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Old 03-22-02, 08:45 PM
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does this make sense?

Took my car to Mazdatrix for 30k tuneup, and compression test. They found a whole bunch of other stuff, so my bill ended up being $2200+. Compression was 8.+ all the way around. The weird thing is my car is at 113k miles.
A couple days go by, and the only thing I could complain about was low idle. Then I take my car out for a 2 min drive then park. 3 days later car wont start. Ok, so flooded right? I unflooded and nothing worked. I towed my car to tripoint (closest place), and now they say it wont start cause the coolant is getting on the plugs. So my O-Rings went right?
I can accept that, and pony up the dough when I get it, but what does it sound right to you guys?
Damn that $2000+ shoulda just went straight to a rebuild!!! My bad luck. Anyway thanks for any help you can offer.
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Hmm, no that don't sound right to me. Any more details?
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Well, that is damn shitty. Sounds like Mazdatrix had their heads up their ***. Your apex seals can be in perfect condition and your cooling seals can go. You can have a bad engine with good compression. Sucks for you though.

Maybe if you talk to Mazdatrix, you can work out an agreement, if you trust them to rebuild your engine at this point.
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This is why I work on my own car. Check the dip stick. Is there coolant on it? It may look a bit whitish and not like oil if something is wrong. Water and oil don't mix, so moisture droplets would show up.
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I flooded my car and it took a week to get it started! not to mention alot of trouble shooting and yes I have the manual and tried to deflood it several times before it ever did start. Never happened again since.
Same as what sounds like happend to you. I only let my car run 5 sec to move it, turned if off, came out that night to go for a spin and It would not even try to start. (like it wasnt getting spark)
That was the first and last time I ever started it with out letting it warm up before turning it off.
With the high miles on your car sounds like it could or least should be new motor time, but I would hook it up to a charger and crank it like hell before forking out 3k for what could be just a flooded engine. Like I said it took a week for mine to start and a lot of cranking. Good Luck!
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I'll, I personally dont think Mazdatrix did anything to cause it, they are pretty reputable.
Yea it's like I'm getting no spark, u guys have ideas?
Part of me thinks TriPoint is wrong. I have no other details, I'm going to tow my car from tripoint and get an explanation from them on monday.
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damn, bad move though

You should have sucked up the tow bill and went back to MazdaTrix. Now you are going to have two shops pointing the finger with one hand and giving you the bill with the other!
MazdaTrix TriPoint

If you can just pay for the inspection whatever at TriPoint, pay em and get it out. Get the 100mi AAA-plus (you'll have to wait a week to use it though) and tow it to MazdaTrix. Call Joh ASAP and let him know you need to bring it in.
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Exclamation $2,200 tune up?

Can you please post what they found or replaced or what happened at MazdaTrix? How did you even get an appointment anyhow? That sounds more like a nightmare Mazda dealer story.

OK, i'm ready for my bill now...
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Oh yea it's just for inspection at tripoint. I can post all that stuff. All my reciepts are in the car. No one can point the finger at anybody. Tripoint didnt do anything but see what happened. And Mazdatrix can just tell me that its a result of having a 113k mile engine. I want to make it clear that I'm not implying either of them messed up my car. The only thing I'm thinking about is whether there is a misdiagnosis here. TRipoint told me they'd explain it when go there to pick it up

John at Trix is a cool respectable guy. I got an appointment by asking. The tune up was only $400, but there were leaks everywhere on the car the previous owner did not take care off. I can list them when I get the invoice out of my car.
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I didn't mean to imply that Mazdatrix had done anything to screw the car up, I was simply stating that they did this big check-up on the car and didn't discover any of the signs of the coolant seals going. If that is what is happening, I think it reflects poorly on them that they didn't discover it.
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Ryn: I was mostly talking to GoRacer about his comment on the two shops playing the blame game.

But, yea thats the same stuff my friends are saying. But can it - a failing o-ring- be diagnosed? I'm not sure, if it can, then yes it does reflect negatively on them.
I'm more distraught because I used my $2.5k emergency fund on that repair. So now I got a few hundred in my emergency fund, so it looks like my car is out of commision for a while.
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wow, he must be way overworked!

John has been telling me to come back in 3 weeks for 6 months. At least he diagnoses it for free for me though. He's even done it over the phone.

My friend took his auto there for a turbo boost prob. He looked under the hood, listened for 30 sec and told him a stud broke off ...come back in 3 weeks.

So he then takes it to Tri-Point, doesn't tell them what John said. They completely take the turbo apart and a week later tell him it was the stud but here's your $1,600 bill for rebuilding the turbos.
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hehe yea John is pretty damn good.
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