Oh, I've got some tricks up my sleeve. I have many goodies that I ordered while in Baghdad that I need to install. Water Injection shall become my best friend

 

Just pretend for a moment...that KDR offered this device to Mazda to use in the 3rd gen when the 3rd gen was being developed...

Just pretend for a moment that Mazda was aware of the capabilities of this device from working with KDR on other projects..

Just pretend that Mazda said something like "We would rather run conservative timing and fuel mixture on the car, than put this device on the car".

So just pretend that the above statements are true...how would you feel about Mazda?

 

I got all u guys beat.

going on #6 and 230k miles on the chassis and other under the hood components.......

 

Then there would be a whole lot less Supra and NSX owners

And FD value would skyrocket ..........

 

I read somewhere that Mazda knew of this device but wanted to keep selling the remanufactured 13b's

 

Ya Think?

 

i dont knwo if its good or bad... but my FD was on motor 5 before it hit 50K.

back on topic... i dont knwo if i can take reading this thread anymore. so what you guys are telling me is that we should believe ONE persons experience as gospel? (spelling?) hell it could be true, and we would all be like the Jews who killed Jesus.... ONE mans words is the truth.
Please dont turn this into a religios thread... i would rather hear about anti-detonation on an rx7 forum.

 

I find this statement hard to believe. I seriously doubt that mazda would intentionally ruin their reputation just so they could sell engines.

 

what ever the reason, Mazda KNEW about the device, but elected against it.

 

well i plan on leaving my car at your shop for a while...i need my toe and trailing installed and a koni up front...bushing time...and tuning too...oh ****..ignition too...so add in some of those goodies that are up your sleeve man...my car wants whatever yer up to. hahah

anyone want to swap a greddy profec (3bar) and a j&s knock sensor system for a great ignition setup?

how the hell do you guys go thru five motors?? steep learning curve there or bunk shops selling bunk parts. Im on my third..the first two went from my own ignorance....this one is gonna last me.

well boys...bring on your anti detonation elixer....i hope it is everything that you all think it is...im a skeptic though..so its good to see some of you foos guiniepigging this thing...tis brave of you.


j

 

It's my understanding that stepfather, Ford stopped Rotary development when they wanted to drop the FD.....

 

LOL! original motor was replaced by delaer at 4,000 miles and the problem was a gasket. but that was under waranty. others were wanting to believe that a preprogramed ecu could handle what it was advertised to handle. LOL another was a stupid oversight ...

 

i thought when ford took over mazda, they just blatantly said that they would have nothing to do with the rotary and rotary-related items. Its not that mazda stopped development...ford j/ didnt give them a huge bump in R&D money for it.

 

yeah......... that's what i was trying to say...

 

I wouldn't be suprised if Ford saw a serious threat to their Mustang sales program when they Axed the FD....

Either way there were no dry eyes at ford for seeing something that they, and chevey couldnt make work, go away !

 

who's FD is that on ur avatar?

 

While its entertaining to put the Bad Guy hat on Ford and make them the subject of various conspiracy theories, I don't think it holds up to logic. Ford is a business, and they want to make money. Ford as a whole makes more money when its various subsidiaries make money, that would include Mazda. If they thought the FD was going to be profitable they would have been all for it. They didn't, and let's face it...it wasn't. If they were really all that worried about a Mazda car taking away Mustang sales they would never have let the RX-8 come along. Its much closer to a direct competitor...and look at what Car and Driver thought when they compared the RX-8, G35 and Mustang Cobra! (Hint: If you didn't see the article, they preferred the 8).

jds

 

Actually Ford didn't have a controlling interest in Mazda when the FD got axed here in the U.S., so they couldn't have if they wanted to. I think selling only 500 copies in '95 was plenty to convince Mazda on its own. What a shame!

 

Looking at the wheels, I would say it was his previous one.

 

Let's remember guy's, Mazda owns 2/3 of Mazda! Which means Ford owns 1/3 of Mazda.
Who do you think has more decision making power?
Yep you guessed right, Mazda.

 

ford owns 40 pct of mazda and has controlling interest of mazda, nice try.

 

yea zerobanger is right....unfortunately. **** FORD IN THE ***!

 

Negative, ghostrider. Ford owns a "controlling" 33.3% interest in Mazda Motor Corp., and the president of Mazda is now an American (last I heard-- they've gone through two already). The first Japanese company to have a "foreign president." Ford indeed calls the shots at this time. Plus, their two companies now share a lot of joint production facilities in countries like Thailand and India.

 

Ok got a question. For those of you that are working on motor #3, 4,5 ....., Did they blow due to detonation or other reasons, ie: broken side seals, corner seals, coolant o-ring failures, oiling problems? It would be intersting to hear. Skip's device solves detonation problems. Detonation damage, and correct me if I am wrong, as I am sure someone will, is concentrated to the middle of the apex seal where the combustion takes place on the seal itself instead of in the "combustion dish" of the rotor?

 

I have lost motors to blown radiator - overheating and oil seals.

But most of them are related to detonation........