artguy

nope...Ringling School of Art and Design


what are the key differences between jimlabs setup and the one that resource is doing?

tbie...I will tell you this much...you keep proving your ignorance...I make more than 100000. I make video games. I also own a non profit organization that helps teach art to nearly 4000 talented people who want to learn and work...and I am a full partner in a conceptual development company that is currently working on two projects for Sony game developers...my artist friends all work for places like disney, warner brothers, sony, lucasfilm, ILM, Nintendo, and many others...a couple of them are here on the boards and are proud third gen owners. you see...every time you pick up your 8 bit nintendo you play games a successful artist had a hand in. every time you turn on your tv (i know you have at least one channel at your trailer) you see work done by people I went to school with or other talented people who have art degrees.

I work my *** off...all hard earned and self made.

the dot com bubble had no effect on me.

j

Crackers

Ohh by the way after reading the retards on this thread.. I am a Rotor head and yes I think this kit shouldn't be performed as it does hurt the handling aspects of the car and adds weight to the car. On the other note it is not my car it is not my money and what ever makes this guy happy with his car then MORE ******* POWER TO HIM...........

Since we are on the bashing mode I don't care for his big wing and side skirts but its his car not mine and we both have totaly diffrent tastes but at least its not a ******* honda hehe..

I also do not like drag racing as I feel it does not prove anything that a dyno couldn't prove. I could sit in a room and hit a button and pretend to shift on a computer screen and serve the same purpose.

I how ever do not think that the sport is stupid I just don't care for it and if some one else does then I hope they enjoy it and don't get hurt. If Resource wants a drag car then what he is doing with his rearend is perfect cheap and easy to maintain. Good luck with it and I hope you kick ***.

If you are wondering what I like. I like AutoX and track racing as I can drive my car for 20 minutes or more with out stoping in a straight line and through curves. I want to get rid of my stock IRS and go with Jimlabs Cobra IRS as it would most definatly prove to handle stress alot better have more options. Only problem is I need to see some data on what kindof driving aspects will change. I am used to the stock IRS if I switch will it make the car handle better worce or both in diffrent asspects. Is the cost worth the use questions I need to ask my self. Hell I could allways just switch it back and sell the cobra irs to one of you fools.. err guys hehe ...

GROW UP PEOPLE EXCEPT THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT YOUR CAR THAT IS BEING ""FUCKED"" CHANGED, AND THERE IS NOT A DAMN THING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT.
It gets old listening to you trolls whine and bitch about other people and thier cars.

jimlab

Did you just make that up as you typed it?

Then perhaps you could explain why there are 800+ horsepower Vipers running the stock IRS? How about Mustang Cobras? Supras? Corvettes? Even Ari is still running IRS, as far as I know.

If we're talking about strong enough for 7-8 second passes, then a solid axle 8.8" isn't going to be much stronger (if any) than an IRS 8.8". At that point, pretty much everyone who knows what they're doing goes with a Ford 9". Exactly how strong does the IRS have to be if you can make 9-second passes on it? All the cars I mentioned are capable of that, and obviously it's more than enough strength for street or road course use.

While I agree that an IRS car on slicks can be more than a handful at the far end of the track, breaking an axle is no more dangerous than breaking an axle in a solid axle setup. The difference is that an IRS car will always retain the wheel, while a live axle car can lose the wheel once an axle breaks. Ever seen that happen? I have.

Crackers

Hey Jim could you possible hook me up with some better pictures and information about costs and what not on your Cobra IRS conversion as I am intrested in possibly going over to the """"""""""""""""DARK SIDE"""""""" haha anywho any information would be apreciative.

jimlab

No problem. Check out my thread in this forum (it's the one with 80,000+ views) or hop on over to torquecentral.com, the redneck homeland, and check out my IRS thread over there...
http://www.torquecentral.com/showthr...916#post120916

Crackers

Thanks alot Jim.

Resource

Why would you totally ruin the handling? Yes there advantages of having the IRS but there are also plenty of modifications to the live axle to make it handle extremely well. I am NOT setting my car up for road racing. Have never road raced it. Will never road race it so the handling issue is irrelevent.

If we wanting the car or a customers car set up with a live axle and for road course we would camber the axle, place the shocks and springs in the most mechanically efficient area, install a evs torque sensative differential, watts designed panhard, and a variable rate adjustable anti roll bar also, the axle would be design is around a floating type 4 link suspension with all spherical rod ends.

Thank you.

Resource

Who runs in th 7s or 8s with IRS? I have seen several 13 second 03 cobras blow their **** out on the local track. And what's this **** about IRS being more than a handful at the end of the track? Hell, wasn't handling the whole subject here? Now I know you have bad breath from all the **** coming from your mouth.

Crackers

Belive what you will resource but Jim is right as I to have seen cars over 700hp on stock rearends. What about the 1000hp Skylines they run the stock irs.

Resource

Get off Jims nuts, leave some room for the crabs.

Show me a car that runs in the 8's with stock IRS.

jimlab

Maybe you're the one who should be wearing the dunce cap...

http://www.mvpmotorsports.com/merchant/8sec.shtml

Resource

Sir, I hate to really dissapoint you but, there supposed "STOCK" IRS is fully loaded with TRD aftermarket componets, which I can build my 8.8 more bullet proof for less than half the money. Oh unless they want to take it to the road course.......babahaha blah...

Thank you.

Resource

Can a mod please delete this worthless posts?

Thanks.

jimlab

Why not make it the entire worthless thread...

Resource

Jim, you were proved wrong. Let it go and stop being an ***. Go have fun in your own thread.

jimlab

No, I simply proved that your reading comprehension is **** poor.

I stated that in the 7 to 8-second zone that most people who knew what they were doing were using 9" Ford differentials, because at that point, an 8.8" is borderline, whether it's a solid axle or IRS version.

You said "Who runs in th 7s or 8s with IRS?", and just to oblige you, I provided a link to one. Of course that wasn't good enough, because they have TRD parts... boo hoo.

If you re-read what I posted, however, you'll notice that I said "Exactly how strong does the IRS have to be if you can make 9-second passes on it?" There are MANY IRS cars running 9s. Care to argue that point?

As for the rest, I don't think there's any reason to belabor the point.

No, I think I like this one just fine, thanks.

AnthonyNYC

iTrader: (3)

Nice project!

Sure beats spending 800 on the Kaaz and another 600 on axles and still will break parts.

Drag racers will appreciate the setup. I like it since it is simple and for the regular guys, cost effective.

I'm sure your car will be on the road in a short time cutting 1.3 60ft times!

Anthony

LT1RX7

All that money you guys spend and you are running 12.30's. Brian Hinson is a second faster on a cam and bolt ons only car......who is the jackass??

And dude whats up with the name thing are you the CANDYMAN???
HAHAHA

ErnieT

iTrader: (2)

Enough of the 10 year old comments. If you don't have anything productive to say about the thread, keep it to yourself or DON'T read the thread. Got it!

Rx-7$4$me

First off. he was running 13.3 pounds. Okay so he ran a 12.3. not bad. But obviously there was tuning to be done and MORE boost to be seen which is why he then turned it up to 22 pounds. hmmm 9 pounds isnt a huge difference now is it? and KABAM goes the diff.

Why come out and say these things if you know he broke ****, was running pig rich, and had much more boost he could run?

*Sigh* why bother being a damn troll if you dont read, and make sense of things first.

Resource

This thread is about the conversion. If you want to talk about how slow you think I am then make a new thread.

Thanks.

jimlab

Got it!

My issue is with the fact that misinformation was being sewn by people who haven't done all their homework. Just as many people simply assume a V8 must be heavier because it displaces so much more volume, some people apparently believe that all IRS setups are weak because the FD's can be a weak link in the drivetrain. Some people also seem to believe that an 8.8" live axle is a lot stronger than an 8.8" IRS without doing any research...

My 8.8" IRS conversion was specifically mentioned, hence my involvement in "straightening out the facts" a little. If Eric doesn't like it, then maybe he should stick to discussing his own swap and quit making blanket statements about how much stronger it is than an IRS setup, when he doesn't know that to be true.

Resource

The homework has been done. You've already been proven wrong. You've done nothing but show everyone that you beleive "if it's written on the internet then it must be true". 8 second MVP Supra on stock IRS?? Okay jimmy. Keep beleiving what you read.

jimlab

Once again, how was I proven wrong? I said that the IRS on many cars was more than strong enough to run 9s. Viper, Supra, Corvette, etc. You mistakenly read that to mean I said running 7s-8s, when I specifically stated that in that range, most people go with a Ford 9", and yet I still provided an example of an 8-second car with IRS. So it's not 100% stock. Big deal, it's still an IRS car. I fail to see where I was "proven wrong". Are you sure you're not the one that was proven wrong?

You haven't done any research, that I can tell. You just bought an 8.8" axle out of a junkyard and proclaimed it the best thing since sliced bread. I researched each and every part of my 8.8" IRS and used the strongest and best parts, both factory and aftermarket, available. Is it the best solution for drag racing? No, but it'll still handle enough power to run a 9-second quarter, the same as yours. If you want to continue to believe that your 8.8" is the best tool for the job, that's fine. If I were going to the trouble of swapping a live axle into a purpose-built drag car, I certainly wouldn't have stopped at an 8.8".

Your credibility isn't the best around here, Eric. You might want to think about that before you start making up any more "facts" because someone may call you on it. Good luck on your project, regardless.