didnt in any moment ask how to wire up a map sensor, it said O2 sensor. all i wanted to know if this os really done, if it really worked and how wired up. not to get bitched at it.

thanks
eddie

and BTW i know how to use the dam search button but most of the search are so old that pics and info are not there anymore

sorry for the moderator for my laguage.
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