Boost issues, will Profec B solve?
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Boost issues, will Profec B solve?
I have been searching the archives for hours now, so I thought I would just give up and post.
I just put on my homemade cat-back with no muffler and am now getting boost spikes. My only other mod is the stock CAI air box mod w/ K&N drop in. My boost pattern for the 3rd gear pull is 13-14.5-9 to redline. It is similar in 2nd gear pulls also. Luckily it has been cold out, so my stock IC was hopefully enough to prevent engine damage.
I plan on autocrossing in the hot summer and will do some track days too. I need a rock-solid car for these events.
Here is my question that I have yet to find an answer. Will the Profec B solve both continuous boost and boost spikes? It looks like you only tap into the wastegate vacuum line and not the pre-control vacuum line w/ the Profec installation. For people with the Home Depot mod, they tap into both. So how could the Profec B fix both of my problems?
Will putting another stock BOV in parallel to my existing BOV also help? My local RX-7 expert gave me that advise. I am looking to stay inexpensive so a stock BOV in parallel and Home Depot solution would be ideal if it worked.
Oh, also, any idea what HP I could have been running with that boost pattern and the mods in my sig? Just curious. I know any boost control I do will just seem to make the car slower, but is better than a blown motor
I just put on my homemade cat-back with no muffler and am now getting boost spikes. My only other mod is the stock CAI air box mod w/ K&N drop in. My boost pattern for the 3rd gear pull is 13-14.5-9 to redline. It is similar in 2nd gear pulls also. Luckily it has been cold out, so my stock IC was hopefully enough to prevent engine damage.
I plan on autocrossing in the hot summer and will do some track days too. I need a rock-solid car for these events.
Here is my question that I have yet to find an answer. Will the Profec B solve both continuous boost and boost spikes? It looks like you only tap into the wastegate vacuum line and not the pre-control vacuum line w/ the Profec installation. For people with the Home Depot mod, they tap into both. So how could the Profec B fix both of my problems?
Will putting another stock BOV in parallel to my existing BOV also help? My local RX-7 expert gave me that advise. I am looking to stay inexpensive so a stock BOV in parallel and Home Depot solution would be ideal if it worked.
Oh, also, any idea what HP I could have been running with that boost pattern and the mods in my sig? Just curious. I know any boost control I do will just seem to make the car slower, but is better than a blown motor
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The Profec B and the power FC would both do a good job untill u get a midpipe, then u might run into problems, also, the FC would help for future mods.
However The new Blitz SBC-ID boost controller walks all over the profec B and Power FC when it comes to controlling boost. Im currently running that, and used to run a Profec B. I think it was mentioned somewhere that the Profec was a bit better at controlling spikes, but not anything else.
However The new Blitz SBC-ID boost controller walks all over the profec B and Power FC when it comes to controlling boost. Im currently running that, and used to run a Profec B. I think it was mentioned somewhere that the Profec was a bit better at controlling spikes, but not anything else.
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You are VERY VERY lucky your engine didnt go kaboom, or hit fuel cut. Fuel cut pre 6k rpms is 11.7 and u surpassed that by a ton, affter 6k rpms its 10.7 jeebus!!!!
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Re: Boost issues, will Profec B solve?
Originally posted by whitet777
Will the Profec B solve both continuous boost and boost spikes? It looks like you only tap into the wastegate vacuum line and not the pre-control vacuum line w/ the Profec installation.
Will the Profec B solve both continuous boost and boost spikes? It looks like you only tap into the wastegate vacuum line and not the pre-control vacuum line w/ the Profec installation.
Originally posted by whitet777
Will putting another stock BOV in parallel to my existing BOV also help? My local RX-7 expert gave me that advise.
Will putting another stock BOV in parallel to my existing BOV also help? My local RX-7 expert gave me that advise.
The Blitz may be better but it's a lot more money if you are in a crunch. The Profec B works fine for me and many others on the forum.
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Thanks for the advise guys. I take it most of you are against the manual controllers. What about the more expensive manual controllers?
Before my exhaust, I was running 12-12-10 all season with no ill effects. I guess 13-14.5-9 didn't sound that bad to me. I can thank the cold Milwaukee air for saving my engine.
Rynberg, thanks for putting me straight with my "expert".
Is there really any advantage to the fuzzy logic with some boost controllers? Can they really anticipate the wastegate delays?
Finally, when installing the Profec B, do you remove the secondary pre-spool pill?
Before my exhaust, I was running 12-12-10 all season with no ill effects. I guess 13-14.5-9 didn't sound that bad to me. I can thank the cold Milwaukee air for saving my engine.
Rynberg, thanks for putting me straight with my "expert".
Is there really any advantage to the fuzzy logic with some boost controllers? Can they really anticipate the wastegate delays?
Finally, when installing the Profec B, do you remove the secondary pre-spool pill?
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Originally posted by whitet777
Is there really any advantage to the fuzzy logic with some boost controllers? Can they really anticipate the wastegate delays?
Finally, when installing the Profec B, do you remove the secondary pre-spool pill?
Is there really any advantage to the fuzzy logic with some boost controllers? Can they really anticipate the wastegate delays?
Finally, when installing the Profec B, do you remove the secondary pre-spool pill?
If you are referring to the pre-control pill, you leave that and it's vacuum hose alone. The only hose you remove is the turbo to wastegate actuator hose. You will then plug the hose that ran from the wastegate actuator to the wastegate control solenoid and plug the opening on the wastegate actuator.
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Originally posted by Rx-7$4$me
You are VERY VERY lucky your engine didnt go kaboom, or hit fuel cut. Fuel cut pre 6k rpms is 11.7 and u surpassed that by a ton, affter 6k rpms its 10.7 jeebus!!!!
You are VERY VERY lucky your engine didnt go kaboom, or hit fuel cut. Fuel cut pre 6k rpms is 11.7 and u surpassed that by a ton, affter 6k rpms its 10.7 jeebus!!!!
I bet you're engine does give off a nice note now though.
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I am about ready to buy a Profec B. Thanks for the advise everyone.
And yes, my new exhaust sounds awesome. The slight backfire at shifts and throttle let-up make me feel like a Lemans racer. I am sure I will be dissapointed in the lower boost now.
And yes, my new exhaust sounds awesome. The slight backfire at shifts and throttle let-up make me feel like a Lemans racer. I am sure I will be dissapointed in the lower boost now.
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One thing - I bet you anything that in the hot weather you will not have any boost spike.
The cold air is the trouble. The thin hot air will probably not overwhelm the wastegate the same way.
The cold air is the trouble. The thin hot air will probably not overwhelm the wastegate the same way.
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One thing - I bet you anything that in the hot weather you will not have any boost spike.
The cold air is the trouble. The thin hot air will probably not overwhelm the wastegate the same way.
One thing - I bet you anything that in the hot weather you will not have any boost spike.
The cold air is the trouble. The thin hot air will probably not overwhelm the wastegate the same way.
As for the manual boost controler, don't bother. If you are really broke then go for it but if you can afford the Profec B then go for it...It's a real PIA to tune those things. Even if they get bumped in the engine bay 1/8th of a turn you are looking at a couple psi higher or lower. I am just saying this because I was messing with mine truing to iron out my boost from 10-8-10 with a small spike to 12. Now it's all over the place and I can't find exactly where I had it....Such is life I guess. I think I may end up going with the Blitz controler.
Good luck
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I bought the Profec B last night.
I was just thinking that the cold air kept the intercooler cooler and that is what prevented the detonation. I guess you guys may be right in thinking the other way in that the cold air is what created the problem in the first place.
What came first, the chicken or the egg?
I was just thinking that the cold air kept the intercooler cooler and that is what prevented the detonation. I guess you guys may be right in thinking the other way in that the cold air is what created the problem in the first place.
What came first, the chicken or the egg?
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