SammyD

Yes I realize that these types of posts are retarded, but I just saw a REALLY nice Z51 C6 on the way to work today and I'm having a hard time not looking for my next 'toy'.

I'm making 286 RWHP right now. A Vette makes 400hp, so with say a 20% drivetrain loss that would be 320 RWHP.

I have a '95 without the Bose, so not sure how much it weighs. Not sure what a C6 weighs either. Can anyone help me out with this and possibly save me 50k?!

matty

u need about 330rwhp.
the c5 zo6s were 405 hp. An fd needed atleast 350 rwhp to beat one.

tom tim

if it was a z51 c6 it has 505hp! you need more hp than 350....

tom tim

O and the C6 z51 does 60 in first! have fun with that....

ptrhahn

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You're going to need 360-400 rwhp at least to run with them.

I'd actually let you know in about a week. A friend just ran one to a tie from 20 to 100 mph in a modded 465 rwhp E55 AMG Benz. I've got 365 rwhp, so we're going to do a benchmark 20-100 run very soon to see where it stands.

vel525

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I'm sure a single turbo and supporting mods will do you fine and cost less than 50k. But you're comparing it to a stock Z51 C6. Not sure how it would fair against a modded Z51 C6 though.

SammyD

Yer mixing up the Z51 package C6 with the Z06 C6.

So 350 RWHP eh? I'm not even close. I swear my Rx-7 feels faster now than my '04 Vette which had 350 HP. I hear those C6's fly though.

I have the full exhaust, downpipe, PFC, intake. How do I go about adding even 30 more HP?

vel525

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Umm, assuming your reliability mods are done (silicone hoses, boost gauge, etc.) I would add a radiator, intercooler, fuel pump, bigger secondaries, boost controller, and turn up your boost (get it tuned) to 14-15psi.

LUPE

I've seen a few C6's at the track. They only trap around 108mph. A 320 whp RX7 should take care of that easily.

A watched a new C6 Z06 run tuesday and it ran a whopping 13 second pass 3 times in a row.

tom tim

bad driving!

GoodfellaFD3S

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108 traps? that isnt very impressive. I know the C5 Z06s trapped a lot higher than that. That C6 Z06 may have ran a 13, but what did it trap? those things are monsters. I'd love to see how my FD will fare against one of those, but havent seen any on the road the few times I have driven my FD lately.....

fastcarfreak

if your driving is up to par, you will be able to keep up with one at around 300 rwhp, a little more and you should take him fairly easily. They only go like 12.7x with perfect driving... Look out for the Z06 though, you will prolly need closer to 400 to keep up with that.

LUPE

It trapped between 117 and 120. Trap speeds don't lie....... a 360whp RX7 will take care of that.

GoodfellaFD3S

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The mags got 125 to 127 mph traps out of the Z06s. Ideal conditions, superior driving, strong cars? even so, The new vettes are pretty damn fast. That's not to say I won't enjoy whooping up on them

ptrhahn

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There've been some bone stock C6 Z06's trapping 126-127 around here, and some running 11.1 - 11.2 stock with just BFG drag radials.

matty

a 360 rwhp fd traps 117-120. its not gonna beat a new z06.

A 360 rwhp fd hardily beats the c5 z06. Plenty of stock c5 z06s have trapped 118mph.

adam c

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I raced a 405 hp C5 Z06 from 20 to 120. With two good drivers, and an even start, he pulled one car length on me. I calculated that I would have needed 310 rwhp to be even with him, just using weight/hp ratios. The new C6 is about the same hp as the old Z06. Therefore, you would need over 310 rwhp to beat a new C6.

Never having dyno'd my car, this race told me that my car has *about* 300 rwhp at 13 psi.

LUPE

360whp FD would beat THAT car.

Hardly beats a C5 Z06? I've seen C5 Z06's get slaughtered by bolt on RX7's in the 360whp range.

That new Z06 better be fast for 80G.

adam c

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By hardily, I think he means that it easily beats a c5 z06 at 360 rwhp. That seems right to me.

matty

that doesnt work.....the c5 zo6s trap 115-118rwhp Stock. that means a fd would need around 340 to tie.

matty

a 360 rwhp should beat a zo6....but the poitn i am making is that it would be close. it hink u need abouth 340 rwhp to be equally as fast as a stock z06. 20 rwhp additionally doesnt make it a slaughter. just look at the traps speeds that i keep talking about. that says it all. i dont know how u can argue when the trap speeds are identical.

adam c

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A stock 02 Z06 has 405 hp. Subtract 15% for drive line loss, and you get 344 rwhp. It weighs 3120. That gives us a 9.07/1 weight to rwhp ratio.

At 2800 lbs, the FD will need 308.7 rwhp to have an even ratio with the Z06. Using these numbers, an FD with 360 rwhp should easily beat a stock Z06.

My car at about 300 rwhp was very close to the Z06. With another 60 rwhp, I would have won by a sizable margin.

Z06 info taken from this site:

http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z4700/default.aspx

rx7f4n4tic

hardly... I beat a c5 z06 by a bumper with dp/cb/intake/basemap PFC and nitto drag radials and who knows what he had. we need LESS hp than they do to be equal... not by alot but we dont need anywhere as much Stock c5 zo6's run mid 12s with pro drivers, so the other 80% of the world is gonna run high 12's low 13s.

And with those mods I had around 300whp if that, probably a little less.

jic

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c6 z06s are damn fast..thats all i know

BuffDaddy915

All I know is I'll be a new owner of an FD by the latest friday and I cant wait to race anything.