rollingsband1

ok my oil pan is leaking ion my fd.. i plan on dropping it and fixing it this weekend.. problem is i know this is quite the job but do i need to use a gasket for it or can u just use rtv on it and it will be ok?? im only asking cause everywhere ive called are out of the gaskets.. no joke! and ive seen v8 guys use just rtv to seal up there pans before and didnt know if i can get away with that or not.

Mahjik

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It's recommended not to use the gasket. Most people have luck with Honda Bond or Permatex The Right Stuff.

extreme_rotary

I can't count the amount of oil pan gaskets i have replaced, and i have found only a few RTV's that work well. The best of which is made by GM. Part # is 12378521

zinx

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I use hondabond, it works very well. I'd also recommend getting a pan brace as well, a garfinkle if you can find them.

rollingsband1

so its actually better to not use a gasket at all.. and use a really good rtv and cake it on as long as it doesnt go into the pan?

Mahjik

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Don't "cake" it on, use it properly. Make sure to wait at least 24 hours before putting oil back in.

DaveW

Read this thread - it has some good tips:
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...easier+oil+pan

Dave

rollingsband1

yeah i didnt mean cake cake it on.. i just ment use it well and make sure its on just right.. and yeah it will prob sit all weekend before I put oil back in.

zinx

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Hondabond says to wait 3 days to cure. I don't want to chance having to do it again since its a pain in the ***, so i always wait.

GARCO MOTORWORKS

More of the good oil pan braces are being made now .

Ottoman

my pan is leaking too.. I fear it's cuz it's not perfectly straight after removing it for a rebuild...

i'm considering purchasing a banzai oil pan brace...

do I have to pull the motor to install it? or just hoist it up off the mounts?

zinx

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Hoist it up off the mounts.

djseven

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Use THE RIGHT STUFF and not regular rtv. I have used honda bond in the past but have had better luck with Teh Right Stuff. I also have 2 Garfinkle Oil pan braces available if any body needs them with all the mounting bolts.

rollingsband1

im down for a brace what ya askin?

Banzai-Racing

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We have brace kits in stock and ready to ship, comes complete with the studs, nuts and bolts for installation.

The engine does not have to be removed for installation.

http://www.banzai-racing.com/product..._pan_brace.htm

G's 3rd Gen

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Yup. Gafinkle brace and good RTV no leaks. Make sure you clean the surfaces very well and flatten out any uneven parts of the pan w/ a hammer.

skir2222

Good info, I also need to order a brace. I don't want to ever deal with the oil pan leaking, the brace would also help tuff up the block to from twisting right?

Davin

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i use the same stuff we use on our aircraft aft of the turbine, works great and is heat resistant to 15000 degrees

zinx

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To a degree, but i still managed to twist mine with a brace and made it leak again, but that was from an 8100 rpm launch with about 5 psi of boost on et streets. The track was really nice and sticky too, so not quite normal circumstances.

93FDADR

will the brace prevent the problem of the oil leak caused by using 2 steel motor mounts?

Banzai-Racing

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Yes.

onefast93RX7

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The brace does not prevent the leaking from the two steel motor mounts. The brace is only to reinforce the thin oil pan (straighten it up and seal better if used correctly).

Banzai-Racing

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Wrong. It is 3/16th steel plate pressing against the pan where the aluminum mount would have had the "nub".

GARCO MOTORWORKS

Does the Banzai brace have a grove cut or milled in for the pinch rail between the bolt holes on the pan ?

rollingsband1

so Bonzai, if i use a brace i can then use 2 steel motor mounts from the passanger side and not worry bout leaking??