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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 05:34 PM
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CA New Setup - comments & suggestions please

After my new rebuild... I won't have the funds to go single as previously planned *unless someone has a kit for sale with an obscenely great price* As I wanted to go single properly and not mix/match end up in trouble out of money ordeal.

AEM EMS *with an amazing tuner*
Stock Primaries
1600CC Injectors
Fuel Pressure Regulator
Walboro Fuel Pump
Non-Sequential Twins
V-Mount Intercooler
AEM Water/Meth Injection
Ignition Upgrade *havent decided yet*
Electronic Boost Controller


Thanks Guys

Keep In Mind.. I'd like this to be as reliable fast setup without going too crazy.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 05:58 PM
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Well how much boost are you planning on running? I'm just going to assume no more than 15 psi given that you have stockers.

AEM EMS *with an amazing tuner*- Notice a PFC will meet your needs just fine. This choice should fall under whats the best bang for the buck.

Stock Primaries- No issues here

1600CC Injectors- I'd opt for 1300's rather than 1600's to avoid that transition fuel "stump"

Fuel Pressure Regulator- not really sure you need that. But doesn't hurt to have it.

Walboro Fuel Pump- Supra fuel pump rather walboro. Walboros are a hit and miss, mine like many others took a dump.

Non-Sequential Twins- Fine for 12+ of boost. On a sequential setup the transition becomes harder to control as the boost level is increased. For 12 psi or lower stay with sequential

V-Mount Intercooler- I wanted one till I found out that you must remove the AC. That was back in the day so they may have kits that let you keep it.

AEM Water/Meth Injection- cant go wrong with that

Ignition Upgrade *havent decided yet*- wait to see if you need it.

Electronic Boost Controller-greddy profec b spec II is rather cheap and reliable.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 06:20 PM
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Well how much boost are you planning on running? I'm just going to assume no more than 15 psi given that you have stockers.

AEM EMS *with an amazing tuner*- Notice a PFC will meet your needs just fine. This choice should fall under whats the best bang for the buck.

Stock Primaries- No issues here

1600CC Injectors- I'd opt for 1300's rather than 1600's to avoid that transition fuel "stump"

Fuel Pressure Regulator- not really sure you need that. But doesn't hurt to have it.

Walboro Fuel Pump- Supra fuel pump rather walboro. Walboros are a hit and miss, mine like many others took a dump.

Non-Sequential Twins- Fine for 12+ of boost. On a sequential setup the transition becomes harder to control as the boost level is increased. For 12 psi or lower stay with sequential

V-Mount Intercooler- I wanted one till I found out that you must remove the AC. That was back in the day so they may have kits that let you keep it.

AEM Water/Meth Injection- cant go wrong with that

Ignition Upgrade *havent decided yet*- wait to see if you need it.

Electronic Boost Controller-greddy profec b spec II is rather cheap and reliable.
Thanks for the advice. I work in the industry so I can get excellent prices on some items for my build. My AC has already removed. Was considering purchasing a fuel system from another member. Can you elaborate on fuel "stump"
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by jonnyrx7
Thanks for the advice. I work in the industry so I can get excellent prices on some items for my build. My AC has already removed. Was considering purchasing a fuel system from another member. Can you elaborate on fuel "stump"
With very large secondaries such as 1600cc injetors, it's hard to tune out a smooth transition when they come online. Your injector selection should reflect your goal whp. Too much variation between the primaries and secondaries can cause the mentioned hesitation.

On another note: I too plan to go with an AEM WI setup. The fault controller, level sensor, and interior warning light is a great feature. I have heard good things about it. Do you plan to run a mounted bottle or utilize the washer reservoir like some?

I have been considering a rear mounted tank for size. 1 gallon goes pretty quick for spirited runs.

Overall, great sounding setup.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 07:45 PM
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With very large secondaries such as 1600cc injetors, it's hard to tune out a smooth transition when they come online. Your injector selection should reflect your goal whp. Too much variation between the primaries and secondaries can cause the mentioned hesitation.

On another note: I too plan to go with an AEM WI setup. The fault controller, level sensor, and interior warning light is a great feature. I have heard good things about it. Do you plan to run a mounted bottle or utilize the washer reservoir like some?

I have been considering a rear mounted tank for size. 1 gallon goes pretty quick for spirited runs.

Overall, great sounding setup.
I was really hoping for 340whp.

Im going to mount the 1 gallon tank in the trunk.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 09:56 PM
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I haven't seen one FD in long beach in a while use to see them a lot back then...

Good luck getting your car back up and running.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 09:58 PM
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I'd recommend new 550cc primaries, a Supra fuel pump as already mentioned, and for an ignition amp the HK$ Twinpower is the one to get despite it's hefty price.

Good luck finding an AEM rotary tuner, if you don't have one of those available to you go with a PFC.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 10:08 PM
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1300cc secondary injectors will be fine for you, I agree with the others on PFC vs AEM as well.
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 12:23 AM
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Both the EMS or PFC can control boost, I suspect you may be able to get away with using the stock boost control solenoid if your wastegate is ported. The AEM is able to do some cool stuff but the FD requires the tuner to be familiar with some of the less-common features (staged injection, trailing spark) which could make it difficult if the tuner hasn't done rotaries with an EMS before. Then again if you've got an amazing tuner lined up they should be telling you what they prefer to work with and their previous work should speak for itself.

If you're adding water/meth injection, do you need the upgraded intercooler?
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 01:07 AM
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I guess 1300cc injectors is what I'll lean towards. I already have the fuel pump in...so I kind of want to stick with the Walboro. Im considering Power FC because of the price...however this tuner.. I can't name his name for professional reasons. But yeah... he is one of the best tuners world known and I trust him.. he after all...owns a rotary too He prefers the AEM but is cool with PFC as well.

So you guys think 1300cc injectors without a regulator and stock primarys will be fine?

Do you think I'll reach my goal of 340whp *with or without street porting*
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 11:27 AM
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1300's should be fine. You might want to go to 850 primarys if you ever plan to go single down the road. No fuel pressure reg. is needed for the amount of power/mods you plan to run.

I made 362whp with a single, 850/1300 and was in the mid 80% injector duty cycle.

Upgraded intercooler is a must, even if you run water/meth injection.

I would go with what ever ecu the tuner is most comfortable with. And I agree with Rich, get a twinpower and be done with it.
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 01:59 PM
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If your going single eventually anyway, I would look into a full fuel system while your doing it. 850 primaries and 1600 secondaries is an excellet setup. This also gives you the ability to ditch that wretched pulsation dampener.

That way you could simply add another supra pump and have no issues with flow or fuel demand when you go single.

That said, I realize that there is often a budget.....
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 02:03 PM
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has anyone used MSD ignition w/rev limiter.
Or Speicifically MSD 6AL-2?

or Jacobs ignition from rx7.com?
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
Good luck finding an AEM rotary tuner, if you don't have one of those available to you go with a PFC.
Tri-Point Engineering in Canoga Park, Ca. Worth the drive.
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 12:33 PM
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Do you already have a smic upgrade?(per your sig). I'm sure if it's an upgraded one, you'll be fine with that one.
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Originally Posted by XLR8
With very large secondaries such as 1600cc injetors, it's hard to tune out a smooth transition when they come online. Your injector selection should reflect your goal whp. Too much variation between the primaries and secondaries can cause the mentioned hesitation.

On another note: I too plan to go with an AEM WI setup. The fault controller, level sensor, and interior warning light is a great feature. I have heard good things about it. Do you plan to run a mounted bottle or utilize the washer reservoir like some?

I have been considering a rear mounted tank for size. 1 gallon goes pretty quick for spirited runs.

Overall, great sounding setup.
Exactly; I would recommend these injectors;

http://www.turblown.net/store/index.php?productID=63
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