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Old 12-27-04, 12:56 AM
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Unhappy PC680 batt dying???

hey fellas

i have a th RE samll batt kit and it came with a pc680 batt

well heres the thing i had it for like 2 months and its like slowly dying

sopmetimes if i dont start my car for a day the batt will have no juice and jump it and let the alternator charge it while driving

anyone have these issue with this batt

any solutions??

thanx
mike
Old 12-27-04, 01:05 AM
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Get some sort of trickle charger for it, like a Battery Tender from batterymart. Without one, I can't start my car after letting it sit for more than 5-7 days (I drive pretty infrequently).
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$40 bucks at Sears.

I used to have to use one as well.
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Yup. I've been through several of them. The security system in the car drains the battery. It doesnt have much reserve capacity so it drains pretty fast. Its worse if you have amps or leave the interior lights on. The charge/drain cycle it sees in the car can actually kill it so a charger is essential. If you go to the Hawker site they actually go into it in great detail. GL
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http://www.odysseyfactory.com/shortlife.htm

here's some info...20 minutes to charge after 1 start


http://www.odysseyfactory.com/odycharg.htm

this link goes into how easy it is to kill one of these batteries by not charging it right
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Anyone ever use one of those solar chargers? The kind that plugs into your cigarette lighter and the small solar panel sits on the dash. I have been wondering if these things actually work. Of course this would only work if the car is parked outside in the sun but mine does and I was thinking of going with a smaller battery since my Optima red top died after 8 years.
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No problems with mine and I even have a system in the car, it's been 4 months now, i just make sure I drive the car once a week..
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I've had that battery, used in my daily driver and it was fine never died on me. If your car sits for extended periods this is not the battery to have unless you do as others mentioned
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Originally Posted by KaiFD3S
No problems with mine and I even have a system in the car, it's been 4 months now, i just make sure I drive the car once a week..

rotoboy661, I think there's something wrong, after 1 day and not starting is way too short of time, unless you have a serious alarm system that needs a lot of juice....

I've had the Odyssey PC680 for about a year now and it works just fine as long as I start the engine once a week, if I wait longer than it will need a jump.
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Mine lasted for less then six months. Unfortunately I let it sit on the shelf and the warranty expired. I have a charger but there is a bad cell. The same thing happend to my Optima, so I don't know which is better but at least the Optima gives you more then two warm cranks or one cold crank. It sounds like you have to send it back for a warranty exhchange.
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thanx guys for the fast response

my batt isnt dead, but its doesnt crack after i let the car sit for more than one day

yes i do have an alrm system

i hd the optima yellow top and its fine

hmm

ill try that trickle charge option

thanx again fellas

more advice or comments welcome

-mike
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Originally Posted by PandazRx-7
rotoboy661, I think there's something wrong, after 1 day and not starting is way too short of time, unless you have a serious alarm system that needs a lot of juice....

I've had the Odyssey PC680 for about a year now and it works just fine as long as I start the engine once a week, if I wait longer than it will need a jump.
Mine used to be able to sit for 3-4 days and be able still be able to start the car. Now it will only sit <1 day. I have resorted to undoing the neg. battery terminal everytime I park the car. It's a PITA! I have been thinking about relocating the battery to the rear and getting a larger Optima with more reserve power.
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^^^ man its too cold to do that now a days lol

any other resolution???

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That's what you get with a NiCad battery. I have it too and only drive my car once a week or so. All I do is disconnect the neg. termal and re-attach before my next drive, no trouble. This works fine with one exception, I have to reset my favorite radio stations on my radio but as I listen to CD's mostly it's a minor issue. If you could work in a switch that would let you disconnect the batt. instead of removing the terminal, that would be easier.
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any of you guys look to see if there was a drain on the batt?
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Originally Posted by mad_7tist
any of you guys look to see if there was a drain on the batt?
I've been meaning to check but I have been to lazy.
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Originally Posted by keynote22
http://www.odysseyfactory.com/shortlife.htm

here's some info...20 minutes to charge after 1 start


http://www.odysseyfactory.com/odycharg.htm

this link goes into how easy it is to kill one of these batteries by not charging it right

Does this mean that the battery will start the car once and then requires 20 minutes of charging before it will start the car again? Or that after repeated starts without more than 20 minutes of charging it will eventually drain to the point where it can't start the car?

I'm concerned about situations like at the track where you have to start the car, move it 5 feet, turn it off, start it again 5 minutes later and move it again.
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Originally Posted by jayk
Does this mean that the battery will start the car once and then requires 20 minutes of charging before it will start the car again? Or that after repeated starts without more than 20 minutes of charging it will eventually drain to the point where it can't start the car?

I'm concerned about situations like at the track where you have to start the car, move it 5 feet, turn it off, start it again 5 minutes later and move it again.
Oh, and sorry about raising a thread from the dead... Just saw the last post was from back in 04.
Old 05-09-06, 08:55 AM
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YEah I'm having this problem too. The old battery I had (also a 680) was fine for about 2 years, then last summer it finally died. The next two have been doing that. No clue why. No difference in electronics setup. But as others have suggested just get a tender.
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Hawker Odyssey has a 3 year unconditional warranty.

I have the PC 925.

I bought the 1st one used & was still able to exchange it after 2 1/2 years of use. It has a date code & they used that as a proof of age (one month under 3 years).

After 2 years of use I had starting issues after my car sat for weeks so I bought a battery tender. From there if I didn't use it every day it still wouldn't hold a charge. That was my 1st clue something was wrong. You should only need to use the tender if you store your car over the long periods of time, not daily.

My 2nd battery lasted over two years.

I must have fucked it up by hot wiring a wide band (heated) O2 sensor that was always "on". It was during a lapping day & I thought it would be a great way to verify my tune.

Half way through the day I had to jump start the car. I didn't think the heated sensor current draw would be that great & the alt would be good enough. What I didn't consider was all the dead time in the pits between sessions with the engine off.

I took it back & they found a bad cell so I got another battery.

Moral of the story? Take the battery back to the dealer & have them test it. It might have a bad cell & still be under warranty.

The test & charging normally take 24 hours. You can't "quick charge" a Odyssey battery. Plus you have to charge it at 50 amps for a 2-4 hours in order to get it to take a charge (10 amps wont cut it). Then after it starts to accept a charge you reduce the current to 10 amps for the next 20 hours.

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Originally Posted by keynote22
Yup. I've been through several of them. The security system in the car drains the battery. It doesnt have much reserve capacity so it drains pretty fast. Its worse if you have amps or leave the interior lights on. The charge/drain cycle it sees in the car can actually kill it so a charger is essential. If you go to the Hawker site they actually go into it in great detail. GL
I hated my mini battery(PC 680). I had to deal with jump starting my car all the time. It would die while just sitting at work. I had to disconnect the neg. lead just so I'd be able to drive home.
It sucked!

I ended up relocating my battery(Optima) to one of the bins.
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had mine for about 2 years now and is still running good, I dont even drive my car that much...hope it stays that way since I am in the 2 year mark....lol....
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I have two 680's and let the cars sit alot ,and they do not like to sit,or they will go dead tried to charge with trickle charge, which does not work. Raised hell with one of the online battery companys i bought from and demanded my money back. The guy said please try charging with a specific 6AMP charger before you send them back. Guess what the battery was not the problem. charged fine on a 6amp charger. I let them go dead all the time and a 6AMP charger will bring them back every time. But like someone said before these drycells are for a daily driver not a car that sits alot. hope that helps ,you can pick 6AMP chargers up for cheap at alot of pawn shops also.
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