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Old 03-06-05, 12:15 PM
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any idea this sensor is for?

Need to know the utility of this water sensor on the rear of water pump.
The lower one with just one wire connector.
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Water Thermal Sensor. The stiock ECU uses that temp reading as to retard the car during warm-up. If it's not working, the car will probably run similar as if the MAP sensor is disconnected.
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Originally Posted by Mahjik
Water Thermal Sensor. The stiock ECU uses that temp reading as to retard the car during warm-up. If it's not working, the car will probably run similar as if the MAP sensor is disconnected.
Does the PFC do that as well?
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Originally Posted by the_glass_man
Does the PFC do that as well?
I don't believe so.
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Actually, the lower one-wire sensor is the fan thermoswitch. It grounds out at a certain temperature to kick the fans on.

The two-wire sensor above it is the thermosensor for the ECU. It reports the coolant temp to the ECU for determining fuel amount and timing - it's a pretty primary input to the ECU. When the engine is cold, fuel doesn't atomize as well so the ECU richens up the mixture for the car to run properly.

The thermoswitch is commonly replaced with a lower-temp switch. The thermoswitch for the '89-91 RX-7 comes on at 95 deg. C instead of 108 deg. C, keeping the car in a better temperature range.

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Originally Posted by DaleClark
Actually, the lower one-wire sensor is the fan thermoswitch. It grounds out at a certain temperature to kick the fans on.

The two-wire sensor above it is the thermosensor for the ECU. It reports the coolant temp to the ECU for determining fuel amount and timing - it's a pretty primary input to the ECU. When the engine is cold, fuel doesn't atomize as well so the ECU richens up the mixture for the car to run properly.

The thermoswitch is commonly replaced with a lower-temp switch. The thermoswitch for the '89-91 RX-7 comes on at 95 deg. C instead of 108 deg. C, keeping the car in a better temperature range.

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So where should you mount these if you don't have a water pump housing anymore?
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wire

Thanks, you know the color of the wire plug at this place?
I am not sure if it's black with red line.









Originally Posted by DaleClark
Actually, the lower one-wire sensor is the fan thermoswitch. It grounds out at a certain temperature to kick the fans on.

The two-wire sensor above it is the thermosensor for the ECU. It reports the coolant temp to the ECU for determining fuel amount and timing - it's a pretty primary input to the ECU. When the engine is cold, fuel doesn't atomize as well so the ECU richens up the mixture for the car to run properly.

The thermoswitch is commonly replaced with a lower-temp switch. The thermoswitch for the '89-91 RX-7 comes on at 95 deg. C instead of 108 deg. C, keeping the car in a better temperature range.

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Yes the termoswitch is the black with red wire.
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I had a hard time figuring out which plug was which because on the old threads people say confliting info. Some people say that the top plug is the fan switch and some said thermo sensor. I replaced the top plug which was the thermo sensor. So from here on out
Top plug.........Thermo sensor
Bottom plug.......Fan thermo switch
Lets please try to stop the conflicting info, if you don't know the correct answer please don't just guess at it.
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Quoting myself from an older post:

Originally Posted by Mahjik
widebody2,

You just need the two sensors from the back of the housing?

If so, the top is the thermosensor and the bottom is the thermoswitch. You can get both from Mazda. The thermoswitch is the one people replace with the Miata part to turn the fans on earlier.
Forget my first message.
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Originally Posted by Mahjik
Quoting myself from an older post:



Forget my first message.
This wasn't directed toward you Mahjik, You know way more that 95% of the people on this forum(including myself)
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Originally Posted by the_glass_man
So where should you mount these if you don't have a water pump housing anymore?
Wow - that's a scary thought!

If you have no water pump housing, it needs to be a similar location - on the engine side of the thermostat. That's the best place for a temp reading.

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Originally Posted by DaleClark
Wow - that's a scary thought!

If you have no water pump housing, it needs to be a similar location - on the engine side of the thermostat. That's the best place for a temp reading.

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Is that the left side or the right side?


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