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Old 10-31-01, 09:29 AM
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Starting the car?!?!

Please check out my thread under tech tips for 3rd generation. I am having a problem that I need some sort of diagonsis of. Thanks
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There it is. Please, any help is greatly appreciated.
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I hate to say this to you but I just had this problem last Thursday. I could crank on the car all I wanted and it wouldn't start. I finally gave up and tried it the next day and it cranked immediately but this time it came with a ton of smoke and the roughest idle I have ever felt. It is now at Rotorsports Racing having the engine rebuilt. I can't say for sure that this is what your problem is but I have since found the reason that a recently blown engine won't fire. It is because there is no compression in the engine and therefore won't have the proper ratios of air and fuel. I sure hope this isn't the problem with yours but I wouldn't doubt that it is because I have heard that this is the way they blow sometimes. Good Luck!
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I advise you to go pick up your car RIGHT NOW!! I've delt with Rotorsports Racing and they are BAD news. They did some work for me and ruined "everything"! It's costing me $3K to fix what they F#*KED UP!! There are many other people on this forum that have had bad experiences as well! Go elsewhere!!
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I think you're full of ****.

First of all, if you have a problem with a vendor, thats one thing - but to make a statement that attempts to speak for other people on this forum is way over the line.

I have never seen anyone bad mouth RotorSports' work on this forum or elsewhere and I doubt you ever have either.

Secondly, I know for a fact that RotorSports does quality work as they are the only ones I let touch my car and I am extremely picky and uptight about my car - as Bryan can attest to.

You obviously have an ax to grind and are spouting crap that isn't completely true.

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SpeedracerRx7,
I advise you to go pick up your car RIGHT NOW!! I've delt with Rotorsports Racing and they are BAD news. They did some work for me and ruined "everything"! It's costing me $3K to fix what they F#*KED UP!! There are many other people on this forum that have had bad experiences as well! Go elsewhere!!
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Yeah - that's pretty nasty crapola. Why don't you go somewhere else and spew your frustration - or maybe you would like to elaborate in technical detail just exactly where they went wrong?

I don't think I've ever seen a post regarding them that was negative. There are damn few wrenches around the country that know what they are doing when it comes to 3rd gens, and these folks seem to genuinely know what they are doing and care about their customers.

I smell a real 'tude problem here - and it ain't with RotorSports.

Tons of satisfied customers - just check out the threads!

Reputation is EVERYTHING. I just hate cheesy little ******** who blame all their problems on someone else.......and then attack them in public with no backup. Buy a ******' Honda. You deserve it.
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are you sure....

.....that it is just not flooded?
My 2nd gen used to flood all the time, my FD has only done it once, and that was after a cold start to move it into the garage only and then when I tried later it did the "flooded rotary" routine that so many of us are familiar with.

In fact, there is a distinctive sound that accompanies a flooded rotary engine, sort of a "whirrrr whirrrr whine whirrrrr whirrrrr"....
And when this happens, the S.O.B. is just NOT gonna start, without clearing the flood.
So far I have been able to just hold the pedal to the floor, crank a few seconds, let COMPLETELY off the gas and crank, mash the pedal and then crank again, let completely off and crank again, and have it fire. And when it does, it shakes and smokes and rocks and rolls for a minute or so, clearing out the excess fuel.
There are several other routines that others use, some pull the fuel pump fuse, some do the ATF trick, some offers small animals in sacrifice to the rotary gods.......
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Re: Starting the car?!?!

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Please check out my thread under tech tips for 3rd generation. I am having a problem that I need some sort of diagonsis of. Thanks
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This is a wild *** guess, but your plugs could be wet fouled.

When you hear hoofbeats, don't go looking for Zebras.

Throw in a new set of plugs and give it a try again.

If it starts it will probably smoke like a sonofabitch, but should clear in few minutes. Good luck.
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Viper jr and RonKmiller, you can both go **** yourselves. I don't post **** on the forum like most of you. I have a life unlike you. If I post it's only when I can prove what I'm saying. If you'd get your heads out of your asses and look around you'd see that are many people on the forum that have complained about Rotorsports. I started a thread in the single turbo section not too long ago about this. SEARCH if you like! Title is "question for you guys with big ports". For some reason these replies smell funny to me. You guys wouldn't have any interests with Rotorsports by any chance?? Yea, right! Anyway good luck with those ******** at Rotorsports! Btw, Viper when was the last time you dissassembled and reassembled a rotary engine?? Just cause you like the way they treated you makes them an expert shop? Please.
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You have a life and don't post $hit on the forum? So thats why you have 1000 posts and average 3.95 posts per day and I have 350 and average 1.5 posts per day? I smell crap again.

SEARCH you say? I did. I did a search for rotorspo* in all open forums and got 76 results. Not including this thread, I found 8 threads where people specifically had something good to say about RotorSports. I found only one thread where someone said something negative and it was to the effect of "I heard this one guy had trouble with them" and in the same thread another person was recommending RotorSports. People who "have heard" things don't carry much weight.

I also specifically searched the single turbo section for rotorspo* and got 2 hits - both positive.

And to account people much like yourself that didn't spell their name right, I searched for rotor AND sports and finally found the post that you're talking about. I also found a couple other posts that were positive for RotorSports.

So the SEARCH count yields at least 9 specifically positive posts and 1 specifically bad. Hang on a sec while I take my watch off so it doesn't get tarnished by the floaters.

The funny thing about service work is that the only time you ever hear anything about a company is when someone really thinks they screwed up. You NEVER hear when someone does a great job. So to see nine positive statements is really quite excellent.

You said "look around you'd see that are many people on the forum that have complained" but I don't see many people complaining and that's what I took issue with in your post. I certainly don't know you but your posting makes you look as someone being given to exaggeration. If you think I have something to gain by posting this you're wrong - I merely have a problem with your attacking someone's reputation while standing on a thin sheet of ice.

Finally, you still haven't mentioned here what your problem was. You forced me to go find your alleged problem and figure it out for myself. That alone makes me wonder how convicted you are in your beliefs if you cant take the time to explain them. So as best I can decrypt the things you wrote, you had RotorSports port your engine and then someone else reassembled the engine. Did the pieces ever leave your positive control once you got them back? Yes. Do you know exactly how it was put back together? No.

You asked when the last time I took apart and reassembled an engine was? Never, I pay people to do that for me and so did you. Besides your question having nothing to do with anything, if you're such an engine expert why did you have someone else work on it and why are you blaming one persons work for a problem that seems like it would almost have to have been caused by another's?

You said the replies smell funny? I know what you're smelling.

I will not reply to this anymore as it doesn't help the person who started this thread solve their problem.

Thank you for wishing me luck - good luck to you too.
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viper jr,
There's already been alot of bitching on this forum and I'm not one to add to the fire therefore I'll just leave it alone. You shouldn't jump to conclusions so quickly if you don't know the whole story and both sides of it. I'm amused by the fact that you went to find out my daily post average. That's ridiculous. Does that make you feel better? If you search through all my posts, you'll see that they contain only technical info and not **** about who I like and dislike. This place is to gain some info about our cars and to give some back for others. I really don't care about people who talk ****. I don't even look at their posts. Btw, I do not consider myself an expert in rotary engines, but I'm sure that I know alot more than you. I've had 2 Rx7's up till now and I've dissassembled at least 5 engines and then reassembled them. I've diagnosed every single problem I've had by myself. You asked why I didn't describe my incident with rotorsports? Well the reason is cause the rest of the people on the forum either already know about it or don't care. Once something is over than people don't want to see it anymore. Personally I'd be bothered if someone were to keep posting a topic regarding a personal problem. Next time avoid sticking your nose in where it doesn't belong. This forum would be a much better place.
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