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Old 10-22-18, 07:41 PM
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Just chiming in my 2 cents. About 7 years ago I did a restore on my AC system. I bought 3 condensors, 2 sets of lines, and did a retrofit to make my MANA system use a denso drier. I replaced the compressor with a reman'd one from 93 Toyota Corolla (cost 120 vs 300-400 for the Mazda equivalent). For the drier retrofit, I sourced lines from a 1st generation Toyota Tacoma (95-04), which is also the same as a 3rd gen 4runner (96-02). They share the same drier so it was easier than trying to find denso RX7 lines. I had a local shop weld the lines the Toyota lines to the Mazda lines. I bought a new drier from NAPA. I can get better photos of the job tomorrow but the system held up except I forgot to replace the schrader valve on the low pressure side. That was the only downside to my rebuild. I could have probably used a better expansion valve too. I'll link to a post in my build thread where the pictures are.

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MANA AC Compressor

Originally Posted by Ricebox
I have a MANA dryer if anyone needs one, its off a 95' with low miles. also have the lines for it.
Hey I know it's been a while since you posted this but I was wondering if you still have that compressor available? If you do what's the condition of it and how much are you asking for??
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Has anyone successfully replaced or refurbished a MANA dryer unit recently? Any luck finding a place that can cut it open and replace the dessicant? I have a 94 touring and APPARENTLY those come with MANA systems too =(
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Check your local classic car auto body shop. Some classic shops have customers particular about using the same oem part and nothing new so that the car is all original.
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Originally Posted by derSchwamm
Has anyone successfully replaced or refurbished a MANA dryer unit recently? Any luck finding a place that can cut it open and replace the dessicant? I have a 94 touring and APPARENTLY those come with MANA systems too =(
Could try retrofitting it like I did
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Originally Posted by tv4184
Could try retrofitting it like I did
I know you used parts from various Toyotas. Is it not possible just to get two Denso hoses and splice then in around the dryer, so I can keep everything else but switch the Denso dryer? Or is there more to it than that?
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Originally Posted by derSchwamm
I know you used parts from various Toyotas. Is it not possible just to get two Denso hoses and splice then in around the dryer, so I can keep everything else but switch the Denso dryer? Or is there more to it than that?
Thats exactly what I did. I had an aluminum welder splice the lines in from a 1st gen Tacoma / 3rd 4runner to get the denso dryer to fit.
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Would you rather rebuild a stock ac compressor? Or wasn't there another ac compressor you could get from another vehicle that works?
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Would you rather rebuild a stock ac compressor? Or wasn't there another ac compressor you could get from another vehicle that works?
I got a reman compressor for a corolla of eBay. I think I listed it. Gonna be easier than rebuilding it. Costs less than the listed fd one
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Just had my compressor replaced with a reman from Rockauto last week. Will see how long that lasts...
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Does anyone know where I can buy the connector that goes on top of the MANA A/C Compressor? Mine was crushed. I can unbolt it but I would need to find a replacement.

I found the DENO 134a compressor but that will require me to make customer lines going to the compressor and modify the BATTER TERMINAL HARNESS..
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Hi all,




As I am finishing up refurbishing the HVAC under the dash, I wanted to share a few part numbers for some available ac parts numbers for a DENSO system. The dryer and expansion valve were both the correct fit and included the correct size orings.






The dryer is as follows ~ four seasons part # 33237. The new dryer is roughly 3/4” shorter than the factory installed one but seems to fit a little better. It included orings and can be had for around $20. Just a note in the second picture, the detent pin hole locations are in the centerline of the ports.














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The expansion valve is as follows ~ DENSO # 475-2002. It is a direct fit and included the correct orings. Guess what? It’s also around $20.




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Currently rebuilding (re-gasketing) a TV14C Denso Compressor that came on my 94 Touring (MANA) AC System. The system worked, but the compressor had leaking oil all around the seals. Using a guide for a Miata (and R134 compressor), but was lacking an exploded view. Came across these tonight for both R12 and R134 compressors. Figured I would post for future reference for Compressor parts. The seal kit I ordered was on the shelf nearly 11 years.

There's really nothing to the compressor...if you have one that turns I'm pretty sure it can be rebuilt for around $25 in seals and some oil. That's all I've spent to date.

This is my first attempt, but as with most items on our vehicles, I find I have a good chance of doing just as good as any rebuilt compressor off the shelf from any store. (Or screwing it up less for less money.)

I also spent hours looking for a replacement drier for the system (MANA). While no one has found one yet, I came across a few that appear a close match in size and fittings. I'll report if I find any that work, otherwise I found a shop that rebuilds driers...Autozone should have them all on my doorstep next week.
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Any luck on a mana dryer replacement?
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I believe I have. The two dryers for test fitting arrived and looked promising in person. I just haven't had a moment to go play with the car since New Years. I should get a few moments down there this weekend and I'll report back. I haven't forgotten!

I also found a company that makes a dryer with the bracket. Tho it doesn't look stock. Not sure they still produce it, I'll reach out to them again this Friday.
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Originally Posted by 5spd427
I believe I have. The two dryers for test fitting arrived and looked promising in person. I just haven't had a moment to go play with the car since New Years. I should get a few moments down there this weekend and I'll report back. I haven't forgotten!

I also found a company that makes a dryer with the bracket. Tho it doesn't look stock. Not sure they still produce it, I'll reach out to them again this Friday.
Have you had any luck?? I am currently in this situation, trying to find a solution for the Mana dryer. If I can't find one my backup plan is to go full custom lines but I would rather not!!
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Originally Posted by 5spd427
I believe I have. The two dryers for test fitting arrived and looked promising in person. I just haven't had a moment to go play with the car since New Years. I should get a few moments down there this weekend and I'll report back. I haven't forgotten!

I also found a company that makes a dryer with the bracket. Tho it doesn't look stock. Not sure they still produce it, I'll reach out to them again this Friday.
Have you had any luck? I am in the same situation, trying to find a dryer to go with my MANA lines. Plan B is to go full custom lines but I would rather not!
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Originally Posted by 5spd427
I believe I have. The two dryers for test fitting arrived and looked promising in person. I just haven't had a moment to go play with the car since New Years. I should get a few moments down there this weekend and I'll report back. I haven't forgotten!

I also found a company that makes a dryer with the bracket. Tho it doesn't look stock. Not sure they still produce it, I'll reach out to them again this Friday.
I should close the loop on my search. I found two companies that had listed a MANA replacement dryer, I called both and neither carry them any longer. They also weren't interested in trying to carry them in the future.

I tried Four Seasons 83160 and 83102. Both were close, but neither had an exact connection.

I haven't given up, so I'll post back if I continue. I may try to fab up some lines and change over to a denso connection.
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I just went with the rx-8's combo of the condenser and drier mounted together. The shop is building fresh lines anyway so changing the connection fittings isn't a problem.
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Originally Posted by fendamonky
I just went with the rx-8's combo of the condenser and drier mounted together. The shop is building fresh lines anyway so changing the connection fittings isn't a problem.
When you get your FD back from the shop, I'd like to take a peek at how they routed your AC plumbing. My FD has currently has zero AC components under the hood, and a ginormous FMIC & Megan racing AL radiator which is supposedly an OEM replacement. The rad currently sits a bit more vertical than the stock setup, so my preliminary engineering to restore AC will most likely involve going to a different IC, mounted in a stock or V-mount configuration, and installing the current Megan radiator in a less vertical (i.e. stock) configuration with TBD condenser, and fabricate the AC plumbing accordingly. The RX8 condenser/dryer looks like it might do the trick.
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Originally Posted by Pete_89T2
When you get your FD back from the shop, I'd like to take a peek at how they routed your AC plumbing. My FD has currently has zero AC components under the hood, and a ginormous FMIC & Megan racing AL radiator which is supposedly an OEM replacement. The rad currently sits a bit more vertical than the stock setup, so my preliminary engineering to restore AC will most likely involve going to a different IC, mounted in a stock or V-mount configuration, and installing the current Megan radiator in a less vertical (i.e. stock) configuration with TBD condenser, and fabricate the AC plumbing accordingly. The RX8 condenser/dryer looks like it might do the trick.
Can do Pete
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Originally Posted by fendamonky
I just went with the rx-8's combo of the condenser and drier mounted together. The shop is building fresh lines anyway so changing the connection fittings isn't a problem.
I am in the process of doing this also. I have it mounted on an old school Rotary Extreme v mount and I'm making all my lines with Eaton gh001 hose and ez clip fittings.
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Originally Posted by Uncle Hungry
I am in the process of doing this also. I have it mounted on an old school Rotary Extreme v mount and I'm making all my lines with Eaton gh001 hose and ez clip fittings.
Sadly I won't be able to speak very intelligently on the actual process of making the switch. My car is in a shop 3,000 miles away and they're doing the work. I'll be happy to share pictures as I get updates on how they're integrating the condenser into the vmic. I suspect they'll be making use of their machine shop for a lot of custom mounting brackets though...
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Originally Posted by fendamonky
Sadly I won't be able to speak very intelligently on the actual process of making the switch. My car is in a shop 3,000 miles away and they're doing the work. I'll be happy to share pictures as I get updates on how they're integrating the condenser into the vmic. I suspect they'll be making use of their machine shop for a lot of custom mounting brackets though...
Luckily my old school RE v mount already has L brackets welded on and I mounted the condenser already. AC should be good to go in a week or so.
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