Zoomspeed

I want to retard the timing for a notrous shot. Whats is the best way to do this? Will an MSD ignition work? I ahve my concerns since it only works ont he leading plugs.

FormerPorscheGuy

http://www.rx7turboturbo.com/robrobi...us_install.htm

Here is a link to the install.

Zoomspeed

Any thoughts on how to retard the timing w/o using a stand alone ecu?

FormerPorscheGuy

Nope.

93BlackFD

most would not put nitrous on an FD, you should read up on that first, IMO

Zoomspeed

I have read up on it, I've been around the forum for awhile now and I know how poeple feel about it.

Its the most cost effective upgrade for me now since I can get a nitrous kit, and anMSD ignition pretty damn cheap, but thats besides the point.

Any input on the timing retard issue?

Zoomspeed

really? so an MSD system wont work? Why is that?

93BlackFD

nicely put? the stock ecu SUCKS, you shouldn't be running high HP w/ the stock ecu, it's just not safe practice

Zoomspeed

by stock do you mean stock or reprogrammed stock.

rotorbrain

you can get the digital 6 plus ignition box and use its boost/nitrous retard setting. . . but im with the others. . . not a good idea without a standalone EMS.

paul

Zoomspeed

not even with a small shot? I only intend to run a 75 shot or so.

Well will this work even though the digital 6 will only work with the leading plugs?

Zoomspeed

oh and Iw as wondering, why is it such a bad idea without a standalone?

93BlackFD

get a standalone, and then you'll realize it's a whole diff world, and that you don't know how you lived w/ stock ECU and piggy backs

or at least that was the case with me and from what i can see, many others

rxrotary2_7

let em do what he wants.
we all know its not a good idea....

Zoomspeed

All I asked is why it wouldn't work and you make it sound like I'm just waiting for a differnent answer. If you want to be a snobb at least explain why its a bad idea.

rxrotary2_7

how bout NO... scott... LOL.



how about you explain why you *seem* to be waiting for a different answer? what make you feel that the stock ecu CAN handle it? is it because you can get it *cheap* at the moment? is that what you want to hear... that it WILL work and that its the perfect way to do it? how much can you get a reman motor for? or can you rebuild it yourself? just curious....

rotorbrain

when retarding rotary ignition for boost or nitrous. . . you are gonna retard leading ignition only if you dont know what youre doing. . . meaning youll run into negative split. . . then on top of that youll be using a "stupid" device to retard your ignition. it doesnt know what the engine really needs so it could be incorrect. . . i dont trust something that stupid to control my car. . . that i spent 20k+ on. . . make sense?

paul

rxrotary2_7

there is A good reason Paul...

Zoomspeed

And that is exactly the kind of answer I'm looking for.

I wasn't waiting for a differnt answer, I was waiting for an explination as to why I got the answer I did. Big differnce there, and no one really answered the why question (including you) until rotorbrain (thanks by the way ).

If I was sure that it would work; why would I ask? If we can all figure out everything by ourselves w/o making mistakes then whats the point of the forum?

FormerPorscheGuy

Its your engine and its your car, do what you want to it. Just don't blame us when the big bang happens.

Zoomspeed

all of this just because I watned an explination to an answer, becasue I didn't want to accept a simple no answer as truth without a reason....

rxrotary2_7

Zoomspeed: i would like to appologize for my actions last night. i should stay away from the computer when in a bad mood and i have been drinking. sorry....

Zoomspeed

hahaha thats cool. We all get in that mood at times.

rotorbrain

hehe, i did that the other night to rynberg. . . felt kinda bad about it. . . dont know what came over me.

paul

rxrotary2_7

glad its out. today seems better.