3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002) 1993-2002 Discussion including performance modifications and Technical Support Sections.
Sponsored by:

dual oil coolers cheap

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 22, 2015 | 03:37 PM
  #201  
airjordan223's Avatar
brapbrapbrap
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 386
Likes: 2
From: Ohio
Originally Posted by Juan
Heres a quick diagram I made based on what Howard posted. I didnt list the hose lengths because I forgot what the actual measurements were but my lines ended up being much shorter than Howard's measurements. I bought 10 feet or hose and had plenty left over.

This should be much easier to understand for people having a hard time with this mod.



Hey guys I'm about to add a second oil cooler (oem driver mounted on the passenger side) and I just had a fundamental question regarding the oil coolers and the thermostat.

So the thermostat opens when it is above a certain temp. So what happens when the first cooler opens, cools the oil, then goes to the second cooler, but is now below the thermostat temp, and it remains closed? Is there another return line that is not on this dwg?

I know this setup obviously works because so many people are running it, I'm trust trying to fully understand how it works.
Reply
Old Feb 22, 2015 | 07:53 PM
  #202  
CrimsonPride's Avatar
Senior Member
Tenured Member: 15 Years
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 541
Likes: 6
From: B'ham, AL
There is a thermostat in each cooler. All they do is close (when oil is hot enough) a shunt passage in the cooler port block that acts as a bypass when the oil is below temp. When tstat open (oil not hot enough) the oil just flows from one line, through the shunt passage, into the other and exits. It is possible at times that oil is hot enough to close the tstat in the first cooler but not the second.

The thermostat as the oil gets hotter lengthens and a disk on the end of it closes off the bypass. That's all it does.
Reply
Old Aug 24, 2015 | 08:48 AM
  #203  
ATX-RX's Avatar
Full Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 131
Likes: 0
From: Austin tx
Just purchased all the bits and gibblets to do this!!! Looking forward to making it work!
Reply
Old Aug 24, 2015 | 06:20 PM
  #204  
GodSquadMandrake's Avatar
Radioactive Rotary Rocket
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,061
Likes: 1
From: Minneapolis, MN
Originally Posted by ATX-RX
Just purchased all the bits and gibblets to do this!!! Looking forward to making it work!
It's a very worthwhile mod especially for your climate.
Reply
Old Jun 9, 2016 | 11:18 PM
  #205  
connor.'s Avatar
Junior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 31
Likes: 2
From: Bend OR
Does anyone here have pics of their dual driver side oil cooler setup?

How did you mount the cooler to the pass side?
Reply
Old Jun 10, 2016 | 12:00 PM
  #206  
TomU's Avatar
It Just Feels Right
Tenured Member 05 Years
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 2,238
Likes: 349
From: Arlington, VA
Originally Posted by connor.
Does anyone here have pics of their dual driver side oil cooler setup?

How did you mount the cooler to the pass side?
If you are talking aftermarket coolers, these work great

Banzai Racing Oil Cooler Bracket Kit (93+ RX-7)
Reply
Old Jun 10, 2016 | 12:25 PM
  #207  
cewrx7r1's Avatar
Eye In The Sky
Tenured Member: 25 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 7,941
Likes: 132
From: In A Disfunctional World
Remember that in winter you most likely need to totally block one oil cooler to prevent your oil from being too cold!

I have to do this even down here in Houston with the stock R1 coolers.
Reply
Old Jun 10, 2016 | 02:03 PM
  #208  
TomU's Avatar
It Just Feels Right
Tenured Member 05 Years
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 2,238
Likes: 349
From: Arlington, VA
Originally Posted by cewrx7r1
Remember that in winter you most likely need to totally block one oil cooler to prevent your oil from being too cold!

I have to do this even down here in Houston with the stock R1 coolers.
Don't the stock coolers have an integrated T-stat?

For aftermarket, you could devise a multiple T-stat system. I run dual 25's in series off a single 185F T-stat. The oil temps are fairly digital. Once it hit's 185, bam! the temps drop significantly then creep back up to 185 when the process starts all over.
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2016 | 04:55 PM
  #209  
connor.'s Avatar
Junior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 31
Likes: 2
From: Bend OR
Has anyone put an aftermarket cooler on the passanger side and kept the stock cooler on the driver side? I'm debating if i want to get r1 coolers or not. And as much as kits like the banzai kit, Its just too much money for me.
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2016 | 06:12 PM
  #210  
Johnny Kommavongsa's Avatar
Moderator
Tenured Member: 10 Years
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 1
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 1,528
Likes: 239
^ I havent but used a rx8 oil cooler which is like $75 used and made my own lines. I got ducts for them and they worked great a the last track event.
Reply
Old Nov 23, 2016 | 01:42 PM
  #211  
NJ-JDM's Avatar
Senior Member
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 294
Likes: 6
From: Trenton NJ
Originally Posted by Juan
Heres a quick diagram I made based on what Howard posted. I didnt list the hose lengths because I forgot what the actual measurements were but my lines ended up being much shorter than Howard's measurements. I bought 10 feet or hose and had plenty left over.

This should be much easier to understand for people having a hard time with this mod.




I'd like to tackle this mod over the winter, but I have a question. If you are using an extra drivers side cooler on the passenger side (as shown in the above diagram), wouldn't the input to the PSide cooler be the position numbered #4? and not #3. I didn't see anything definitive in the thread saying you can route the oil through either fitting on the cooler and still have the thermostat function as intended.

Thanks
Reply
Old Jan 24, 2017 | 09:48 PM
  #212  
bpdchief's Avatar
Full Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 204
Likes: 3
From: New Mexico
I'm doing this. Howard's pics don't show anymore. Trying to confirm that 18x1.5 steel screws into front conver where oil supply to current cooler is. Then 150 8an attaches to that? Can someone post up a pic or confirm? Also, why not keep the banjo bolt from that fitting and use this and a 45?
Reply
Old Jan 28, 2017 | 12:43 PM
  #213  
DaveW's Avatar
Racecar - Formula 2000
Tenured Member: 20 Years
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 4,027
Likes: 366
From: Bath, OH
Originally Posted by NJ-JDM
I'd like to tackle this mod over the winter, but I have a question. If you are using an extra drivers side cooler on the passenger side (as shown in the above diagram), wouldn't the input to the PSide cooler be the position numbered #4? and not #3. I didn't see anything definitive in the thread saying you can route the oil through either fitting on the cooler and still have the thermostat function as intended.

Thanks
Switching 3 & 4 would not change anything. The cooler works/flows the same either way. Reversing the pass-side cooler flow in the diagram you posted will not change the oil flow from or to the engine or through the thermostat.
Reply
Old Jan 31, 2017 | 12:38 PM
  #214  
bpdchief's Avatar
Full Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 204
Likes: 3
From: New Mexico
Can anyone post of current pics since Coleman's are gone? I have all the fittings and I'm ready to start on this.
Reply
Old Feb 3, 2017 | 12:16 PM
  #215  
bpdchief's Avatar
Full Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 204
Likes: 3
From: New Mexico
Anyone with pics?
Reply
Old Feb 3, 2017 | 12:41 PM
  #216  
NJ-JDM's Avatar
Senior Member
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 294
Likes: 6
From: Trenton NJ
Originally Posted by bpdchief
Anyone with pics?
I plan to document what I end up doing, just haven't started yet.
Reply
Old Feb 21, 2017 | 08:12 AM
  #217  
NJ-JDM's Avatar
Senior Member
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 294
Likes: 6
From: Trenton NJ
I snapped a few pics of my progress. There are no active photographs on this thread showing the stock DS cooler mounted on the PS.

Is what I have done so far pleasing to the eye? No. Is it mounted securely? Yes. I will trim the excess metal on the brackets once I have everything plumbed and tested.

The mounting points on the cooler look to be spot welded on and I wasn't going to chance damaging the cooler or causing a leak by drilling them out to remove the factory brackets. But there is not much else on the cooler to secure new mounts. I do not want to attempt welding to the cooler, but I know others have.

The rear hanger on the back seems to work as is, though the bracket I had was mangled a little before I straightened it out.

I was able to use a 3/4" hole saw to make the holes to use the factory rubber isolators.

I have some additional SS hardware still to incorporate, the self tappers are there just for mock up. So far all the measurements I have taken indicate I am really close to where I need to be. Will put the stock bumper back on this week and check location against the openings. I ordered the R-magic 99 ducts, so I have a few more weeks to wait either way.













Reply
Old Feb 21, 2017 | 12:29 PM
  #218  
bpdchief's Avatar
Full Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 204
Likes: 3
From: New Mexico
^^^ Looks good so far. Keep us posted. Thanks for the pics!
Reply
Old Feb 22, 2017 | 08:11 AM
  #219  
Howard Coleman's Avatar
Thread Starter
Racing Rotary Since 1983
Tenured Member: 20 Years
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 6,279
Likes: 724
From: Florence, Alabama
NJ-JDM,

thanks for helping out on the thread.

Howard
Reply
Old Feb 22, 2017 | 08:23 AM
  #220  
NJ-JDM's Avatar
Senior Member
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 294
Likes: 6
From: Trenton NJ
Originally Posted by Howard Coleman CPR
NJ-JDM,

thanks for helping out on the thread.

Howard
No problem. Just trying to give back for all of the information I have absorbed over the last two years.
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2017 | 04:57 PM
  #221  
fc3schick87's Avatar
Rotary Addiction
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 584
Likes: 1
From: san antonio TX
thank you for keeping this alive! and here's to 10 years of this thread
Reply
Old May 12, 2017 | 07:14 PM
  #222  
NJ-JDM's Avatar
Senior Member
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 294
Likes: 6
From: Trenton NJ
For anyone out there who has gone the route of adding S/S screen mentioned in the first couple of pages, how did you keep it in place? Did you safety wire it directly to the cooler? Or maybe to the bumper cover?

I am going to be running a 99 bumper and I have R-magic cooler ducts that will be bolted to the coolers. I am considering forming it over the end of the duct and using epoxy to affix the screen to the fiberglass duct. Another way to go would be to cut 'slots' in the screen and slip it over the tabs on the cooler that the ducts attach to. But I think not having it float or rub against the cooler directly is prob a better way to go.

Will post some pics and other updates very soon.
Reply
Old May 14, 2017 | 05:22 PM
  #223  
quichedem's Avatar
Senior Member
Tenured Member: 10 Years
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 646
Likes: 121
From: United States
For track days, or similar use, has anyone here just gotten a small diameter fan on the single stock oil cooler? I'm planning on doing exactly that.
Reply
Old May 20, 2017 | 10:05 PM
  #224  
NJ-JDM's Avatar
Senior Member
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 294
Likes: 6
From: Trenton NJ
I'll just start off with this. For whatever reason, I thought I needed to pull the AC/PS bracket in order to get enough clearance to pull the banjo fitting off the front cover. I pulled the PS pump and had the AC comp loose before I even tried to unbolt the banjo. Guess what, it came right out. I have read this and other cooler threads over and over, not sure why I even thought that was necessary. The learning curve is so steep on these cars, like nothing else I have ever owned.

My order came in from BAT. Cost was roughly $190 shipped. 8 ft of line. I had them install two of the fittings on the full 8ft. Then I cut it to length and installed the last two.







The stainless screen. It is pretty stiff and not that easy to work with. You need tin snips. I got them sized right and I have them cut down so they just fit snugly between the duct tabs. With the R-magic ducts bolted on, it all fits together pretty nicely.






Now, the 90 degree fitting coming off the front cover. I am not likely this approach, maybe others have just gone with it. At this angle, the AN line needs to run behind the lower rad hose and over the hardline on the steering rack. I was hoping it was going to fall under the cross brace which is where I was going to run the line from the left cooler to the right. I am considering getting a 45 degree fitting, that would get it heading in the right direction and then I could just use the line to complete the turn.



Front bumper skin mock up. The OEM piece fits well so far. I have no doubt the body shop will be able to get all the gaps just right.









Last edited by NJ-JDM; May 20, 2017 at 10:11 PM.
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:35 PM.