not another "which brand of pre-mix" thread
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not another "which brand of pre-mix" thread
while we focus 100% on which pre-mix for which app, we may be overlooking the other 127 ounces in the gallon.
my old friend Lake Speed Jr., previously from Driven Racing Oils/Joe Gibbs Racing, has moved on to Total Seal Rings and is a real deep diver as to motor tech. i have enjoyed and learned from many of his videos.
i just watched his latest and he is on to something.
"Can premium fuel reduce engine wear?"
"premium" in this case does not refer to octane but the additive package. in Europe apparently they offer two fuels w the same octane. the more expensive (premium) contains an additive package. the results of the additive package produced interesting comparative results.
i will let Lake make the case but will be buying Shell going forward.
quite interesting...
my old friend Lake Speed Jr., previously from Driven Racing Oils/Joe Gibbs Racing, has moved on to Total Seal Rings and is a real deep diver as to motor tech. i have enjoyed and learned from many of his videos.
i just watched his latest and he is on to something.
"Can premium fuel reduce engine wear?"
"premium" in this case does not refer to octane but the additive package. in Europe apparently they offer two fuels w the same octane. the more expensive (premium) contains an additive package. the results of the additive package produced interesting comparative results.
i will let Lake make the case but will be buying Shell going forward.
quite interesting...
I should refrain from posting without watching the video. I do have something to say about the Shell fuel.
If your daily gets cheap fuel on the regular without getting a fuel system cleaner, try a tank. If your engine is kept clean already, this doesn't really work as well.
I did this with my daily driver and it made a difference. I regularly use cleaner and waited until a full tank of Shell was used first. I used the cleaner and it was harder to tell a difference.
Do I have definitive proof it works?....no
Will I continue to prefer the fuel?.....yes
I don't regularly show support for multibillion dollar mega corps. However this fuel has earned my trust. I am concerned about continued efficacy though. These big corps have a way to stop doing good things if the bottom line is hurting.
If your daily gets cheap fuel on the regular without getting a fuel system cleaner, try a tank. If your engine is kept clean already, this doesn't really work as well.
I did this with my daily driver and it made a difference. I regularly use cleaner and waited until a full tank of Shell was used first. I used the cleaner and it was harder to tell a difference.
Do I have definitive proof it works?....no
Will I continue to prefer the fuel?.....yes
I don't regularly show support for multibillion dollar mega corps. However this fuel has earned my trust. I am concerned about continued efficacy though. These big corps have a way to stop doing good things if the bottom line is hurting.
Last edited by Jeff76; Sep 10, 2024 at 10:18 PM.
while we focus 100% on which pre-mix for which app, we may be overlooking the other 127 ounces in the gallon.
my old friend Lake Speed Jr., previously from Driven Racing Oils/Joe Gibbs Racing, has moved on to Total Seal Rings and is a real deep diver as to motor tech. i have enjoyed and learned from many of his videos.
i just watched his latest and he is on to something.
"Can premium fuel reduce engine wear?"
"premium" in this case does not refer to octane but the additive package. in Europe apparently they offer two fuels w the same octane. the more expensive (premium) contains an additive package. the results of the additive package produced interesting comparative results.
i will let Lake make the case but will be buying Shell going forward.
quite interesting...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAmEGI7xvBw
my old friend Lake Speed Jr., previously from Driven Racing Oils/Joe Gibbs Racing, has moved on to Total Seal Rings and is a real deep diver as to motor tech. i have enjoyed and learned from many of his videos.
i just watched his latest and he is on to something.
"Can premium fuel reduce engine wear?"
"premium" in this case does not refer to octane but the additive package. in Europe apparently they offer two fuels w the same octane. the more expensive (premium) contains an additive package. the results of the additive package produced interesting comparative results.
i will let Lake make the case but will be buying Shell going forward.
quite interesting...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAmEGI7xvBw
Interesting, yes. And I enjoyed watching it…his enthusiasm is infectious.
No technical background here, but curious as to how much of this translates to our engines. We don’t have piston rings, the housings are chrome, we are dealing with higher EGTs and at least in my case, I premix with an OMP. With WI (thanks to the OP for all his helpful posts in that section). Plus, iirc, the best that the closest Shell station to me carries is 89 or 91, while I have been using 93 from another station. On top of everything else, seems like coolant seals are as big of weak link on our FI rotaries as wear on our hard seals.

No technical background here, but curious as to how much of this translates to our engines. We don’t have piston rings, the housings are chrome, we are dealing with higher EGTs and at least in my case, I premix with an OMP. With WI (thanks to the OP for all his helpful posts in that section). Plus, iirc, the best that the closest Shell station to me carries is 89 or 91, while I have been using 93 from another station. On top of everything else, seems like coolant seals are as big of weak link on our FI rotaries as wear on our hard seals.

Last edited by Sgtblue; Sep 11, 2024 at 11:00 AM.
Interesting thing about fuel in the USA. Apparently due to various reasons, fuel within any given region of the USA is basically all the same (comes from the same refinery, with the same additives). Then it's just rebranded by the local gas stations. So if you're in southern california you're getting one thing, and if you're in texas you're getting something else. But it's not like shopping at shell or BP or wherever is really changing anything.
Interesting thing about fuel in the USA. Apparently due to various reasons, fuel within any given region of the USA is basically all the same (comes from the same refinery, with the same additives). Then it's just rebranded by the local gas stations. So if you're in southern california you're getting one thing, and if you're in texas you're getting something else. But it's not like shopping at shell or BP or wherever is really changing anything.
There are also some regional oddities within America. I know here in AZ, we have a specific blend of gasoline that's required to be sold here for emissions reasons, which is why our gas prices are especially slow to respond to changes in barrel prices
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California too, which is in part why prices are so high. Gas taxes vary by state too, so that is also a factor in price.
One thing I know for certain is the E content in your typical 93 octane pump gas varies seasonally, according to my ethanol sensor. Here in MD, the 93 octane fuels I buy labeled as E10 will vary from about 7% ~ 10% ethanol content; more ethanol in the summer, less in winter seasons.
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