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Old 04-11-06, 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 89t295k
They aren't 3300-3500lb boats anymore.
Last I heard the new C6 zo6 is 2700-2800lbs AND 505hp so you need at least 500-520rwhp to keep up!!!!
11.3/127 on stock tires is just sick.

I put down 410-430rwhp and could only trap 11.6/121 with Drag radials on a 2750lb fc
I'd like to see those stock tires. Those numbers seem a little fishy for factory tires on a rwd car. I'd expect something more along the lines of 11.7 or 8 at 127 on stiff sidewall tires.

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all right, we will settle all this in a month or so
my procharged zo6 with built motor
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my t78 fd running hopefully 25 psi on race gas.

both cars are down right now for rebuilds. stay tuned. to be fair you can't run modded car with a stock one. they both have to be modded l8tr
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I raced a c5 zo6 with stage 3 heads and a large cam from a 35 roll and had a car on him by 140,even going from 2nd gear which is not the best.
We went twice and had the same result I,m putting down 340 seq twins w/all the bolt ons.
i call bs on that. no fi;ing way.

this is more like it:
Originally Posted by Busted7
I Ran Slight Moded Zo6 With My Fd Dead Even Till Third And I Pulled One Car Before Traffic Got In Yhe Way. I Was Running 340 Hp.
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Originally Posted by fd3virgin
all right, we will settle all this in a month or so
my procharged zo6 with built motor
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my t78 fd running hopefully 25 psi on race gas.

both cars are down right now for rebuilds. stay tuned. to be fair you can't run modded car with a stock one. they both have to be modded l8tr
how much power does the z06 have?
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Straight from Car and Driver:

Thanks to these changes, the Z06 will weigh a mere 3130 pounds, according to the engineers. That's 12 pounds more than the claimed weight of the previous Z06 but about 40 pounds less than a base C6, and lighter than exotic, carbon-fiber megamobiles such as the Ferrari Enzo and Mercedes SLR McLaren.

Combined with 500 horsepower, this modest weight endows the Z06 with a power-to-weight ratio similar to the Ford GT's. Chevy is predicting a 0-to-60 sprint in less than four seconds, 100 mph arriving less than four seconds later, a quarter-mile well into the 11s, and a top speed above 190 mph. We don't doubt these claims and look forward to confirming them when we drive the car this summer.


--So, when they start super charging/turbo charing a C6 Z06, it's gonna get real ugly for your FD guys
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Originally Posted by bricke
--So, when they start super charging/turbo charing a C6 Z06, it's gonna get real ugly for your FD guys
Maybe for some of us . In my case I think the 700 lbs weight advantage will more than make up for it.
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Maybe for some of us . In my case I think the 700 lbs weight advantage will more than make up for it.
Your car weighs 2400 lbs? Isn't factory curb weight aroudn 2826? How'd you shave 400lbs? I can't imagine AC/PS/CF hood and lexan make that much difference.

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Your car weighs 2400 lbs?
A little over. It isn't much of a comfort machine that's for sure. Doesn't bother me any, but the girlfriend doesn't like it.
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You have a 2430 lb. FD? ... I don't think the fully stripped racecars were that light. 2550 to 2600 is the lightest you can realistically make a street FD.
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Doesn't bother me any, but the girlfriend doesn't like it.
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Originally Posted by ptrhahn
You have a 2430 lb. FD? ... I don't think the fully stripped racecars were that light. 2550 to 2600 is the lightest you can realistically make a street FD.
Mine weighs 2,295 with the interior/stereo still in it and a molded widebody and 6 point roll bar

Look here: http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...38BB50196B.htm
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I raced a c5 zo6 with stage 3 heads and a large cam from a 35 roll and had a car on him by 140,even going from 2nd gear which is not the best.
We went twice and had the same result I,m putting down 340 seq twins w/all the bolt ons.

i call bs on that. no fi;ing way.

this is more like it:
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I Ran Slight Moded Zo6 With My Fd Dead Even Till Third And I Pulled One Car Before Traffic Got In Yhe Way. I Was Running 340 Hp.

MATTY
Passenger in the vette had a digicam was only a few days ago so he should still have it will post it up.
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Did you have a passanger too?

The 6.0L C5 is easy to beat.......C6 7.0L is not.

I ment to say 500-520hp not rwhp before.

It may weigh 10% more but it has no turbo lag, more tq, an extra gear, and a wider powerband.
I'd say that more than makes up for 300lbs.
A few mods and it is in la-la land.
With a warantee, ac, ps, two seats, carpet, radio, pass emissions , twice the mpg, quiet, etc....who would want one?

On the flip side, they are selling for $72,000.00-75,000.00 on ebay. I think a 30k 20b would be more fun for the $ and people will still ask, "Hows that work again?" and "Why are you talking about your wankle?"

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Originally Posted by 89t295k
On the flip side, they are selling for $72,000.00-75,000.00 on ebay. I think a 30k 20b would be more fun for the $ and people will still ask, "Hows that work again?" and "Why are you talking about your wankle?"
And a $5000 litre bike will crush them both. Doesn't matter in drag racing, someone out there is always going to be going faster, for cheaper.
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Originally Posted by 89t295k
It may weigh 10% more but it has no turbo lag, more tq, an extra gear, and a wider powerband.
I'd say that more than makes up for 300lbs.
Turbo lag? This isn't the 70's. Torque doesn't win races hp does.
BTW: My car weighs right around 2600 lbs.

Wider PB? RX-7's have a 4-5000 rpm band (ie.4-9000 rpm)


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On the flip side, they are selling for $72,000.00-75,000.00 on ebay. I think a 30k 20b would be more fun for the $ and people will still ask, "Hows that work again?" and "Why are you talking about your wankle?"
I went to te dealer and they wanted 90,000 for a car with a sticker of 70,190. They asked what they would have to do to sell it to me... I told them MSRP. They came down to 85,000. I said nope.
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Originally Posted by mp5
I raced a c5 zo6 with stage 3 heads and a large cam from a 35 roll and had a car on him by 140,even going from 2nd gear which is not the best.
We went twice and had the same result I,m putting down 340 seq twins w/all the bolt ons.
Interesting.

C5 Z06's with head/cam work and exhaust put down 425-460 rwhp on average.
I found this:

"I'm hoping to get 430RWHP out of mine tomorrow. (C5 Z06)

My mods are
Kooks long tubes & off road X pipe
Halltech Trap
MS3 with PRC dual springs
HP tuners tune by RPM in lewisville Tx"

Has your friend ever dynoed his car?
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446 hp.
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I've seen Gene Felber's old car that weighed 2615, and it was a base model, no rear interior, no tar, race seat, race steering wheel, M2 Chromoly 4 pt., single turbo, RP race exhaust, no ps, no AC, no emissions, stripped solonoid rack, no hatch plastic, etc.

Where the hell did you remove 300 lbs. from there (but add a 6 pt. cage) and still have a "street" car?




Originally Posted by LUPE
Mine weighs 2,295 with the interior/stereo still in it and a molded widebody and 6 point roll bar

Look here: http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...38BB50196B.htm
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Originally Posted by ptrhahn
I've seen Gene Felber's old car that weighed 2615, and it was a base model, no rear interior, no tar, race seat, race steering wheel, M2 Chromoly 4 pt., single turbo, RP race exhaust, no ps, no AC, no emissions, stripped solonoid rack, no hatch plastic, etc.

Where the hell did you remove 300 lbs. from there (but add a 6 pt. cage) and still have a "street" car?
I am guessing a CF hatch and lexan glass make up some of that difference? I don't know specifically how much though.
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Where the hell did you remove 300 lbs. from there (but add a 6 pt. cage) and still have a "street" car?
It's probably Barely Legal! Just the way we like them.
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lets see if I can recall...solid rear axle, no exhaust passed the DP, fuel cell, no sway bars, and a few other things not mentioned here.

oh, and I would not call it a street car by any strectch of my imagination.
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Yeah.. if you replaced w/ a CF hatch, hood, front fenders, and doors w/ Lexan glass you're talking maybe 100 lbs. a CF hatch and plexi window is worth like 25 lbs by themselves.

solid axle, no sway bars, fuel cell, etc., doesn't sound like a street car, and FD, or a valid data point anymore.
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He probably saves 50lbs as well with slicks and little drag only front tires.

I think I was down to about 2550 or so wet weight back in the day and that was about the limit of what a real street car could reach with real glass 4 point bar etc.
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Originally Posted by 89t295k
Did you have a passanger too?

The 6.0L C5 is easy to beat.......C6 7.0L is not.

I ment to say 500-520hp not rwhp before.

It may weigh 10% more but it has no turbo lag, more tq, an extra gear, and a wider powerband.
I'd say that more than makes up for 300lbs.
A few mods and it is in la-la land.
With a warantee, ac, ps, two seats, carpet, radio, pass emissions , twice the mpg, quiet, etc....who would want one?

On the flip side, they are selling for $72,000.00-75,000.00 on ebay. I think a 30k 20b would be more fun for the $ and people will still ask, "Hows that work again?" and "Why are you talking about your wankle?"
There was no 6.0L C5, only the base C6 is a 6.0L. All C5's were 5.7's.
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Originally Posted by Mr rx-7 tt
Turbo lag? This isn't the 70's. Torque doesn't win races hp does.
BTW: My car weighs right around 2600 lbs.

Wider PB? RX-7's have a 4-5000 rpm band (ie.4-9000 rpm)


I went to te dealer and they wanted 90,000 for a car with a sticker of 70,190. They asked what they would have to do to sell it to me... I told them MSRP. They came down to 85,000. I said nope.
The new Z06's have about the same power band, except more useable...Pretty much 2000-7000rpms...
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