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Old 10-11-07, 04:56 PM
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specialty shops, cheaper then dealerships?

hey i just took my fd to kd rotery, near hamburg. Like an idiot, i never asked how much things would cost before i droped off my car. anyone know what i will probobly be dishing out? this is what i had done

-minor vacuum leak(believe gasket was replaced)
-3 gauge pillar installed

i dont know how much time was spent on both or if they ran a diagnostic to find the leak? any help is appreciated, much thx...adam
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KDR is the place to take any rx7, Dave is a great guy and I don't have enough good things to say about him. Ask anyone on this forum and nobody would take their FD to a dealership.

It really shouldn't cost much for what you're having done unless he has to tear something about to find the leak. Enjoy!
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Originally Posted by bbade
KDR is the place to take any rx7, Dave is a great guy and I don't have enough good things to say about him. Ask anyone on this forum and nobody would take their FD to a dealership.

It really shouldn't cost much for what you're having done unless he has to tear something about to find the leak. Enjoy!
i got the same impression the first time i talked to him. the only reason i asked is because i want to pick it up tom afternoon and i am hoping my paycheck will cover everything because i am very tight on money this month, and all i want to do is get my mind off things by driving my rx7.

thx for the input btw
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You could have asked him how much it might run you...

It doesn't really matter now anyways, he has your keys and you won't get them back 'til you pay the bill
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honestly that shouldn't cost that much. maybe 150? That would be my guess on 80/hour shop rates plus supplies. I'm assuming you haven't bought the parts before taking it to him either. If you have, then it'll probably be less.

could still call him up and ask him how much to bring with you when you pick it up.
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hmm you must have drove right past me bringing that thing home today.

And yeah, for the work you had done, the bill should be pretty light(probably under $200)
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i just got the bill...its 310$. i think its a little much for wat i had done, but o well, not much i can do now?

btw, just to add: i provided everything he needed, even spare hose and ties. i even custom molded the pillar to fit my console/arm.
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Dave gave you the bill at 4:30am?

$310 seems a little pricey, but you can trust that Dave wouldn't rip you off, so I guess that's going rate.
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Originally Posted by 4CN A1R
i just got the bill...its 310$. i think its a little much for wat i had done, but o well, not much i can do now?

btw, just to add: i provided everything he needed, even spare hose and ties. i even custom molded the pillar to fit my console/arm.
so what exactly did he do for a 310 price tag? Correct me if im wrong?

1. He installed a 3 pillar gauge. No gauges were installed, right?
2. He replaced vaccuum hoses with your purchased hoses?


SO 310 was basically all for labor? I don't know the book rates on a vacuum job but the A piller is a pretty simple process. Maybe 15 minutes.
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Originally Posted by grimple1
SO 310 was basically all for labor? I don't know the book rates on a vacuum job but the A piller is a pretty simple process. Maybe 15 minutes.
Depending on how involved the vac work can be...it could take hours. Have you ever looked at the FDs rats nest? Regardless, if it was a rats nest issue, he'd probably have taken off the UIM to get to it anyway.
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I'm also interested in seeing a detailed list of what work was performed.

When I first bought my FD and the turbos were leaking oil, I took it to a "rotary specialist", that charged me over $700 to "stop" the leak and install a BOV. I don't even know what they did, they must have replaced the turbos with a used set or something.... regardless, 3 months later I had the exact same problem...
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Originally Posted by 4CN A1R
i just got the bill...its 310$. i think its a little much for wat i had done, but o well, not much i can do now?

btw, just to add: i provided everything he needed, even spare hose and ties. i even custom molded the pillar to fit my console/arm.
You have to figure that most specialty shops are going to be around $75 per hour for labor (probably a little more on the coasts).
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Sounds about right, due to the rats nest of hoses. Anyway, I also trust that Dave wouldn't rip you off. In fact, my FD is there right now. And if you think that repair bill is steep, add a couple hundred and a 0 to the end of it. That's what I'll be paying after everything is all back together and running properly. If you're feeling ambitious, go check it out when you go to pick up your 7 and see how he's doing on it. It's the silverstone metallic FD w/ carbon fiber hood/door handles/interior. Anyway, good luck with your 7, and hopefully your vac leak is gone...though with Dave working on it I'm sure it will be!

Edit :: It looks like you've already picked up your car. How's it running?
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get used to these kinds of bills! your an FD owner now.. start learing how to do some things yourself its a big help and the forum is a great place for support. stay away from the dealer they know nothing about these cars and will charge you just as much as a rotary shop but you will have more problems when they get done .

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final update

i just got back from kdr...all the cost was for labor. they decided to do everything seperate...which kinda dissapointed me? it only took 15 min to do each thing, but they charged an hour at a time!

i made it easy for them to...i told them where the vacuum leak was. i did forget a restrictor pill though.

i cant complain too much though...i was very happy with there service, and with dave putting up with me...haha
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You are paying for specialty service and peace of mind (I expect his work is done right based on his rep), in my experience any bill less tha 500 is good fortune. Just about every time I tear into an FD there are unknown isses that are discovered that tend to run up the total labor and parts bill.
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With specialty shops, it isn't about price; it's about knowing they aren't going to mess up your car. I can relate quite a few horror stories for ya from stealerships... Not to mention a plethora of misdiagnoses...which result in an endless trial-and-error replace & try method, with an ASTRONOMICAL bill...
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