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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 11:39 AM
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Unhappy possible flooding

i have a 92 FD with a 99 spec engine conversion. well the cars been at the electrition
for a couple o days to get my AC wiring done. the dude was like the cars not starting and isnt sure if its an electric problem.

the car cranks pretty good but just wont start....thers not even a sign of any type of combustion.

could the engine be flooded or is it just a wiring fault?
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 11:46 AM
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ask him if he started it for a short time to move it.

if he did then the answer is most likely yes, its flooded
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 02:18 PM
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i am stuck in the same senereo. my car has was getting some body work done. they moved it to the garage and back out...then tried starting it a couple days later, and it wont turn over.

anyone have a solution to our problem?
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 03:01 PM
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oh and is flooding like a normal accurance with these damn rotaries or does it mean the engines screwed in some way or the other for it to flood in this manner? cuz im a new FD owner and im shitting my pants....should i be worried?
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 03:08 PM
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Work the problem out through a process of elimination!

These engines dont flood that much, but if you keep cranking it they will. What spark plugs does the car have?
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by samad
oh and is flooding like a normal accurance with these damn rotaries or does it mean the engines screwed in some way or the other for it to flood in this manner? cuz im a new FD owner and im shitting my pants....should i be worried?
It's not something I've ever had happen to mine, but, I learned a long time ago never to shut it off until it has run for at least 5 minutes. I did have one flooding incident with my FB, due to shutting it off too soon, before I owned the FD.

There are a lot of posts on this, though, so it is certainly not uncommon.
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by BigWillieStyles
These engines dont flood that much, but if you keep cranking it they will. What spark plugs does the car have?

Hmmmmmmmm..., if it doesn't start right away, and you don't keep cranking, it surely won't start...

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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by BigWillieStyles
These engines dont flood that much
compared to what? ive never flooded any other fuel injected car. its rotary thing.

hell, when we had the 04 rx8, mazda sent us a deflooding procedure on DVD for crying out loud.
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 07:33 PM
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take out your spark plugs, clean them off or get new ones to put in. then try it.
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 11:41 PM
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everyone pick on me!lol

I flooded my engine once, when my battery was weak and i kept cranking it and i had to let the car rest for a couple of minutes before getting it going with a big cloud of burnt fuel smoke. Flooding can occur when the ignition system is weak and does not start the engine quickly in all types of cars, fuel injected cars included.

I would change your plugs, or get them out and give them a clean.

You could also try holding down the accelerator when you are starting the car. In fuel injected cars, when holding down the accelerator, the ecu prevents the fuel system from injecting anymore fuel.

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Old Feb 3, 2008 | 08:35 AM
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thx guys. i figured it could possibly be plug foul. but i guess i will just replace the plugs and hope that solves the problem
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Old Feb 3, 2008 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by DaveW
Hmmmmmmmm..., if it doesn't start right away, and you don't keep cranking, it surely won't start...
Originally Posted by BigWillieStyles
everyone pick on me!lol
Yeah, sorry, couldn't resist...

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Old Feb 3, 2008 | 10:12 AM
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My FC would flood at the drop of a hat if you didn't let it run for at least several minutes.
I flooded my FD a couple of times by just moving it from the driveway to the garage, sure enough BINGO just like clockwork it was flooded big time.

Yes, generally speaking "these rotaries" flood much, much more often that ANY other fuel injected car on the planet.
Period.

I worked out one way (out of many I know...everyone has 'their' way) to unflood, it is pretty simple:

With the key in the off postion, push the gas pedal to the floor. Crank the engine now for 5 - 8 seconds or so. Quit cranking, turn key back off. Release gas pedal.
Crank engine again for a few seconds. Turn key off. Push pedal to floor again, crank engine again. Repeat until it fires. Works every time though in extreme cases you may need to have a battery charger handy, as fast cranking speeds are a neccessity!
This works because the ECU (at least in a stock car) shuts fuel off to the engine if you follow this procedure.

You always know a flooded rotary by the sound it makes. It is VERY distinctive. More of a 'whirrrrrrrrrrr whirrrrrrrrrrrrr whirrrrrrrrrr' noise with noticeable lack of a "compression" sound.
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Old Feb 3, 2008 | 01:34 PM
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yeaa im going to try all the unflooding methods tom morning.
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