ngirondo

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Can someone please help me out here? I'm in Japan and i found this 1991 FD, i thought they only produced the FD starting in 92? Is this just a typeo?

Mazda RX-7 type RB S package for sale

fendamonky

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As far as I'm aware 1991 was the final year of the FC (I don't think I've ever seen a 1992 FC). 1992 was a transition year, 1993 was the first year of the FD.

I think people will refer to "1992 FDs" because the vehicles were physically built in 1992, though they are technically 1993 model year vehicles (much like you'll find 2016 model cars out on lots now, even though it's only 2015).

YELLOWGSLSE

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Very true. Although, in this particular case, I would lean more toward it being a typo, due to the passenger airbag. I'm pretty sure no Mazda's anywhere had passenger side airbags in 1991. Now, obviously the owner could have swapped the dash, but I'm just saying...

Broke_A_Baller

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I think that's accurate for the US, but in Japan they do have 1992 FD3S from what I remember.

adam c

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Most likely a 2001 FD.

TomU

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looks like it's got some nice parts

j9fd3s

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Mazda started production for the Japanese market 10/91, and the US market 12/28/91. most of the world refers to a car by its build date, but in the US we have a thing called a model year. so the 12/91-6/92 US model FD's are 1993 model year cars, even though they weren't made in 1993. they do meet safety and emissions requirements FOR 1993 though

cr-rex

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yes, you are correct. in japan there are 1991 FDs and 1993 FCs. at some point, both the FC and FD were being produced at the same time.

DaleClark

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^All correct with regards to production dates. However, the car in the ad in particular is either a 2001 car or someone did a LOT of work updating the car. New badges on the rear, passenger airbag, 99+ instrument cluster, 96+ y-pipe, etc.

The car itself looks like a 1999-2002 car.

Dale

ngirondo

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Awesome info guys thank you I knew the 92s are a thing here because I own one just trying to figure this one out and if it turns out to be a true 91 it'll be coming back to the states 2016

j9fd3s

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if you get the vin we can tell what series it is.

7krayziboi

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I confirm ,91 FD3S exist , I'm in the 900 first made and I'm born January 6 1992

SA3R

That is completely incorrect.

My Dad owns a 1991 built & plated FD (JDM RHD).
I also own a 1992 built & plated FD (JDM RHD Auto.)

The first FD in Japan was manufactured & sold in 1991. Manufacturing of the FD3S started in 1991 and continued through 1992, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99, 2000, 2001, and ended in 2002.

At one point, Mazda Japan was manufacturing new FD and FC cars at the same time as production overlapped. FC ran from 1985 to 1991. So FD and FC were being manufactured at the same point in time in 1991.

Its difficult to explain this to people living outside Japan or Australia, as we saw the whole FD model run from 1991 to 2002, whereas the US only had a few short years, but that is not reflective of the model run in the rest of the world.

SA3R

And that Type-RB S you originally linked in the OP, would be a 2001 with a typo. I agree with Dale. Far too much modern stuff on it, and Type RB S prevailed mostly in the 2000+ years.

Not many people would retrofit as many fiddly things on that car as it has, if it were a true 1991. Too much work. Occam's Razor says its more likely a typo! :p

j9fd3s

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you're correct, but in the USA we have weird rules, because we're completely bonkers.

in the USA we have this concept of a model year, it is for safety and emissions standards, and traditionally it follows the new model introductions, so the 2016 model year cars should be at or soon to arrive at the dealerships, even though its 2015.

in the case of the FD, ALL of our 1993 model year cars were built between 12/28/1991, which is 2 months after the Japanese market start, and about 6/92. i don't recall exactly, but they would have shown up about April/May of 1992 as 1993 models. so none of the 1993 model year FD's were actually built in the calendar year of 1993.

at the other end, the 1995 models were actually made right up until December of 1995, which is about 4 months longer than usual, and there were some hanging around in dealer lots up to 1998, because they couldn't give the things away.

so the FD was actually here from 92-96, but we only got the 93/94/95 model years. its kind of why there are no 1985 trucks (1986 models showed up in 1985), or no 1998 miata's (we got the NB as a 1999 model, in 1998), or the ND miata, which is a 2016 model...

the above is factually correct, but if it makes any logical sense to you, you should come over here and run for president.

billyboy

Appears to be a climate control car, if it works, too many knick-knacks to retrofit to a late car and get it all to cooperate. Fitting some late dash, cluster and cosmetic detail on the other hand is fairly trivial, so more than likely an early car....would be an ideal car for dodgy local mate in Granville to clock and misrepresent!