Which is a better short shifter,B&M or RE AMEMIYA??
07-13-07, 08:08 PM
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Which is a better short shifter,B&M or RE AMEMIYA??
Gonna purchase a short shifter this weekend and it came down to the B&m or the RE AMEMIYA shifter.If anyone has either could you let me know what you think,are they good or troublesome,or what you would recommend?they average the same price but jus wanna be sure!Thanks
07-13-07, 08:56 PM
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The RE-A shifter is basically the stock shifter with a little taken off the top. There's not much of a reduction with it. It really depends on the amount of shifting reduction you are looking for.. IMO, Mazdaspeed (and the replicas) has the best short shifter for the FD.
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That's apples and oranges. You can compare the RE-A with the Mazdaspeed but the B&M is completely different. It uses it's own housing, has springs and does not feel like stock (clicks in to gear).
There is more to making a short shifter then cutting the top. You have to rebalance it. There's pictures from other posts that show the difference.
Yes, the RE-A is shorter (about an inch) and is extremely smooth. I like the position alot better then stock. The only drawback is since it's so beefy I can only get one rubber boot to stay on. The second one allways pops off. But it's still enough to keep the heat out. I'm not sure if the Mazdaspeed stalk is just as beefy or if it's taller.
There is more to making a short shifter then cutting the top. You have to rebalance it. There's pictures from other posts that show the difference.
Yes, the RE-A is shorter (about an inch) and is extremely smooth. I like the position alot better then stock. The only drawback is since it's so beefy I can only get one rubber boot to stay on. The second one allways pops off. But it's still enough to keep the heat out. I'm not sure if the Mazdaspeed stalk is just as beefy or if it's taller.
07-13-07, 11:00 PM
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but the B&M is completely different. It uses it's own housing, has springs and does not feel like stock (clicks in to gear).
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yeah yeah but I wanted to see a pic of the RE-A and MS next to each other. There was a thread with the RE-A and stock. I think the MS is less think and taller then the RE-A but wanted to see them in a pic side by side.
07-14-07, 02:17 PM
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The thread that shows the re with stock will also show a MS. You will see that the MS is the same size as stock. The folcrum is much higher on the MS. This is what gives such a short throw to the MS combined with rasing the base on the stock shifter.
The Re is shorter then stock and I think the bent in the shifter is more then stock.
The Re is shorter then stock and I think the bent in the shifter is more then stock.
07-14-07, 02:44 PM
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https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-specific-1993-2002-16/re-amemiya-short-shifter-installed%3B-pics-498580/
07-14-07, 02:59 PM
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I have a B&M knock off which I modified with a stock lever for the upper part. I agree that the B&M style is notchier and that the stock type shifters are smoother; however, if you like to bang off 3rd gear under power as I do, the B&M type gate has proven to be much more accurate for me.
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This thread has some pictures:
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=498580
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=498580
Here you can see the longer pendulum and a different shape or angle from the fat stalk to the threaded stem. I don't know if there are any clearance issues but on my CRX the Neuspeed short shifter has a cut stem and they compensate by elongating the pendulum like the MS above and it hit the exhaust. I had to gring it down and now it only hits in reverse.
In this pic they give the allusion they are the same except for a cut stalk. I don't think it was made without rebalancing. I would inagine the center beefy part is heavier then the stock one. I could tell you adding the weighted RX-8 shifter did make alot of difference to counter the shorter stem.
07-14-07, 07:44 PM
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Yes, but using the 2 pictures you can draw a direct comparison between the two. The RE-A is basically the stock shifter with a little off the top. You can see that it's probably the same or similar length as the Mazdaspeed 'overall'. However, the MS one has the folcrum much higher which probably cause the upper/installed height to be a little lower.
07-14-07, 08:07 PM
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I've tried all 3 shortshifters mentioned above, and am currently using a Mazdaspeed. The Mazdaspeed and B&M have the same throw length. However, the Mazdaspeed is as smooth as stock, while the B&M is quite notchy. The RE doesn't seem to reduce as much as the other 2. It basically feels like a stock shifter, but physically shorter.
I would rate the Mazdaspeed and B&M above the RE, since that's what a shortshifters for.. shorter throws. Out of the Mazdaspeed and B&M, it depends on what you like. If you want smooth as stock, go for Mazdaspeed. If you like the sporty notchiness, then get the B&M. The B&M is much cheaper than the Mazdaspeed as well.
I would rate the Mazdaspeed and B&M above the RE, since that's what a shortshifters for.. shorter throws. Out of the Mazdaspeed and B&M, it depends on what you like. If you want smooth as stock, go for Mazdaspeed. If you like the sporty notchiness, then get the B&M. The B&M is much cheaper than the Mazdaspeed as well.
07-15-07, 08:55 AM
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I like my B&M shifter. The throw is definetly shorter and I personally like that notchy feeling. The shifter really clicks into gear with just a little bit of effort. It's hard to explain - but to me it feels like you are a little more connected to the car. Feels like you are really driving a sports car - not a video game.
07-15-07, 11:21 AM
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Basically I see it this way
If you want just smoother shifting without reducing throw that much go with the RE
If you want to reduce the throw but like the smoother shifting go with the Mazdaspeed
If you want to reduce throw but like the notchy feeling like me since it gives you a more feel that you are in gear then go with the B&M.
You decide, I had all 3 but I liked the B&M better since you can feel it go in gear better, when I had the Mazdaspeed it kinda felt like it did not go in gear as good since it was smoother but it did.
If you want just smoother shifting without reducing throw that much go with the RE
If you want to reduce the throw but like the smoother shifting go with the Mazdaspeed
If you want to reduce throw but like the notchy feeling like me since it gives you a more feel that you are in gear then go with the B&M.
You decide, I had all 3 but I liked the B&M better since you can feel it go in gear better, when I had the Mazdaspeed it kinda felt like it did not go in gear as good since it was smoother but it did.
