BADSVN2000

So basically with my current mods (ARC SMIC, Power FC, Greedy 3" DP, 3" exhaust with no cat but resonator, Apex'I filter pipes with HKS filters and boost is at 1 bar on stock turbo's) I should have around the 325-350 mark?? I will be putting it on the dyno for more tuning soon but just need to save the $$.

What do you think? I know it is quick, very quick compared to a stock FD.

1QWIK7

iTrader: (33)

Maybe, maybe not and i didnt check because thats not what i was arguing.

I read it 87 times and you are still forgetting the fact that i WASNT trying to argue what you said, but rather using what you said in conjunction with what the other guy was saying about having low hp and running 10s.

I wasnt arguing about stock ports, stock twins cant run so and so HP. I was soley talking about low hp and running a low 1/4 time.

Anyway this argument is dumb. All i was saying is just because ONE or TWO fd guys had like 360rwhp and ran a 10.92, doesnt mean your FD with that little HP will do the same. Thats when i brought up the example of the bridgeported FD on this forum who has about 56xrwhp or something along those lines and he runs low 11s.

Thats all i was saying.

dread rx

Guys,
I need some help!
Currently rebuilding a 3rd gen engine, and adding a few mods. What I'm trying to figure out is : What's the max psi I could run, and what sorta HP I can expect to see from them.
1. Street-ported the engine
2. T-70 turbo
3. S/S turbo manifold
4. Small FMIC Kit
5. 50mm waste gate
6. Greddy type BOV.
I know it may be asking a lot, but that's all I have funds for currently, and I just want to know if they're gonna make much of a difference.

Ashteen.

dread rx

oh, running 3' pipes throughout as well

matty

yes you seem to talk about this guy a bit in a few threads. do you have the details. what was his sixty foot, 1/8th etc? did he have slicks? did he lift? and most importantly what was his trap (i think we pretty much reached a conclusion that dynos can lie and therefore the trap is the real number)? have you seen his dyno graph? has he raced the car or any car before? can the whole thing simply be bs? i would say there are holes in the story.

point is do u actually believe a 560rwhp fd is only good for low 11s? i think you do. which is annoying. because clearly it isnt when guys with 360-400rwhp are getting low and mid 11s easily with slicks and the driver mod.

obviously you know that tires play a HUGE roll in drag racing and most guys who go to take the car to the track to "see what the car can do" usually are running their street tires which will severely limit their times. forexample i have run 12.2 with 300rwhp (dyno proven) and 360rwhp (dyno prove). the only thing that changed is my trap which went from 110 to 119mph. point is that there becomes a point of diminishing returns once you reach a certain power level if you arent running slicks.

just pls answer my question though. do you feel 560rwhp in a fd is only worth low 11s? and if so why do you harpe on this one guy? i have seen you bring this up in a few threads....mainly to put down the rx7 in general. anyways i dont want to get into that again but would you consider this one example to be a scientific/logical/educated approach to reach a conclusion, especially when you probably know little about this one example. is this one example applicable to the entire universe of fd's outthere?or is a more scientific approach to eliminate this one sample given the overwhelming data set thats outthere and the basic laws of physics which says otherwise? i guess what i am am saying is , are you dumb?

i know you and i have gotten into our fair share of arguements as i typically tend to be a yay sayer while you are more of a nay sayer but i mean come on here.

matty

i;de say lower end of that range. get a hks twin power and more full and u should be at 350 or more.

1QWIK7

iTrader: (33)

It seems to me that either you LIKE arguing with me ONLY or you're not the smartest kid in your family. Im not doubting either.

Im keeping "this guy" anonymous because i dont need to start any argument with "that guy". This thread is already fucked up as it is and im surprised its not locked yet, i dont need another grudge from another e-person on the internet.

Its clear that you want me to state his forum name, which i wont, use your head and figure it out. Ill give you a hint (after he blows ANOTHER ENGINE, he's thinking about going LSx).

To answer your question, first off, i couldnt give 3 ***** about drag racing nor the technicalities of it. I dont care about calculating numbers to determine what you could run, what you couldnt. Our cars werent made to be drag cars. They are awesome handling cars.

Now about the 500+ rwhp running only 11 seconds. Its a no brainer that the cars main problem is either a shitty driver or a bad launch/tire setup. Any idiot to the drag world can tell you that.

What i was arguing, again as i have said a million times, is that its VERY UNLIKELY to run a low 1/4 time with minimal HP. THATS ALL. Just because 1 or 2 people did it, doesnt mean every FD is capable of it.

Because as you can see, you dont EVER see it. I surf the time slip/dyno section and the single turbo section of this forum. I see lots of high HP cars and their times are ****. Does that mean they cant run good times? Of course not. ITs the fact they ARENT is what im getting at. Remember a car cant go anywhere unless theres someone operating it.

You're basically arguing a blunt topic.

matty

lol ...i dont want you to post his name? oh my god! please tell me what leads you to believe that? i dont care if its jesus christ.

what i asked of you i asked twice. do u think one example provides reasoning to deduce a conclusion? no it doesnt.

as you said our cars arent drag cars. thus people who buy them arent setting them up for et. ie not buying slicks. conversely a guy who buys a trans am may go out and buy slicks and run the car every weekend. you answered your own question bud. every single sentence you posted is the answer and i dont think you know it. no use in arguiing..you know if a 550rwhp beast is set up "right" it wil run good times. however you choose to bash....tis the cycle of 1qwik7. most of these guys are one time racers to "see what she got". whereas your avg mullet boy is there every weekend and drag slicks are his first mod. cant play baseball w/o a glove.

matty

this sentence really tops it. so u want to talk 1/4 mile racing and use it as a means to bash a rx7 but u dont care what the numbers mean? whooaaa.

anyways here is a time slip. i dont even know what the car on the left is. do u really think its a mid 12 sec car or was there some other variable at work here. please dont tell me you would label it a 12 sec car.....the reality is this is exactly what u are doing

https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1212464272

i argue on here alot. soo many different types of people ...it happens. i am oppionated. i think i am 100% right. however we arent going to get anywhere. i am gettign tired of arguing. so u can state your last pt and we can move on.....and from time to time give each other dirty looks. hey only matter of time before we meet face to face as we live close. i will buy u a beer or lunch...

1QWIK7

iTrader: (33)

PDviper.

Tell him to come in here and prove all of us wrong and explain his times.

Better yet, it doesnt even matter. The subject in general and the people associated with this thread about it is not even worth the typing excercise.

And after this sentence from you

..really convinces me you dont comprehend what you read or you are a poor observer.

90% of the people who already own/are buying FD's are preparing HP levels to go STRAIGHT.

If their car was mainly bought for track use, why do they need 450, 500, 550HP?

Damian has what? 350, or close to it and kicks ******* *** on the track vs vettes, cobras etc etc.

1QWIK7

iTrader: (33)

Who said i wanna talk about 1/4 times? I made my opinion and that was that. You obviously thought something completely opposite. Besides your opinion, that was that.



Showing a slip with numbers is pointless, especially in this discussion. So i have no idea why you showed it. Thats like being 30 years old and you get pulled over and you show the cop a slip from your dad saying its ok to speed.



Which is exactly why i believe you are the way you are. You argue on here so much, you're aimlessly throwing attacks at topics you dont even associated your posts with, arguing with people and not making sense, just for the sake of arguing. Out of all the topics with the most FALSE posts, i made ONE opinion in this thread and you put the red dot on my head.

We can argue back and forth like 3rd graders, thats fine. YOu dont know me, i dont know you. I am very opinionated, just as you said, so its not about being a **** talker the past couple of years. Thats how i am. I say whats on my mind, all the time. I hold nothing back so whatever you wanna take from this is all up to you.

This thread can be locked now.