dual oil coolers cheap
If your pressure changes at all it should be due to the drop in temperature, in which case it will increase. That's my understanding at least. Anyone have an opinion on running -10 lines vs -8. I'm just curious if running the -8 lines will slow anything down. Doesn't the system use -10 lines stock?
There are 7 pages on this thread. Which page is the write up on? Too lazy to go there all of them.
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10AN Mocal Oil Thermostat
Please excuse me if this is off topic, but this may be a useful/additional information for people here asking thermostat questions. Also, I don't have enough posts to start a new thread.
I installed CWR Dual Oil Coolers (http://www.negative-camber.org/crispyrx7/cwrcoolers.htm) ~10 years ago, and it’s been leaking ever since. I recently had all of the lines and fittings replaced, and relocated the thermostat to isolate it from vibrations and get rid of the failure prone 90degree fitting (L-shaped bracket). The 10AN Mocal Remote Oil Thermostat still leaks. Fittings there were re-tightened, and still leaking.
I’ve heard some of the castings of that thermostat were bad and leaked. I’ve also heard it fails in a manner that cuts off flow to the coolers. Does anyone have any bad experiences with it? Can anyone recommend another brand?
I installed CWR Dual Oil Coolers (http://www.negative-camber.org/crispyrx7/cwrcoolers.htm) ~10 years ago, and it’s been leaking ever since. I recently had all of the lines and fittings replaced, and relocated the thermostat to isolate it from vibrations and get rid of the failure prone 90degree fitting (L-shaped bracket). The 10AN Mocal Remote Oil Thermostat still leaks. Fittings there were re-tightened, and still leaking.
I’ve heard some of the castings of that thermostat were bad and leaked. I’ve also heard it fails in a manner that cuts off flow to the coolers. Does anyone have any bad experiences with it? Can anyone recommend another brand?
Please excuse me if this is off topic, but this may be a useful/additional information for people here asking thermostat questions. Also, I don't have enough posts to start a new thread.
I installed CWR Dual Oil Coolers (http://www.negative-camber.org/crispyrx7/cwrcoolers.htm) ~10 years ago, and it’s been leaking ever since. I recently had all of the lines and fittings replaced, and relocated the thermostat to isolate it from vibrations and get rid of the failure prone 90degree fitting (L-shaped bracket). The 10AN Mocal Remote Oil Thermostat still leaks. Fittings there were re-tightened, and still leaking.
I’ve heard some of the castings of that thermostat were bad and leaked. I’ve also heard it fails in a manner that cuts off flow to the coolers. Does anyone have any bad experiences with it? Can anyone recommend another brand?
I installed CWR Dual Oil Coolers (http://www.negative-camber.org/crispyrx7/cwrcoolers.htm) ~10 years ago, and it’s been leaking ever since. I recently had all of the lines and fittings replaced, and relocated the thermostat to isolate it from vibrations and get rid of the failure prone 90degree fitting (L-shaped bracket). The 10AN Mocal Remote Oil Thermostat still leaks. Fittings there were re-tightened, and still leaking.
I’ve heard some of the castings of that thermostat were bad and leaked. I’ve also heard it fails in a manner that cuts off flow to the coolers. Does anyone have any bad experiences with it? Can anyone recommend another brand?
As far as it failing goes, I beleive Mocal should easily be able to answer that question. Try calling them.
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just a gee whiz type post....
i just ordered my lines and fittings from BAT inc ( http://www.batinc.net/mocal-central.htm ) and heres a snapshot of my invoice. this is for stock oil coolers to change the stock lines to PUSH ON fittings and hose. i cross matched the part numbers from XLR8's list.
i just ordered my lines and fittings from BAT inc ( http://www.batinc.net/mocal-central.htm ) and heres a snapshot of my invoice. this is for stock oil coolers to change the stock lines to PUSH ON fittings and hose. i cross matched the part numbers from XLR8's list.
Are the two ports on the stock cooler designated as inflow and outflow ports? If so, the diagram Wan made on post 80 is incorrect if you want to use the driver side cooler. Should be 1 to 4 and 3 to front cover. See fig 2 on the attached diagram.
Let me know this is true or not.
Let me know this is true or not.
So why is no one commenting about this anymore? If it's true that it matters which direction the oil flows into and out of each oil cooler, Howard's plumbing is wrong. It should be like the lower drawing in the pic attached.
My push on hoses havent leaked and I'm not using a clamp on them. Never had an issue on the street or while beating on the car all day at the track. My first setup from 2008 used Summit racing hose and fittings which never leaked. Roughly two years later, I upgraded the passenger oil cooler to a Setrab cooler and used push on fittings from BAT Inc with hose from Jegs. I'm still running the latter setup and havent had an issue with a leaky fitting to this day.
As promised. This will completely replace all OEM lines with SS line & AN fittings using the OEM oil coolers. No fitment issues with A/C. Be sure to cover the SS lines with plastic loom at possible rub points.
British American Transfer
OIL COOLER FITTINGS………………………………………..........................P ART#............PRICE
4.... Male 22 MM X1.5 MM metric concave seat -10 AN aluminum...AM22AN10......12.95--- 51.80
13 ft -10 aeroquip line.............................................. .................FC3-10..............6.50---84.50
2.... 45 degree alu -10 hose end............................................... ....T45-10.............18.75---37.50
2.... straight alu -10 hose end............................................... ........TS-10.................8.95---17.90
1.... male 18 MM X 1.5 Metric concave seat to -10 AN steel...........AM18AN10.........9.85
2.... 90 degree alum -10 hose end............................................... .T90-10.............37.50
1.... "Metric Banjo -AN Male"............................................. .............BJ1810M..........30.15
1.... banjo bolt.............................................. .................................BJBM18........... .11.90
2.... seals............................................. ..........................................DS-M18................80--- 1.60
$282.70
British American Transfer
OIL COOLER FITTINGS………………………………………..........................P ART#............PRICE
4.... Male 22 MM X1.5 MM metric concave seat -10 AN aluminum...AM22AN10......12.95--- 51.80
13 ft -10 aeroquip line.............................................. .................FC3-10..............6.50---84.50
2.... 45 degree alu -10 hose end............................................... ....T45-10.............18.75---37.50
2.... straight alu -10 hose end............................................... ........TS-10.................8.95---17.90
1.... male 18 MM X 1.5 Metric concave seat to -10 AN steel...........AM18AN10.........9.85
2.... 90 degree alum -10 hose end............................................... .T90-10.............37.50
1.... "Metric Banjo -AN Male"............................................. .............BJ1810M..........30.15
1.... banjo bolt.............................................. .................................BJBM18........... .11.90
2.... seals............................................. ..........................................DS-M18................80--- 1.60
$282.70
Since I'm on a budget, I'm just gonna get the hose and fittings necessary to retrofit the driver's side oil cooler to the passenger side. Here's what I came up with using XLR8's list: (I'm going to use the banjo fitting at the block because I have A/C)
3.... Male 22 MM X1.5 MM metric concave seat -10 AN aluminum...AM22AN10......12.95--- 25.90 2 for pass side oil cooler, 1 for driver's side inlet
10 ft -10 aeroquip line.............................................. .................FC3-10..............6.50---65.00
1.... 45 degree alu -10 hose end............................................... ....T45-10.............18.75---37.50 just one for driver's side inlet
1.... straight alu -10 hose end............................................... ........TS-10.................8.95---17.90 for driver's side inlet
1.... male 18 MM X 1.5 Metric concave seat to -10 AN steel...........AM18AN10.........9.85 For block
2.... 90 degree alum -10 hose end............................................... .T90-10.............37.50 ?????
1.... "Metric Banjo -AN Male"............................................. .............BJ1810M..........30.15 banjo fitting
1.... banjo bolt.............................................. .................................BJBM18........... .11.90 banjo bolt
2.... seals............................................. ..........................................DS-M18................0.80--- 1.60 banjo washers
Is there something I missed or something that's not needed that I left in there?
Last edited by SpooledFD3S; Apr 4, 2013 at 05:01 PM.
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3.... Male 22 MM X1.5 MM metric concave seat -10 AN aluminum...AM22AN10......12.95--- 25.90 2 for pass side oil cooler, 1 for driver's side inlet
10 ft -10 aeroquip line.............................................. .................FC3-10..............6.50---65.00
2.... 45 degree alu -10 hose end............................................... ....T45-10.............18.75---37.50 for pass side oil cooler inlet/outlet
1.... straight alu -10 hose end............................................... ........TS-10.................8.95---17.90 for driver's side inlet
1.... male 18 MM X 1.5 Metric concave seat to -10 AN steel...........AM18AN10.........9.85 For block
2.... 90 degree alum -10 hose end............................................... .T90-10.............37.50 For banjo fitting?????
1.... "Metric Banjo -AN Male"............................................. .............BJ1810M..........30.15 banjo fitting
1.... banjo bolt.............................................. .................................BJBM18........... .11.90 banjo bolt
2.... seals............................................. ..........................................DS-M18................0.80--- 1.60 banjo washers
I'm guessing I would only need 1 "90 degree alum -10 hose end" for the banjo fitting at the block?
3.... Male 22 MM X1.5 MM metric concave seat -10 AN aluminum...AM22AN10......12.95--- 25.90 2 for pass side oil cooler, 1 for driver's side inlet
10 ft -10 aeroquip line.............................................. .................FC3-10..............6.50---65.00
2.... 45 degree alu -10 hose end............................................... ....T45-10.............18.75---37.50 for pass side oil cooler inlet/outlet
1.... straight alu -10 hose end............................................... ........TS-10.................8.95---17.90 for driver's side inlet
1.... male 18 MM X 1.5 Metric concave seat to -10 AN steel...........AM18AN10.........9.85 For block
2.... 90 degree alum -10 hose end............................................... .T90-10.............37.50 For banjo fitting?????
1.... "Metric Banjo -AN Male"............................................. .............BJ1810M..........30.15 banjo fitting
1.... banjo bolt.............................................. .................................BJBM18........... .11.90 banjo bolt
2.... seals............................................. ..........................................DS-M18................0.80--- 1.60 banjo washers
I'm guessing I would only need 1 "90 degree alum -10 hose end" for the banjo fitting at the block?
Last edited by SpooledFD3S; Apr 4, 2013 at 05:14 PM.
My setup has been working well for a few years. Flow is as follows.
Standing in front of the car. Oil flows from block at the filter, to the drivers cooler right port, from the drivers cooler left port to the passenger cooler right port, from the passenger cooler left port to the front cover.
Again, right and left orientation is from facing the car and the coolers in their fixed position.
Standing in front of the car. Oil flows from block at the filter, to the drivers cooler right port, from the drivers cooler left port to the passenger cooler right port, from the passenger cooler left port to the front cover.
Again, right and left orientation is from facing the car and the coolers in their fixed position.
that bad lol plus i leaked oil on peoples car during the caravan =(
My push on hoses havent leaked and I'm not using a clamp on them. Never had an issue on the street or while beating on the car all day at the track. My first setup from 2008 used Summit racing hose and fittings which never leaked. Roughly two years later, I upgraded the passenger oil cooler to a Setrab cooler and used push on fittings from BAT Inc with hose from Jegs. I'm still running the latter setup and havent had an issue with a leaky fitting to this day.
My setup has been working well for a few years. Flow is as follows.
Standing in front of the car. Oil flows from block at the filter, to the drivers cooler right port, from the drivers cooler left port to the passenger cooler right port, from the passenger cooler left port to the front cover.
Again, right and left orientation is from facing the car and the coolers in their fixed position.
Standing in front of the car. Oil flows from block at the filter, to the drivers cooler right port, from the drivers cooler left port to the passenger cooler right port, from the passenger cooler left port to the front cover.
Again, right and left orientation is from facing the car and the coolers in their fixed position.
XLR8: why did you need 2 of these? I'm guessing 1 for the oil oulet at the block and the other for the oil inlet at the block?
2.... 90 degree alum -10 hose end............................................... .T90-10.............37.50
Not so cheap anymore 
2.... 90 degree alum -10 hose end............................................... .T90-10.............37.50
i am also curious where you are all getting your coolers for $50.... im in need of another oil cooler and i really dont want to go and spend 850-1k for a kit. max id want to spend would be around 500 so this diy seems within my budget.