Here is our chance to Save the Seven!!
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Here is our chance to Save the Seven!!
I just wanted to point out that Jim Sullivan announced a while ago that Mazda has no plans to relaunch the RX-7 within a year or so. This is from Rotary News, now there is something we can do NOW. Here is a link that puts you in line with a letter to Mazda about why there should be a new 7 and a commitment to Rotary Development. If you guys are serious about wanting a new version, THEN SPEAK UP. Think about what you are going to say. Don't just go " I need a new seven dude, because the chicks dig 'em." MAKE IT GOOD AND GIVE AS MANY REASONS WHY!! goodluck.
http://savetheseven.rotarynews.com/
http://savetheseven.rotarynews.com/
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sorry if its old news, I just thought it would help now. There is a definate shift at Mazda with the moddest success of the RX-8 otherwise they would not have come up with the Hydrogen powered rotary RX-8 and debuted it like a month ago. With the obvious adios to the 300 hp rule in Japan and now the US HP wars, we might be able to get through. So if you feel its useless, then don't complain about not having a new RX-7. Sometimes laws dont pass and 4 years later they do. Things can change.
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^^ Kudos...
also, you guys know that if a new 7 does in fact return, guess what that'll do to the values of our 3rd gens??? That's right... straight down the tubes. As mentioned above, leave perfection alone.
also, you guys know that if a new 7 does in fact return, guess what that'll do to the values of our 3rd gens??? That's right... straight down the tubes. As mentioned above, leave perfection alone.
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Originally Posted by sonix7
sorry if its old news, I just thought it would help now. There is a definate shift at Mazda with the moddest success of the RX-8 otherwise they would not have come up with the Hydrogen powered rotary RX-8 and debuted it like a month ago. With the obvious adios to the 300 hp rule in Japan and now the US HP wars, we might be able to get through. So if you feel its useless, then don't complain about not having a new RX-7. Sometimes laws dont pass and 4 years later they do. Things can change.
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oh em effin gee... have you read the recent letters? they're so premature and underdeveloped... its like kids trying to justify why 15 should be the minimum age for strip clubs.... "I wanna see boobies because ever since i got that pop up .... " ugh... if you're gonna write up a letter dont make yourself sound stupid, justify why, they arent just going to make it because your 3rd gen or your 2nd gen is your baby, or your 1st gen saved your life.. wtf...
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I agree with the leave perfection alone....I hate it when my friends or someoen i talk to about cars go "you know the new rx7 comes out in 06, im getting one"
like "ya okay buddy, like you know anything about the car to get one, youre just saying that cause you WISH you had my car, yor youre trying to **** me off"
like "ya okay buddy, like you know anything about the car to get one, youre just saying that cause you WISH you had my car, yor youre trying to **** me off"
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I dont' know what ya'll complaining about. i look at ti this way. if your 3rd gens are that great, cherished and appreciated and wanted. just b/c a new seven comes out dosn't mean our will depreciate. **** just cuz there's a 06 M5 dosn't mean the 04 M5 is any cheaper. think about it ppl. if they bring a new seven i trust mazda will do it right. look at the miata and rx8 so far, rx8 has good power for n/a. granted prefer turbo.... body is ifish to some and others beautiful but hey. the miata is only less then 50lbs heavier to the na/nb models (correct if wrong) 40more hp N/A and handles just as well or better then the na/nb. why would mazda butcher a new rx7 when it's mazda's pride and joy? Maybe i'm just dreaming i dunno but that's my take on it. i say go for it.
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Dear Mazda,Please bring back the legendary RX-7 don`t let the new supra and skyline be the top sports cars I just want to see more RX-7s out in the streets beating the hell out of all street racers the RX-7 is the top unique sports car and will always be appreciated by true street racers."
Wow. I think Mazda will see that and cease all discussion about even the possibility of making a new 7.
Dear Mazda,Please bring back the legendary RX-7 don`t let the new supra and skyline be the top sports cars I just want to see more RX-7s out in the streets beating the hell out of all street racers the RX-7 is the top unique sports car and will always be appreciated by true street racers."
Wow. I think Mazda will see that and cease all discussion about even the possibility of making a new 7.
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Originally Posted by Nat6c
I dont' know what ya'll complaining about. i look at ti this way. if your 3rd gens are that great, cherished and appreciated and wanted. just b/c a new seven comes out dosn't mean our will depreciate. **** just cuz there's a 06 M5 dosn't mean the 04 M5 is any cheaper. think about it ppl. if they bring a new seven i trust mazda will do it right. look at the miata and rx8 so far, rx8 has good power for n/a. granted prefer turbo.... body is ifish to some and others beautiful but hey. the miata is only less then 50lbs heavier to the na/nb models (correct if wrong) 40more hp N/A and handles just as well or better then the na/nb. why would mazda butcher a new rx7 when it's mazda's pride and joy? Maybe i'm just dreaming i dunno but that's my take on it. i say go for it.
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true. so tell them to reintroduce the body style and come with a new power plant. Tell them Why its the most beautiful car ever shaped. That how the horizon justs gleams off the car like a well painted panoramic picture. I agree this car is the one. It just could stand to come back. Tell them why the 13B TT is far better than the Renesis NA (if you believe that). We are owners. Our feedback should be the most important. I have a feeling that this car died because of its price, not enough people that can throw down $35 g's and deal with the probs. Its awesome now because you can get it for half the price and upgrade it to be fast. The new one would have to either be cheaper or extremely reliable. Think about it. In light of what I just said, it could happen. Not if you don't say anything.
BTW, It wouldn't make a difference anyway if it did come out. I am never getting rid of my FD and would love to have a new one sitting right next to it. What is with everyone going "imagine what would happen to the value of the car".
Are you gonna sell it? if your trying to keep value by owning this car, I am laughing.
BTW, It wouldn't make a difference anyway if it did come out. I am never getting rid of my FD and would love to have a new one sitting right next to it. What is with everyone going "imagine what would happen to the value of the car".
Are you gonna sell it? if your trying to keep value by owning this car, I am laughing.
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Here's my 2 cents. I'd love for them to bring it back, but I can't see mazda ever again making another car as gorgeous as the FD RX7. If they do bring it back, I probably won't buy one (at least not for a while) but I just think it's something Mazda needs to do.
They should offer increased displacement (1.4-1.5L) N/A and Turbo engine options, keep the weight down (28-2900ish) keep the damn gizmos down (DSC, TC, etc), and keep the price under $40K.
Finally, they need to also have an R1 version.
They should offer increased displacement (1.4-1.5L) N/A and Turbo engine options, keep the weight down (28-2900ish) keep the damn gizmos down (DSC, TC, etc), and keep the price under $40K.
Finally, they need to also have an R1 version.
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Here's my 2 cents. I'd love for them to bring it back, but I can't see mazda ever again making another car as gorgeous as the FD RX7. If they do bring it back, I probably won't buy one (at least not for a while) but I just think it's something Mazda needs to do.
They should offer increased displacement (1.4-1.5L) N/A and Turbo engine options, keep the weight down (28-2900ish) keep the damn gizmos down (DSC, TC, etc), and keep the price under $40K.
Finally, they need to also have an R1 version.
They should offer increased displacement (1.4-1.5L) N/A and Turbo engine options, keep the weight down (28-2900ish) keep the damn gizmos down (DSC, TC, etc), and keep the price under $40K.
Finally, they need to also have an R1 version.
I hope they don't release a new 7. Now, a factory 3 rotor 8 I would like to see.
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Originally Posted by sonix7
What is with everyone going "imagine what would happen to the value of the car".
Are you gonna sell it? if your trying to keep value by owning this car, I am laughing.
Are you gonna sell it? if your trying to keep value by owning this car, I am laughing.
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Well, I just had this conversation with a key exec in Detroit. You all are over looking something very important. 2 Seater sports cars don't make jack **** for revenue compared to the huge market segments like the Honda Accord.
Take the history of the 7. countless engine failures. Only a hand full left have the original engine. Would a new car overcome this history? Would not every perspective buyer question the reliability of another turbocharged rotary?
You all are aware that the volumes went from ~ 6000 to 3000 to 500. What does that tell you? With shipping and delivery and cost, the car wouldn't have $5000 to $10,000 margin left in it when it hit the shores of America. If they could sell another 500 cars for example, would $5,000,000 anual profit provide any reasonable return on ivestment? I imagine the investment to build a new TT 7, with current emissions, is on the order of $100,000,000. For sure it wouldn't be much cheaper than that.
It is FAR more feasable to build a new two seater (keep in mind the market is small) and give it a name that would not require the marketers to overturn the bad reputation of reliability.
I figure you could call the new FE3S the RX-S or RX-T or something different. Make a two seater with parallel twin turbos, and compete heads ups with the Z06. Don't think it would be cheap. You would need premium pricing to make up for the low volumes. It would have to be a luxury sports car because the market is **** poor. You would have to make money, or get out of the kitchen.
Take the history of the 7. countless engine failures. Only a hand full left have the original engine. Would a new car overcome this history? Would not every perspective buyer question the reliability of another turbocharged rotary?
You all are aware that the volumes went from ~ 6000 to 3000 to 500. What does that tell you? With shipping and delivery and cost, the car wouldn't have $5000 to $10,000 margin left in it when it hit the shores of America. If they could sell another 500 cars for example, would $5,000,000 anual profit provide any reasonable return on ivestment? I imagine the investment to build a new TT 7, with current emissions, is on the order of $100,000,000. For sure it wouldn't be much cheaper than that.
It is FAR more feasable to build a new two seater (keep in mind the market is small) and give it a name that would not require the marketers to overturn the bad reputation of reliability.
I figure you could call the new FE3S the RX-S or RX-T or something different. Make a two seater with parallel twin turbos, and compete heads ups with the Z06. Don't think it would be cheap. You would need premium pricing to make up for the low volumes. It would have to be a luxury sports car because the market is **** poor. You would have to make money, or get out of the kitchen.
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The thing is Mazda can and should do it. Honda made their S2000. I remember reading that at the start they only intended to produce it for the 2000 model year and expected to loose money on it. But they did it anyway. Here is a car company that introduced a product to America that was completely different from everything else they sold here for the past 30 years, and they made it work. The S200 is proof that a new 2 seater rotary sport can make money.
I too think that the RX-7 name is dead... it needs to be something else like RX Sport or whatever, something to show that its different from the RX8, but still carry that RX rotaryness. The FD is an excellent car but I don't think Mazda should try to top it. What they should do is make something that is just as good. Something with classic sports car lines and shocking performance.
Really...besides the S2000 when is the last time you have heard a Japanese cars performance described as shocking? The 350Z isn't shocking, neither is the STI or Evo just hopped up sedans they are. Toyota is scared to produce anything more then boring. I see a market hole here, we just need to be sure Mazda sees it too.
I too think that the RX-7 name is dead... it needs to be something else like RX Sport or whatever, something to show that its different from the RX8, but still carry that RX rotaryness. The FD is an excellent car but I don't think Mazda should try to top it. What they should do is make something that is just as good. Something with classic sports car lines and shocking performance.
Really...besides the S2000 when is the last time you have heard a Japanese cars performance described as shocking? The 350Z isn't shocking, neither is the STI or Evo just hopped up sedans they are. Toyota is scared to produce anything more then boring. I see a market hole here, we just need to be sure Mazda sees it too.