AC parts availability and MANA vs Denso AC
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Just chiming in my 2 cents. About 7 years ago I did a restore on my AC system. I bought 3 condensors, 2 sets of lines, and did a retrofit to make my MANA system use a denso drier. I replaced the compressor with a reman'd one from 93 Toyota Corolla (cost 120 vs 300-400 for the Mazda equivalent). For the drier retrofit, I sourced lines from a 1st generation Toyota Tacoma (95-04), which is also the same as a 3rd gen 4runner (96-02). They share the same drier so it was easier than trying to find denso RX7 lines. I had a local shop weld the lines the Toyota lines to the Mazda lines. I bought a new drier from NAPA. I can get better photos of the job tomorrow but the system held up except I forgot to replace the schrader valve on the low pressure side. That was the only downside to my rebuild. I could have probably used a better expansion valve too. I'll link to a post in my build thread where the pictures are.
Part 2 - AC Rebuild
I hope this helps.
Part 2 - AC Rebuild
I hope this helps.
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MANA AC Compressor
Hey I know it's been a while since you posted this but I was wondering if you still have that compressor available? If you do what's the condition of it and how much are you asking for??
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Does anyone know where I can buy the connector that goes on top of the MANA A/C Compressor? Mine was crushed. I can unbolt it but I would need to find a replacement.
I found the DENO 134a compressor but that will require me to make customer lines going to the compressor and modify the BATTER TERMINAL HARNESS..
I found the DENO 134a compressor but that will require me to make customer lines going to the compressor and modify the BATTER TERMINAL HARNESS..
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Hi all,
As I am finishing up refurbishing the HVAC under the dash, I wanted to share a few part numbers for some available ac parts numbers for a DENSO system. The dryer and expansion valve were both the correct fit and included the correct size orings.
The dryer is as follows ~ four seasons part # 33237. The new dryer is roughly 3/4” shorter than the factory installed one but seems to fit a little better. It included orings and can be had for around $20. Just a note in the second picture, the detent pin hole locations are in the centerline of the ports.
As I am finishing up refurbishing the HVAC under the dash, I wanted to share a few part numbers for some available ac parts numbers for a DENSO system. The dryer and expansion valve were both the correct fit and included the correct size orings.
The dryer is as follows ~ four seasons part # 33237. The new dryer is roughly 3/4” shorter than the factory installed one but seems to fit a little better. It included orings and can be had for around $20. Just a note in the second picture, the detent pin hole locations are in the centerline of the ports.
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Currently rebuilding (re-gasketing) a TV14C Denso Compressor that came on my 94 Touring (MANA) AC System. The system worked, but the compressor had leaking oil all around the seals. Using a guide for a Miata (and R134 compressor), but was lacking an exploded view. Came across these tonight for both R12 and R134 compressors. Figured I would post for future reference for Compressor parts. The seal kit I ordered was on the shelf nearly 11 years.
There's really nothing to the compressor...if you have one that turns I'm pretty sure it can be rebuilt for around $25 in seals and some oil. That's all I've spent to date.
This is my first attempt, but as with most items on our vehicles, I find I have a good chance of doing just as good as any rebuilt compressor off the shelf from any store. (Or screwing it up less for less money.)
I also spent hours looking for a replacement drier for the system (MANA). While no one has found one yet, I came across a few that appear a close match in size and fittings. I'll report if I find any that work, otherwise I found a shop that rebuilds driers...Autozone should have them all on my doorstep next week.
There's really nothing to the compressor...if you have one that turns I'm pretty sure it can be rebuilt for around $25 in seals and some oil. That's all I've spent to date.
This is my first attempt, but as with most items on our vehicles, I find I have a good chance of doing just as good as any rebuilt compressor off the shelf from any store. (Or screwing it up less for less money.)
I also spent hours looking for a replacement drier for the system (MANA). While no one has found one yet, I came across a few that appear a close match in size and fittings. I'll report if I find any that work, otherwise I found a shop that rebuilds driers...Autozone should have them all on my doorstep next week.
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I believe I have. The two dryers for test fitting arrived and looked promising in person. I just haven't had a moment to go play with the car since New Years. I should get a few moments down there this weekend and I'll report back. I haven't forgotten!
I also found a company that makes a dryer with the bracket. Tho it doesn't look stock. Not sure they still produce it, I'll reach out to them again this Friday.
I also found a company that makes a dryer with the bracket. Tho it doesn't look stock. Not sure they still produce it, I'll reach out to them again this Friday.
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I believe I have. The two dryers for test fitting arrived and looked promising in person. I just haven't had a moment to go play with the car since New Years. I should get a few moments down there this weekend and I'll report back. I haven't forgotten!
I also found a company that makes a dryer with the bracket. Tho it doesn't look stock. Not sure they still produce it, I'll reach out to them again this Friday.
I also found a company that makes a dryer with the bracket. Tho it doesn't look stock. Not sure they still produce it, I'll reach out to them again this Friday.
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I believe I have. The two dryers for test fitting arrived and looked promising in person. I just haven't had a moment to go play with the car since New Years. I should get a few moments down there this weekend and I'll report back. I haven't forgotten!
I also found a company that makes a dryer with the bracket. Tho it doesn't look stock. Not sure they still produce it, I'll reach out to them again this Friday.
I also found a company that makes a dryer with the bracket. Tho it doesn't look stock. Not sure they still produce it, I'll reach out to them again this Friday.
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I believe I have. The two dryers for test fitting arrived and looked promising in person. I just haven't had a moment to go play with the car since New Years. I should get a few moments down there this weekend and I'll report back. I haven't forgotten!
I also found a company that makes a dryer with the bracket. Tho it doesn't look stock. Not sure they still produce it, I'll reach out to them again this Friday.
I also found a company that makes a dryer with the bracket. Tho it doesn't look stock. Not sure they still produce it, I'll reach out to them again this Friday.
I tried Four Seasons 83160 and 83102. Both were close, but neither had an exact connection.
I haven't given up, so I'll post back if I continue. I may try to fab up some lines and change over to a denso connection.
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When you get your FD back from the shop, I'd like to take a peek at how they routed your AC plumbing. My FD has currently has zero AC components under the hood, and a ginormous FMIC & Megan racing AL radiator which is supposedly an OEM replacement. The rad currently sits a bit more vertical than the stock setup, so my preliminary engineering to restore AC will most likely involve going to a different IC, mounted in a stock or V-mount configuration, and installing the current Megan radiator in a less vertical (i.e. stock) configuration with TBD condenser, and fabricate the AC plumbing accordingly. The RX8 condenser/dryer looks like it might do the trick.
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Sadly I won't be able to speak very intelligently on the actual process of making the switch. My car is in a shop 3,000 miles away and they're doing the work. I'll be happy to share pictures as I get updates on how they're integrating the condenser into the vmic. I suspect they'll be making use of their machine shop for a lot of custom mounting brackets though...
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Sadly I won't be able to speak very intelligently on the actual process of making the switch. My car is in a shop 3,000 miles away and they're doing the work. I'll be happy to share pictures as I get updates on how they're integrating the condenser into the vmic. I suspect they'll be making use of their machine shop for a lot of custom mounting brackets though...
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