3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002) 1993-2002 Discussion including performance modifications and Technical Support Sections.
Sponsored by:

Too Rich

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-25-03, 08:07 PM
  #1  
Golf Cart Hooligan

Thread Starter
iTrader: (12)
 
JhnRx7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 991
Received 22 Likes on 9 Posts
Too Rich

my car has been smoking alot...whenever i accelerate i will get tons of black smoke out the exaust. even with the slightest tap of the gas i will get smoke. i am getting very bad gas milage. lots of carbon is spitting out my exaust, and at idle the exaust stinks of fuel.

i just got new plugs and installed them today, it seemed to help a little but not a big improvement

my FD is stock all except for a DP and AST.

anyone have any ideas what i could do?
Old 02-25-03, 09:13 PM
  #2  
Classy

iTrader: (17)
 
evot23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Gainesville, FL
Posts: 6,900
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
How many miles? What's bad gas mileage? Need more info...sound like you are running really rich but will need to know more about your car before saying so.
Old 02-25-03, 10:37 PM
  #3  
Full Member

 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: bayarea
Posts: 86
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
maybe try the o2 sensor but i doubt its that
Old 02-26-03, 02:29 PM
  #4  
Golf Cart Hooligan

Thread Starter
iTrader: (12)
 
JhnRx7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 991
Received 22 Likes on 9 Posts
there are 46k miles on a japanese engine (not sure which year the engine came off of though)

gas milage is about 190-210 miles to a tank with highway and city driving
Old 02-26-03, 02:30 PM
  #5  
Rotary Freak

 
vudoodoodoo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 1,635
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Get new spark plugs. If that doesn't work, get new O2 sensor.
Old 02-26-03, 02:31 PM
  #6  
Full Member

 
:[TenzO]:'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Kali - San Jose
Posts: 130
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I dont mean to hijack this thread but i think my cars running real rich to. Is a lot of backfire common? Im all stock cept cat-bak exhaust.
Old 02-26-03, 02:36 PM
  #7  
Rotary Freak

 
vudoodoodoo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 1,635
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Few of the first things I did when I bought my FD was to change the spark plugs, O2 sensor, and fuel filter.
Those are the most common reasons for shitty mileage.
Also consider that 15 MPG is about normal for our cars.
Old 02-26-03, 02:37 PM
  #8  
Golf Cart Hooligan

Thread Starter
iTrader: (12)
 
JhnRx7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 991
Received 22 Likes on 9 Posts
i got new spark plugs yesterday and it dident seem to help any.
where is the O2 sensor located and how can i tell if it is bad (sorry i'm a Noobie)...how much does a new one cost?
Old 02-26-03, 04:29 PM
  #9  
Full Member

 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: MA
Posts: 142
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The O2 sensor is on the downpipe near the turbo. You can get a Bosch replacement for $20 but you will have to splice the wire from your stock one because the new one won't have the connector. You can buy the OEM with the connector but it will cost you $120 for the same thing.
Old 02-26-03, 07:48 PM
  #10  
Golf Cart Hooligan

Thread Starter
iTrader: (12)
 
JhnRx7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 991
Received 22 Likes on 9 Posts
could not having my airpump connected affect anything?
Old 02-26-03, 08:10 PM
  #11  
Senior Member

 
boostedrotor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: dallas
Posts: 297
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
you should probally hook up your airpump......why do you have it unhooked anyway?
Old 02-26-03, 08:11 PM
  #12  
All out Track Freak!

iTrader: (263)
 
Fritz Flynn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Charlottesville VA 22901
Posts: 10,672
Received 412 Likes on 250 Posts
Originally posted by JhnRx7
could not having my airpump connected affect anything?
YES

Reconnect it and make sure the midcat is not clogged do a search for symtoms of a clogged exhaust. A simpler solution is to get a midpipe and with the stock catback you should not spike to high.
Good luck
Old 02-26-03, 10:26 PM
  #13  
I'm a CF and poop smith

 
skunks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Hawaii
Posts: 3,958
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
check your injectors
Old 02-27-03, 03:05 PM
  #14  
Golf Cart Hooligan

Thread Starter
iTrader: (12)
 
JhnRx7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 991
Received 22 Likes on 9 Posts
i went to go and reconnect my air pump yesterday and i noticed that when the guy disconnected it he mangled the whole thing...wires are cut too short (dont reach the others) and the connecter is shattered.
why would someone disconnect it? the guy that owned the car before me said that he did it because there are no emissions (SP?) here in Florida...but what would be an advantage of disconnecting it??
Old 02-27-03, 05:03 PM
  #15  
Full Member

iTrader: (4)
 
flunkysama's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Iowa City, IA
Posts: 189
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
I can think of 3 areas to check out.

1. Fuel pressure regulator. Either the regulator itself or the manifold pressure it's seeing is bad. If the fuel pressure is too high, you'll run rich.

2. Stuck and/or leaking fuel injector(s).

3. Bad sensor/wire/etc. causing the computer to run the car too rich.

If your car was running ok earlier without the air pump, it's probably not that.
Old 02-28-03, 06:34 PM
  #16  
Golf Cart Hooligan

Thread Starter
iTrader: (12)
 
JhnRx7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 991
Received 22 Likes on 9 Posts
well i had my mechanic look at my FD today, he fixemd my air pump and he said my O2 sensor was probally bad and i was going to bring the car back next week for him to fix it...when i got home i popped the hood and it was extremely hot (hotter than normal)...i then heard a bubbling sound from the coolent filler neck and the AST...I turned the ignition to on and turned the fans on and i heard the ADD COOLENT buzzer i left the fans on to let the car cool down.

not sure why it did that, i had the A/C on the whole time I was driving, i was not pushing it hard and the engine only has 45k miles on it.

do you guys think my O-Rings are going? if so do you think the CRC Block Weld will fix it?
Old 03-01-03, 02:10 AM
  #17  
Junior Member

 
Tomarx7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Massachussetts
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I've had a third gen. Rx-7 for three years. From what I can figure the rotary runs hot period. I live in N.E. and in the summer if I drive for awhile the engine tends to overheat alittle. You might want to get an aftermarket radiator, a friend of mine said that the stock radiator is too small. The rotary runs extra hot because of the fact that there are three explosions per one revolution and all that heat is confined to a pretty small area. My car has never run perfect, I think the rotary was a great idea but in reality it is not a very reliable and economical design. Its too bad because when you think of its inherent qualities it seems like it should be more efficient. Unfortunately gas is going to only up so I guess I will be mothballing my car for the next year or so. Good luck.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
barkz
Power FC Forum
37
11-21-20 09:34 AM
Logan Reinisch
General Rotary Tech Support
44
09-17-18 12:20 PM
HalifaxFD
Canadian Forum
126
05-09-16 07:06 PM
WyomingTII
2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992)
12
09-28-15 10:32 AM
Captain Hook
2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992)
8
09-22-15 01:12 PM



Quick Reply: Too Rich



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:53 AM.