Like I said before, nothing is fool proof...

Hey... I still say 2 are better than 1... How much more could it possibly cost to have a spare fire extinguisher... What could it hurt?...

example...2 hands are better than 1... etc...

True!......... "There comes a point where you can't worry about things that much".... So.... If it takes 2 or 3 fire extinguisher to keep you from worrying that much..... So be it!....

As far as the insurance is concerned there are many variables....

Examples:

What if he couldn't afford the full coverage? Which is his case....

What if he had full coverage, but loved the car so much and there was no replacement or money wasn't enough compensation?

What if the car was one of a kind or very rare?

I could go on for ever with "what if".... I realize that insurance is a good alternative for many people that can afford it.... Although this does not apply to everybody like in this case....

All I'm saying is that 2 fire extinguishers are better than 1..... (Two different brands just encase!).... That's all!

Fortunately for you.... Your 1 fire extinguisher and your full coverage is enough... Now let others decide for themselves if they want to choose other alternatives......

Dwayne

 

I highly doubt it.... The Home Depot and there share holders for one.... Will probably settle out of court to avoid negative publicity and lawyers fees... Not to mention the possible other cases nationwide that have occurred where there was loss of life etc.... If this blows wide open, the share holders wouldn't like lt....

My bet is on a settlement...

Dwayne

 

I think him suing the deptment of transportation is BS. Not responding in time....
My engine fire was only about a minute long, contained only in the engine bay and it resulted in a total loss of the vehicle. It happened in 1998 and back then FD's were worth more than they are now and they still totaled it.

Him suing home depot may have some clout. But good luck in weeding through the bullshit of what would had been the outcome if the fire extinguisher worked.

 

I hope your friend can show that has been trained or certified in fire extinguisher use. 99% of all people I know have NEVER discharged a fire extinguisher, let alone know the proper usage.

I have practiced, and have used them numerous of times, and on different medias.

It could have been simply user-error.

:-) neil

 

His car would had been very likely totalled. You be surprised how much damage a small engine fire causes. Even if put out in time.

I look at a paying for insurance this way: It would be a hell a lot more money to replace my car than what it to pay for insurance. Which one is more affordable?



Then suing would not be satisfactory either. Besides if he loved a car so much and he knew that he could not ever replace it, then he should drive it. Think about it. Driving is not necessarily a safe activity, too many factors out of one's control.

Insurance is all we got... If that ain't good enough see previous answer.


Sometimes life really sucks but one can't expect the goverment to bail us out (suing the transportation dept) or another party to fully pay for one's misfurtone. Meaning that he can't hold Home Depot responsible for the complete loss of the car.

Sucks about your friend's fire though.

 

Then he knows ahead of time he'd better not ever have real harm to the car or it will cost him money straight out of pocket. He's not somehow entitled to get a free car or have someone else pay just because he doesn't have enough money.

It's a friggen car, not a life. Insurance pays money, it doesn't grant wishes from the fairy godmother. Attend the church of your choice if you want miracles.

So what? If it's too precious to risk harm park it in a vault.

You aren't required to carry comprehensive insurance. If the car gets messed up then it's up to you to fix it. The car catching on fire was nobody's fault but his own. The car didn't catch on fire because the fire extinguisher was bad, it caught on fire due to some sort of failure of the car. Home Depot, the extinguisher company and the DOT didn't set his car on fire.

Your friend's lawsuit is ridiculous and when he actually contacts a lawyer about it they will inform him of that. Maybe it will bring him one step closer to becoming an adult.

 

Guess what?.... He still has the fire extinguisher... I checked it... It says full and still doesn't work.... He was also on video tape reading the label and followed through with the steps and it still didn't work.... A passer by also stopped to help and tryed the same fire extinguisher and it still didn't work.... Its a DUD!....

"User-error"? It wasen't used!

I still say settlement....

Dwayne

 

It's a freagin Property Damage case,..not a Personal Injury Claim involving a severely burned Plaintiff on life-support system.

This may actually be a case of the Owner's own negligence brought upon his own failure to maintain a safe operating motor vehicle.

 

Property Damage case? Maybe.... Faulty or defective safety equitment case? Maybe... Class action case? Maybe... Maybe after some investigation there exists previous cases or complaints against Home Depot etc.... Maybe there have been personal injury or claims involving severly burned plaintiffs on life-support systems due to Home Depots negligence by selling faulty fire extinguishers.... Haha this snow ball is growing.....

Failure to maintain a safe motor vehicle?....His car also had a valid New York state safety inspection up to date.......

We will eventually find out what the case, (if one) will be....

Sounds like alot for the Home Depot to chew.... I still say settlement....

Dwayne

 

You should go back and read over your own thread. Unless they are maintained, powder extinguishers "settle" and are useless. Chances are that one sat in the shop for a fair while.

Did he shake it before trying to discharge it? At least?

 

I have mine screwed on to a piece of flat 1" aluminium bar bent in a wide "U" shape. The bar sits across the two front passenger seat bolts.
It's secure, easy to get to, and isn't a hazard for me or my passenger if I have an accident.

I must take a couple of pics of it, as this has come up before.

People that have them unsecured in a bin are asking for trouble IMO. If they have a rollover the chances are pretty high that the extinguisher will become a missile inside the cabin.

 

And I thought this thread was dumb BEFORE the whole lawsuit issue came up....

I have now lost another piece from my rapidly diminishing chunk of hope for the future of our society.

RX7UP, your friend needs to get a fricking clue, right after he gets a life. "**** happens." Despite the widespread use of this phrase, most of America apparently doesn't understand it and thinks that they are owed something. If the fire extinguisher is found to be actually faulty, then I agree, the fire company manufacturer should pay for at least a portion of his costs of repair and any hardships as a result thereof. The other parts of the lawsuit are typical American whiny crap.

-stepping off soapbox with only ONE fire extinguisher in the car....

EDIT -- If your friend can't afford full coverage, then perhaps he should wise up and buy a car he CAN afford to cover (or get a cheap enough car that it makes no nevermind).

 

 

He shook it like there was no tomorrow.....

And when I say "settle" I am talking about a lawsuit settlement, not the contents of the fire extinguisher settling... Although I realize that could happen also....

Inclosure let us not forget the moral of this thread....... 2 fire extinguishers are better than 1.....

Thank you and may your fire extinguishers put out your fires when needed......

Good nite,
Dwayne

 

ROTFLMAO You are da man !!!!! Glad your car issue is comming to plan. Jack

 

I would deffinatley NOT get that. "Extremely effective for Class A, B and D fires. NOT effective on Class C fires where electricity is flowing." If you have an electrical fire your well.... fucked.

 

I remeber those pictures, absolutely ammazing was my thought. Where are we safe from idiots.

 

I mounted my fire extinguisher to the rear shelf between the two bins. That way I can reach an arm back to grab it even if I'm strapped in.

2 fire extinguishers? If you're that concerned you really should get a full vehicle fire surpression system like on certain race cars. One large Halon tank in the trunk with nozzles inside the car and under the hood and a big red switch within easy reach to instantly activate it. Now that's real safety.

As was mentioned before usually the problem is not having a working fire extinguisher but rather not being able to access the area on fire quickly enough (or without burning yourself).

 

You could probably start a GB for setups like this with the people in this thread.

Heavy duty leather work gloves in the.... glovebox. And a small crowbar can help.