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Old 01-26-06, 08:56 PM
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Stock FD Bar Map Sensor

I searched and came up with someone saying it's a 2.2 or 2.3. Does anyone have an exact answer to what our stock map sensor is cause I was looking at the 3 bar map sensors and figured it was an upgrade but talking to someone else who said ours was a 3 bar map sensor stock made me unsure but I doubt that it is. Anyone know for sure?
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Whoever told you that was wrong. You have a one bar map sensor stock which is good to about 14.7psi safe. Some push it more, but its not advisable considering the nature of our engines. A 3 bar map sensor is an upgrade and a must if you have a power fc and single turbo. If your on stock twins, its your choice, but not necessary.
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Ernie, that's not correct. MAP sensors are rated in absolute pressure, not relative. Normal atmospheric pressure is already 1 bar. Therefore, 14 psi of boost is equal to 2 bars in absolute pressure. The stock MAP sensor is indeed a 2.3 bar sensor or so -- it's good for up to 17 psi.

You only need a 3-bar MAP sensor when running over 17 psi (up to ~30 psi). The downside of running a 3-bar sensor with the PFC is reduced resolution at each boost level. I believe that many 3-bar users recalibrate the PIM table to lose some resolution in the vacuum areas to gain resolution in the boost areas.
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Originally Posted by rynberg
Ernie, that's not correct. MAP sensors are rated in absolute pressure, not relative. Normal atmospheric pressure is already 1 bar. Therefore, 14 psi of boost is equal to 2 bars in absolute pressure. The stock MAP sensor is indeed a 2.3 bar sensor or so -- it's good for up to 17 psi.

You only need a 3-bar MAP sensor when running over 17 psi (up to ~30 psi). The downside of running a 3-bar sensor with the PFC is reduced resolution at each boost level. I believe that many 3-bar users recalibrate the PIM table to lose some resolution in the vacuum areas to gain resolution in the boost areas.
I stand corrected! But you still should do it if you have a single turbo.
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Originally Posted by FallenCho
I searched and came up with someone saying it's a 2.2 or 2.3. Does anyone have an exact answer to what our stock map sensor is cause I was looking at the 3 bar map sensors and figured it was an upgrade but talking to someone else who said ours was a 3 bar map sensor stock made me unsure but I doubt that it is. Anyone know for sure?

Depending on who you ask is whether stock MAP sensor is 1 or 2 bar.

The only time you need a 3 BAR map sensor is when you are going to run higher than 17 PSI on your boost. Regardless of whether a 3 bar is an upgrade, it's useless unless you are building boost beyond what the stock MAP sensor can handle (which is 17 PSI).

EDIT. Rynberg already posted.
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Thank you both for the info. Seems like the stock sensor will be good enough for a while until I get the twins as far as I can then go single. I was asking cause I'm going with an AEM EMS and needed to know the specifics just to be sure I'd be good for when I get it tuned to it's max potential.
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Hehe mahjik. Going on a year of ownership with the FD and still so much to learn. Being a Chevy fan boy has ruined me of being educated on boosted cars. Even though when I was 12 or so an NSX club in SF was formed and about 50 of them cruised by me and immediately I feel in love with them(bout 92') then I saw the FD and knew I had to own one but still pistons is all I knew for a while growing up. You guys all own.
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I thought the GM sensor is far more sensitive. I have a power fC and even with the car not running I can see a cange when the throttle blades open and it never did that with the stock one.
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