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Old Jan 11, 2008 | 07:04 AM
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The car won't roll?

This is probably a stupid question, but the car will not roll. Three weeks ago I back the rear wheels on ramps the front was on jacks. Put the ebrake on; I then ripped out the engine/tranny etc etc. and the ABS and with master cylinder, pretty much everything.

Now yesterday I needed to move the car over in the garage to take the doors off to start prepping for paint. Took it down off the jacks, then my dad came over to help me push the car off the ramps. We can't budge the sucker, it wont move back or forward so obviously the rotors are locked.

I think the rotors just rusted to the brakes after having the ebrake on for so long; (also i know the ebrake cable loosened I checked on both sides). I just would think that with two of us pushing with basically no weight left the car we could have broke the rotors free??

Anything i'm missing here... really has me dumbfounded.
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Old Jan 11, 2008 | 07:24 AM
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how long has it been sitting. i think your pads are fused to your rotors
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Old Jan 11, 2008 | 07:46 AM
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how long has it been sitting. i think your pads are fused to your rotors

Three weeks (inside).

Thats what I think too which is not a big deal I just thought that we would have been able to break it free. I was just checking to see if I was stupid and there was something I wasnt thinking about.
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Old Jan 11, 2008 | 10:53 AM
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I have this problem every time my car is parked in the rain and the e-brake is on. I had to slip the clutch and break it free. It was not pretty. Took a few miles to wear the buildup off the rotors as well.

Now I never use the e-brake if the car is going to be parked more than a day or two. And yes my driveway is very flat.

If you can't "drive" it then you are going to have a hard time breaking them loose.
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Old Jan 11, 2008 | 12:13 PM
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use wd-40 and spray the pads and rotors it should penetrate between the pads and rotor and brake it free with a push
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Old Jan 11, 2008 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by revhardallday
use wd-40 and spray the pads and rotors it should penetrate between the pads and rotor and brake it free with a push


Yeah, I wasnt smart; last night i should have covered those pads in PB Blaster.
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Old Jan 11, 2008 | 01:33 PM
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Yeah, I wasnt smart; last night i should have covered those pads in PB Blaster.
Be careful with the high-powered penetrant - you can screw up the pads and/or the caliper piston seals.

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Old Jan 11, 2008 | 01:50 PM
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Be careful with the high-powered penetrant - you can screw up the pads and/or the caliper piston seals.

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Not worried, the cars getting a new brake system. Complete overhall on the car and my bank account.
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Old Jan 11, 2008 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by revhardallday
use wd-40 and spray the pads and rotors it should penetrate between the pads and rotor and brake it free with a push
Then throw the pads away as they will be useless once you do this. I've never ever seen in any automotive manual where they tell you it's a good idea to use any kind of lubricant on barke surfaces.
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Old Jan 11, 2008 | 10:32 PM
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Happens often when a car is left to sit for some time, especially when it is wet or moist out. I prefer to chock the wheels instead. I just put some muscle into it. Doing squats at the gym helps Don't spray anything on the pad surface. It will ruin them.
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 10:33 AM
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+eleventy on NOT spraying any lubricants onto brake surfaces.

I just can't imagine what caused your problem, if indeed it is seized rotors-to-pads.
My car was on jack stands for 2 and a half years and it didn't do this. In fact, the ONLY time I have ever witnessed it was on a old Toyota Tercel I was working on that sat outside for about 8 months and didn't move.
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 11:00 AM
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My car has been on the stands for over a year and a half, I jut went outside, released the ebrake, and the rears turned easily.
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 05:51 PM
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It won't happen unless you leave the e-brake on.
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 07:01 PM
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The pads were definatly locked to the rotors. I had to take the brakes off and hammer them off of the rotor. Just amazed that happend in 3 weeks inside a garage.
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by czwalga00gt
The pads were definatly locked to the rotors. I had to take the brakes off and hammer them off of the rotor. Just amazed that happend in 3 weeks inside a garage.
Wow...that is just crazy.
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by czwalga00gt
The pads were definatly locked to the rotors. I had to take the brakes off and hammer them off of the rotor. Just amazed that happend in 3 weeks inside a garage.
lots of moisture in a garage
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 12:18 PM
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Probably has alot to do with the composition of the brake pads, which would explain why it happens to some and not others.
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 01:11 PM
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My car has been sitting for about a month out side waiting for the turbos to be put back in and the hand brake is on Thats on my to do list tomorrow
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 12:50 PM
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take the rear tire and break off and take a rubber mallet to break the pads off. shouldnt take more than 30 mins for both sides
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