Xeros

Has anyone ever thought of converting thier large or medium ASP IC into a V mount? I was just thinking about it and was wondering if anyone tried to mock up thier own V mount with a stock mount like that? Why I ask, becasue I want to get an ASP IC but I would also later down the line like to go with a v mount set up but not spend so much cash on a new set up.

Xeros

badddrx7

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The ASP large is one of the very best IC's out there, does a fine job in vertical form. I have not see one converted to a V-mount ever ( not that it can't be done if you want to put some $$ into it ).

Tom

the_glass_man

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Why?

Spirit_Rotary_7

I don't see why it would not be possible but the ASP large ic might be a little too large for a v-mount configuration.. you have to think that the radiator and the intercooler will have to properly fit and be at a correct angle for efficiency of both. Not to mention the mass amounts of custom fabrication

Mikey M.

Spirit_Rotary_7

by the time you have it working right.. you will regret not buying a vmount to begin with

maxcooper

On a positive note, ASP ICs have good resale value if you decide to sell it and buy a pre-fabbed v-mount setup.

-Max

spekdah

working right?? Jeezus you all dont really think its that hard do you? I found the trick to a decent V-mount setup is in finding a radiator that best suits your IC. I have been FMIC ,FlatMIC and V-mount and it really wasnt that hard to change, not as much fabrication as people make out , you just need a good amount ( or at least a readily source ) of 90 , 45 degree bends with a few straights, once you have your Radiator sorted ( fitted) you just need to worry about your IC Flat-fitted, then work your bends out from there and cut them to fit, really quite basic stuff.

BTW - after using all three I found FMIC was the best, thats why I went back to it.

swilson@assetworks.com

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As reinforcement to what Spekdah posted. I am convinced that the relocation of the radiator as well as the AC and power steering stuff is the biggest chalenge in developing you own V-Mount. Mounting the IC and making the IC pipes will be a breeze in comparison.

Of course you can go hardcore and ditch the AC and PS and find a good radiator and Fan setup that fits as this will make the job a little less challenging as well as allowing you to fit a monster radiatior and IC

Xeros

Hmm well what about a Medium ASP IC? And woudl I really have to relocate the PS? I've already eliminated the dead weight of an AC and blower, but why the PS? It doesn't seem like it would. Why I ask Glass man, is becasue I figure over time when I get a single turbo set up I will need more air to the IC and radiator as well but I dont wanna deal with the hassel of a FMIC and its freaking piping. Needless to say though piping the radiator will probably be just as much of a hassel right? Then again I was reading a post lastnight and I ran across this exact subject and the guy actually did it for liek 200 somehting dollars he said and cut some of the radiator hoses short? I wish that guy would reply to this post. I have a Koyo racing radiator 2 row. And I was wondering how the raditor would go in on the angle? As in the pipes form it facing out of the bay or into it?

Jason

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We have a car in the shop that the customer used a Greddy front mount and converted it to a vmount. Its a perfect fit with some minor fabrication. I will post some pics.

Jason

Xeros

kool thanks.

IOJINXOI

It would be alot cheaper to simply buy a core the size you want and fab the end tanks yourself. Of coarse this means you need to know how to weld.

Here are a few places you can pick up the cores and other parts from.

http://www.bellintercoolers.com/Pages/core.asp
http://www.cartech.net/intercoolers.htm

There are many other suppliers if you google.

Here is a link detailing the basic procedure of making an intercooler.

http://toyotaperformance.com/intercooler.htm



-D.

Kevin T. Wyum

I don't want to get into a debate over different IC types but I can tell you you're never going to exceed the capacity of even the medium ASP IC. I'm using my large ASP IC with a different end tank with two T04E/T3 hybrids on a half bridgeported motor. It should be in excess of 600hp. A front mount or v mount is not an upgrade of performance, just a different philosophy on how to order and divide air flow coming into the mouth of the car. The actual core size on most front mounts is smaller than my large IC with a lot more piping. Get the idea out of your head that the others are an upgrade. As for converting one, it wouldn't work too well because they're too tall to tip forward unless almost horizontal. As others have mentioned the fab work would be too much to justisy cutting it up when you can simply sell it to someone used for a good price.

Kevin T. Wyum

Xeros

See this is where a V mount vs SMIC, and FMIC argument comes in. It always seemed that the best way to get the maximum amoutn of air to both components without hindering air flow to the other was through a v mount, because niether of the components block each other form air? Though I suspect that the best set u with a V mount would a be a vented hood as well to allow a certain air flow through the engine compartment of the car? Where as you get a lot of trash talk about SMICs and FMIC for either over heating becasue of blocked air flow, or just not as much air flow to the intercooler as a FMIC when it comes to SMICs.

Kevin T. Wyum

For the SMIC vs FMIC vs VMIC debate use the search function here. It's been covered in great detail many many many many many many many many many times in the past.

Kevin T. Wyum

Xeros

Oh I know I was just sayin it would come in right about there.

moehler

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In all seriousness I don't think you'll see any real difference in air or water temps if you converted this IC to a V-mount. IMHO it would be a waste of time... a lot of fabrication for almost no improvement in performance. the ASP/M2 large IC's are as good as it gets for any "under the hood" IC's .

JRX

Have only driven the car for 2 weeks after it has been installed and have yet to see water temp go above 76 degrees (street) on the FC Commander. My Power FC is due for retune.

At the track (not in my car - but another FD with the same kit, TRUST radiator and vented bonnet) water temps did not exceed 90 degrees in November at TI circuit here in Japan. My car was running at about 105 degrees and started going up after about 10 laps (Standard intercooler, SARD radiator and vented bonnet).

Obviously there are a few other factors factors involved (cleared up engine bay etc) but it would seem that the overall combination has resulted in lower water and intake temps to a significant degree.

Just my experiences so far. Cannot comment on FMIC.

J.

Zero R

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Converted two of them and saw a noticable difference.

moehler

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^ Care to elaborate on that?

Xeros

Indeed

neit_jnf

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well??