My friend in Japan has found a place he can get BRAND NEW Power FC's with commanders for About $800-850. Which to me sounds like a really good to, "IF" they will work with USDM cars. And yes it is for a pre-95 car (Series 1-3 FD).

Is anyone using one? Or know if there is any difference between the JDM and USDM? Sound like a good deal to go that way?

Thanks!

 

All PFC's are intended for JDM.

You will need the version for 92-95 otherwise you will need a Knightsports adapter for the 16 bit but I don't beleive they make one for the 24bit.

Any of the black market internet stores can sell you both the PFC & Commander for just under $900 shipped to your door.

 

depends if it's an 8 bit pfc or not since series 1-3 in the states used 8 bit ecu's.
That's the only issue that I can think of...

 

There is no such thing as an 8 bit PFC, only the factory FD computers from years 92-95 are 8 bit, all PFCs are 16 bit ECUs.

 

Hmmmm, now I am lost. Let me see if I can get this straightened out. I would need an 16bit? And as long as it is for a 92-95 I will be fine right?

Saw your post RX794 and it hit me that factory ECUs were 8bit and PFC were 16 bit, but there was a 24 bit as well?

 

900 shipped for a pfc and commander new thats insane no wonder i cant sell mine for 950 shipped? but buyer beware jason posted that his cost is above 900 and he is a large distributer im assuming. oh well looks like mine is going on ebay

 

I bought mine from japan. Its exactly the same and works well. i paid $999 shipped with commander brand new. good luck.

 

My friend has seen them anywhere from $700-850 w/commander, since he is in Japan I am sure they are cheaper wholesale wise there than here.

See its a toss up between a USED PFC and commander for $900-1100 or a NEW JDM for $700-850, seeing as neither would have a warranty it sounds best to go with a new jdm. Does anything justifiy getting one states side for $1250 new, other than a warranty maybe???

 

Apexi Japan offers a "free" commander for the JDM market which lowers the overall price.
There are only two authorized (w/warranty) US dealers.
1. rx7.com (tx)
2. dynamic autosports (ca)

There are three different models and the part # is based on which series you have or year.

You're final cost will not be $700 nor $850. I doubt it will be less then $950 shipped (new) directly from Japan.

 

mt

 

there are more dealers i believe, just not RX7 only dealers. i think carboy in houston is an official dealer for PFCs but they mostly work on hondas.

 

I paid 950 for a japanese PFC and commander.. its exactly the same..

 

http://www.rotaryextreme.com/fdindex.html $985 w/commander

Best deal I found so far from the US.

 

OK, lemme explain it like this:
92-95 FD Factory ecu = 8 bit
96-up FD Factory ecu = 16 bit.
Apexi PFC for 92-up FD ALL were 16 bit.

There was no 24 bit factory or PFC ecu ever made for the Fd!

The main differences between the 92-95 PFC and the 96-up PFC is the way that the harness is connected to the ecu, different harness, different plugs on PFC ecus for the FD depending on year.
Hope this clears any confusion.

 

No the original poster is correct. You can get a Power FC new for about $600 and a commander for $200. I see them a lot.

FWIW, ALL Power FC's in the states originally were "JDM". They were made for japanese cars, hence why you(with American FDs) have to remove 2 wires on your harness.

 

Searching the Knightsport website, I didn't see anything about the harness adapter. Anyone have solid info on this or just internet rumors?

Tim

 

^ they used to list it. You can get info from Jason (jt-imports).

 

Actually, I thought that was only on 93s...but in 94s and 95s, no wire splicing was necessary...

I'm pretty sure there are subtle differences...as I know Brandon @ RX7Trix sells two versions of the PFCs, each for a diff price, because one's a US Spec (no splicing necessary), and the other is JDM (splicing necessary). And the JDM are cheaper, obviously. But who knows...maybe it's as simple as the US ones must be bought from authorized dealers, and thus the middleman makes the price go up? https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-specific-1993-2002-16/jdm-differences-280370/

 

I thought no matter what PFC you bought you had to do splicing. You sure about that?

 

Absolutely NOT sure about it lol. That's why I said "I thought." But I heard it both from Ryan @ PFS and Brandon @ RX7Trix, if memory serves me correct... In fact, Ryan told me he didn't slice jack on my PFC LOL (which leaves me REALLY bewildered, since it's a 94 w/ a JDM PFC...)

 

Hmmmm, it would be nice if people that have more info would chime in on this.... Because I am/was under the impression they all had to be.

Anyone know the difference between the serial numbers 414-Z004 and 414-AZ004?

Whats the splicing for, what wires? guess I will look that up.