NON-SEQ Vacuum Hose Diagram Rikki-Style
Well I went for it and started a full non-seq conversion. I took off the turbo control actuator and wired the gate open. I teed the ABV and CRV together, and capped off the connections to the charge relieve actuator. I took off the ACV and made a block off plate.
Now I obviously need to cap some more lines and re-route some others. Here are the pictures, can somebody help me with what needs to happen now?
Thanx!!

Here is the stuff I took off

More and larger pictures here:
http://www.nopro.com/~fdparts/gallery/nonseq
More info: my list of mods are here: http://www.nopro.com/new_rx7.html
I said I don't need the solenoids since you normally keep them so you don't have to put 300 ohm resistors on to fool the stock ECU.
I know I'm not 100% non-seq since I won't be welding the turbo gates open right now but if I can take care of all the vacuum lines etc then I can do the turbos when I get a downpipe.
Okay, here is a labled picture of what I need info on.
Now I obviously need to cap some more lines and re-route some others. Here are the pictures, can somebody help me with what needs to happen now?
Thanx!!

Here is the stuff I took off

More and larger pictures here:
http://www.nopro.com/~fdparts/gallery/nonseq
More info: my list of mods are here: http://www.nopro.com/new_rx7.html
I said I don't need the solenoids since you normally keep them so you don't have to put 300 ohm resistors on to fool the stock ECU.
I know I'm not 100% non-seq since I won't be welding the turbo gates open right now but if I can take care of all the vacuum lines etc then I can do the turbos when I get a downpipe.
Okay, here is a labled picture of what I need info on.
I believe there is a diagram on this thread that shows all the hoses you need. Hard to describe it from your picture as you have lots left..and some of the hoses are hard to see/decipher.
I did this conversion last month. Pretty straightforward if you follow the diagram and trace your lines. Takes some time but you can do it. You already did the hard part.
I will try and get some pics up for you.
I did this conversion last month. Pretty straightforward if you follow the diagram and trace your lines. Takes some time but you can do it. You already did the hard part.
I will try and get some pics up for you.
The diagrams and the instructions on rikki's site has a difference. On most of the diagrams, the lines leading to the precontrol is capped off. In rikki's site, he caps off the lines going to the wastegate. Look at the attached pic. He says to cap these off in either case. Which is correct? I tried both, and rikki's method works better. Less boost creep.
just wanted to double check, when using a manual boost controller i can eliminate the wastegate and the turbo precontrol solenoids and the remainding hardlines....right?
also...there are two lines coming off of the turbo inlet, i know one goes to the 2 lines on the top of motor, does the other stay hooked to the hard line? does this make sense to any one other than me
and for the final kicker, what is a good thickness to use for the block off plates? Can i use sheetmetal?
Thanks!!
also...there are two lines coming off of the turbo inlet, i know one goes to the 2 lines on the top of motor, does the other stay hooked to the hard line? does this make sense to any one other than me
and for the final kicker, what is a good thickness to use for the block off plates? Can i use sheetmetal?
Thanks!!
Well, you want something thats thick enough to take some pressure on it without bending. I would guess 1/8 material or larger.
I'm running a profec b, and I left the wastegate solenoid hooked up.
As far as your question about vacuum lines....a couple pages ago there was a colored diagram posted. If you follow that one to a "T" everything will work out. I'd find it for you, but I gotta run. CJ
I'm running a profec b, and I left the wastegate solenoid hooked up.
As far as your question about vacuum lines....a couple pages ago there was a colored diagram posted. If you follow that one to a "T" everything will work out. I'd find it for you, but I gotta run. CJ
Riki or anyone who might have a solution. I did the full conversion but still cannot get the Power FC to control boost. The boost is fine when I install a manual boost controller. When I hook up the vacuum line for the PFC it starts using the stock wastegate spring again. Anything you can think of that I might have missed? I double checked all the vacuum lines (pretty easy now). I'm not dead set against the manual boost controller but its nice to be able to change the boost while inside the car. Thanks, Travis
i think, from what i've herad...the PFC isnt very good at controlling boost. You can get an electric boost controller that will run into the inside of the car...or you can even run a manual boost controller to the inside of the car also...you just need to run more lines. i have seen a how-to on this, but dont remember where.
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HMM
Hey guys,
I did a simlilar non seq conversion, but I ended up leaving alot of hoses int he rats nest... The diagram that rikki provided, are those the only hoses that are supposed to remain and everything else gets removed or capped? Thats where Im not sure, because I have alot of freakin hoses under the intake manifold and I couldent beleive that ALL of them are supposed to be reomoved or capped and only the ones that riki provided in his diagram remain....
I removed that big Metal thing that is accessed from the bottom and wired it open with a coat hanger as another site told to do, is this correct? I guess it opens the wastegate so both turbos spool at the same rate???
Anyways, just give me some insight, I've already removed afew hoses, but I still have alot of emissions hoses and what not under the manifold, I'd love to get rid of them.
I did a simlilar non seq conversion, but I ended up leaving alot of hoses int he rats nest... The diagram that rikki provided, are those the only hoses that are supposed to remain and everything else gets removed or capped? Thats where Im not sure, because I have alot of freakin hoses under the intake manifold and I couldent beleive that ALL of them are supposed to be reomoved or capped and only the ones that riki provided in his diagram remain....
I removed that big Metal thing that is accessed from the bottom and wired it open with a coat hanger as another site told to do, is this correct? I guess it opens the wastegate so both turbos spool at the same rate???
Anyways, just give me some insight, I've already removed afew hoses, but I still have alot of emissions hoses and what not under the manifold, I'd love to get rid of them.
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http://www.dontbearikki.com/id49.htm
i used rikkis method, maybe I skipped somthing.... Im pretty sure I did everything that the site told.... What I dont get though, is comparing this method to his diagram.... the web page leaves you with alot of left over hoses....
i used rikkis method, maybe I skipped somthing.... Im pretty sure I did everything that the site told.... What I dont get though, is comparing this method to his diagram.... the web page leaves you with alot of left over hoses....
The web site write up is good. But this thread is the most useful thing I could find on doing the nonseq. Yes, you can get rid of all those lines (if you have the blockoff plates). I also did the resistor bit and was very pleased with the new clean look under my UIM. Make sure you read every post in this thread (3 times in my case) to fully understand what to do. I think my problem is probably fairly simple, I'm just not seeing it.
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Re: Fuel Pressure solenoid
Originally posted by Conv.WS6
Hey guys if your doing this mod don't pull the Fuel Pressure solenoid out that isn't pictured in the vac hose diagram. Just a small point. I did this conversion with the absense of the catch can vac hose as well, and I'm very pleased. I've had it up and running for about 4 months now. Cleans up under the upper intake alot.
Hey guys if your doing this mod don't pull the Fuel Pressure solenoid out that isn't pictured in the vac hose diagram. Just a small point. I did this conversion with the absense of the catch can vac hose as well, and I'm very pleased. I've had it up and running for about 4 months now. Cleans up under the upper intake alot.
Wait... So let me get this straight, we dont need to pull the fpr? And we can pull the catch tank?...... I'm getting confused now, I'm gona pull my UIM and probably start going back into my rats nest, can somone tell me what all must be removed and what hoses be capped off?
I see the diagram, but I still find it hard to beleive that those are the ONLY hoses that are left and everything else under the UM is blocked off... Are my eyes deceiving me or is this foreal?
I did the "dont be a rikki" conversion on his site. But in that site, you dont touch nearly any of the hoses under the UIM. Only 6 hoses total are pulled/plugged according to that site. From this diagram I'm seeing on this thread way more than 6 are gona be pulled/plugged.
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Originally posted by Dont_Be_A_Rikki
Okay, rikki... I see the vac line that is supposed to be going to the FPR. What do you do with the other end of the hose that is till conneted to the vac line? Just run that to the LIM ?
Thanks
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USE THE PICTURE ABOVE W/ THE GREEN VACCUME LINES FOR REFERENCE!
I see 4 green lines totall,
The Line that is capped off on the LIM.... can I use this to hook the FPR up to?
Below is in reference to the 3 lines that are all connected...
I see the right line connecting to the FPD.
The Left line Im not sure where its going, this is what Im trying to figure out because I'm at this point in the conversion.
These two lines meet to a T and the third line goes off the picture, where is this 3rd line hooking up to?
And.... is this setup part of the non seq conversion?
oh yea.... can I get some feedback for once?
Another question..... Does this conversion eliminate the upper pressure chamber??? If so, I'll cap off the connection.
I see 4 green lines totall,
The Line that is capped off on the LIM.... can I use this to hook the FPR up to?
Below is in reference to the 3 lines that are all connected...
I see the right line connecting to the FPD.
The Left line Im not sure where its going, this is what Im trying to figure out because I'm at this point in the conversion.
These two lines meet to a T and the third line goes off the picture, where is this 3rd line hooking up to?
And.... is this setup part of the non seq conversion?
oh yea.... can I get some feedback for once?
Another question..... Does this conversion eliminate the upper pressure chamber??? If so, I'll cap off the connection.
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Originally posted by spoolage
USE THE PICTURE ABOVE W/ THE GREEN VACCUME LINES FOR REFERENCE!
I see 4 green lines totall,
The Line that is capped off on the LIM.... can I use this to hook the FPR up to?
Below is in reference to the 3 lines that are all connected...
I see the right line connecting to the FPD.
The Left line Im not sure where its going, this is what Im trying to figure out because I'm at this point in the conversion.
These two lines meet to a T and the third line goes off the picture, where is this 3rd line hooking up to?
And.... is this setup part of the non seq conversion?
oh yea.... can I get some feedback for once?
Another question..... Does this conversion eliminate the upper pressure chamber??? If so, I'll cap off the connection.
USE THE PICTURE ABOVE W/ THE GREEN VACCUME LINES FOR REFERENCE!
I see 4 green lines totall,
The Line that is capped off on the LIM.... can I use this to hook the FPR up to?
Below is in reference to the 3 lines that are all connected...
I see the right line connecting to the FPD.
The Left line Im not sure where its going, this is what Im trying to figure out because I'm at this point in the conversion.
These two lines meet to a T and the third line goes off the picture, where is this 3rd line hooking up to?
And.... is this setup part of the non seq conversion?
oh yea.... can I get some feedback for once?
Another question..... Does this conversion eliminate the upper pressure chamber??? If so, I'll cap off the connection.
And.... is this setup part of the non seq conversion?
oh yea.... can I get some feedback for once?
Well the line that has a bolt in it should go to the FPR. The 2 oil Met. Lines go to the plastic elbow for air or can be installed on a line fitting with pressure. There is no need for a pressure chamber on NON-SEQ. You need the lines for :
Boost gauge
Map Sensor
FPR
Oil Met.
Boost Control
That is about it. I have been away for awhile but I am back with a new screen name
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okk....
soo uhh,
I run the line that goes off the picture just anywhwere??
Can I run it to the UIM?
also, you say I need no pressure chamber... does this mean I can eliminate the lower pressure chamber???
Thanks..
gota go to autozone and buy a t.
later !!!
I think Im almost done, just gota wait for the BOP to come in for the acv!!!!
yeehaaa
soo uhh,
I run the line that goes off the picture just anywhwere??
Can I run it to the UIM?
also, you say I need no pressure chamber... does this mean I can eliminate the lower pressure chamber???
Thanks..
gota go to autozone and buy a t.
later !!!
I think Im almost done, just gota wait for the BOP to come in for the acv!!!!
yeehaaa
Last edited by spoolage; Mar 6, 2003 at 06:51 PM.
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question about ACV removal
I have I think 3 wires that were connected to the ACV..... What do I do with these? can I just leave them unconnected??? I'm removing the ACV and putting on a blockoff plate, do I need to get resistors for these as well or just leave them be..?
The ACV electrical connection can just be tucked away (no resistor). The third line is the one in the previous pages diagram that has the hand drawn lines with two filter looking ends (blue lines in the color diagram). It basically connects to the nipple on the same area as the boost and prespool solenoid sensors connect. There will be 3 lines capped at that area and 3 connected. 2 to either the boost solenoid or the prespool solenoid and the one going to the T fitting.
Both plastic tanks come out when you do the nonseq mod.
Both plastic tanks come out when you do the nonseq mod.
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hmmmm
I dont have a camera that works, but my bro is comin down from Austin tomorrow. I'll try to get some pics up for you to reference, once you realize where the fpr hooks up you feel so stupid beceause they are so close to eachother.
Ill try to explain it though....
Refer to the picture I recently posted in this thread,
the one w/ the green vaccume lines...
You see the green line that is capped off at the end?
Thats the nipple you want to attach the vaccume line to... its the one that everyone has been mentioning on this thread, the only nipple that faces the firewall on the LIM (lower intake manifold). You then want to go in the direction that nipple is pointing and you will run into the fuel line, the FPR is located on the side of the LIM. You cant see it in the picture but its there, you will see a line coming out of it, you might need to remove your intake/piping anything else that might be getting in your way but you will see if if you look hard, take the line thats on it if theres one at all, (mine broke off) and attach the other end of the vaccume line that you attached to the LIM nipple to the nipple on the FPR.
you will need about 8 to 11 inches of line so its not stretched out and pretty relaxed to avoid the line from popping off.
hope this was a help, and Ill try to get some pictures posted... cant wait for the block off plate for the ACV to come in !!!!
Ill try to explain it though....
Refer to the picture I recently posted in this thread,
the one w/ the green vaccume lines...
You see the green line that is capped off at the end?
Thats the nipple you want to attach the vaccume line to... its the one that everyone has been mentioning on this thread, the only nipple that faces the firewall on the LIM (lower intake manifold). You then want to go in the direction that nipple is pointing and you will run into the fuel line, the FPR is located on the side of the LIM. You cant see it in the picture but its there, you will see a line coming out of it, you might need to remove your intake/piping anything else that might be getting in your way but you will see if if you look hard, take the line thats on it if theres one at all, (mine broke off) and attach the other end of the vaccume line that you attached to the LIM nipple to the nipple on the FPR.
you will need about 8 to 11 inches of line so its not stretched out and pretty relaxed to avoid the line from popping off.
hope this was a help, and Ill try to get some pictures posted... cant wait for the block off plate for the ACV to come in !!!!
very helpful
Most people suck at explaining things. I always explain them so anyone can understand and you did the same just now.
My car has been running really rich lately and people have said that if this fpr isn't hooked up then it will make your car run really rich at idle and very very lean with any boost. So this is why I just **** myself and went to check at 3 in the morning. I burned the hell out of myself reaching my hand to the vacuum coming off of the fpr and looked with a flashlight and it's going right to the spot in the picture!! I was so relieved. It is still running really rich though when I floor it it shoots black smoke out of the back. I'm positive it is gas because my friend and I both saw it and it smells like raw fuel and is really black and there's lots of it.
Not that I'm complaining in the short run about running too rich but in the end I know it's not super healthy. What else could be causing me to run this rich? Like people have said there aren't many things to look at with non seq so if the fpr is hooked up right which it is then what else could it be?
heres what I think:
leaky injector or injectors
plug wires
plugs
btw this is a new pettit motor but not installed at pettit so im working out all the little details myself. That's why I'm being very cautious and I'm really paranoid because I'm getting ready to sell the car and want everything perfect when I sell it.
I do have a question about something though and I attatched a picture.
This line goes to the lim near the spot where the fpr is hooked up. Is that right? is that my oil line? And what about the nipple facing down on the y pipe where should that go to? I didn't do the non seq conversion myself so I'm going over it to make sure it's all correct and it's been pretty good so far. I'm going to take off the uim and check out everything further this weekend when I go home where I have some tools. I've been using a frigen knife and penny!!! hahaha
And no boosting for me until I get cameron from pettit to look it all over carefully next weekend.
thanks guys!!!!!
Snook
Most people suck at explaining things. I always explain them so anyone can understand and you did the same just now.
My car has been running really rich lately and people have said that if this fpr isn't hooked up then it will make your car run really rich at idle and very very lean with any boost. So this is why I just **** myself and went to check at 3 in the morning. I burned the hell out of myself reaching my hand to the vacuum coming off of the fpr and looked with a flashlight and it's going right to the spot in the picture!! I was so relieved. It is still running really rich though when I floor it it shoots black smoke out of the back. I'm positive it is gas because my friend and I both saw it and it smells like raw fuel and is really black and there's lots of it.
Not that I'm complaining in the short run about running too rich but in the end I know it's not super healthy. What else could be causing me to run this rich? Like people have said there aren't many things to look at with non seq so if the fpr is hooked up right which it is then what else could it be?
heres what I think:
leaky injector or injectors
plug wires
plugs
btw this is a new pettit motor but not installed at pettit so im working out all the little details myself. That's why I'm being very cautious and I'm really paranoid because I'm getting ready to sell the car and want everything perfect when I sell it.
I do have a question about something though and I attatched a picture.
This line goes to the lim near the spot where the fpr is hooked up. Is that right? is that my oil line? And what about the nipple facing down on the y pipe where should that go to? I didn't do the non seq conversion myself so I'm going over it to make sure it's all correct and it's been pretty good so far. I'm going to take off the uim and check out everything further this weekend when I go home where I have some tools. I've been using a frigen knife and penny!!! hahaha
And no boosting for me until I get cameron from pettit to look it all over carefully next weekend.
thanks guys!!!!!
Snook



