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Old Apr 15, 2020 | 03:50 PM
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Sakebomb or Banzai oil pedestal?

I'm planning on adding a oil temp and pressure sensor and wanted to add an oil pedestal Anyone recommend one over the other? I currently have a -10 SS line running to an oil cooler. Any input would help

Banzai Racing Billet Oil Filter Pedestal

https://www.sakebombgarage.com/bille...tal-fd3s-rx-7/
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Old Apr 15, 2020 | 06:13 PM
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theyre about the same. just depends if you want to spend more for brands sake.....

they will serve the same purpose and do the job just the same. i would get the one from banzai because you have a choice in color
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Old Apr 15, 2020 | 09:04 PM
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+1 on the banzai unit. It was cheaper and yeah you get choice of colors. Comes with everything needed for a clean install.
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Old Apr 15, 2020 | 09:42 PM
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Get banzai, I have sakebombgarage and has less sensor ports for some reason.
has only the main oil line , one right and one behind/oposite side of the main oil line.
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Old Apr 15, 2020 | 09:47 PM
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here ia a bad pic, just for reference. I have oil temp and oil presure, but its beter to have more obtions for placement of sensors.
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Old Apr 15, 2020 | 11:14 PM
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I ended up buying the Sakebomb because it had one less NPT port compared to the Banzai but I didn't take into account your point of sensor placement options.
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Old Apr 15, 2020 | 11:19 PM
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+1 on the banzai unit. It was cheaper and yeah you get choice of colors. Comes with everything needed for a clean install.
Thanks for the input. I went with SBG. After tax and shipping I ended up paying $205!! YIKES! I didn't find too much info on the SBG oil pedestal (either works or doesn't type of thing I guess) so I'll install it and takes pics and follow up with everyone
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Old Apr 15, 2020 | 11:23 PM
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I bought the sakebomb and was disappointed that with the factory oil cooler hardline it was hitting somewhere causing it to not seat flush and leak. I ended up bending it and tightening it more than I was comfortable to stop the leaking.
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Old Apr 15, 2020 | 11:31 PM
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I bought the sakebomb and was disappointed that with the factory oil cooler hardline it was hitting somewhere causing it to not seat flush and leak. I ended up bending it and tightening it more than I was comfortable to stop the leaking.
​​​​​​​I'm running -10an lines so I'm hoping to not have any install issues. I was also looking at the Full Function Engineering oil pedestal but at this point, I'll have to try out the SBG
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Old Apr 21, 2020 | 02:29 PM
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Have you considered the full function? I have it and am happy with it.

https://fullfunctioneng.com/product/...-oil-pedestal/
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Old Apr 21, 2020 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Ace Callaway
I'm planning on adding a oil temp and pressure sensor and wanted to add an oil pedestal Anyone recommend one over the other? I currently have a -10 SS line running to an oil cooler. Any input would help

Banzai Racing Billet Oil Filter Pedestal

https://www.sakebombgarage.com/bille...tal-fd3s-rx-7/
whats wrong with a 30$ one from glowshift if you are going to use it for sensors??
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Old Apr 22, 2020 | 09:43 AM
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First off, I would just flat avoid anything from Glowshift in general. Also, I would be REALLY concerned using that on a critical engine piece - if they used a sub-par grade of aluminum (which is very likely) and it stress cracks over time, that's a great way to dump your oil pan on the ground.

Don't support companies that make cheap knock-off crap.

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Old Apr 22, 2020 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by DaleClark
First off, I would just flat avoid anything from Glowshift in general. Also, I would be REALLY concerned using that on a critical engine piece - if they used a sub-par grade of aluminum (which is very likely) and it stress cracks over time, that's a great way to dump your oil pan on the ground.

Don't support companies that make cheap knock-off crap.

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I dont use stuff from glowshift with the exception of this sandwich plate and the 38mm coolant sensor adaptor.

how would it stress crack over time?
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Old Apr 22, 2020 | 03:24 PM
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I recently swapped from SBG to the FFE unit. I didn't have any issues with the hard-line with the SBG as described above, but I'm switching gauges (to Defi) and their temp sensor is longer and comes in contact with the center before being fully threaded. FFE has a bung next to the oil cooler port which allows for longer sensors.

I didn't do a sandwich plate to avoid the additional height and to avoid adding a potential point for oil leaks.
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Old May 5, 2020 | 11:42 AM
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I had two issues with the Sakebomb Garage (SBG) pedestal:

1) The temp sensor was too long (or rather, the space in the pedestal insufficient), and it bottomed out before it tightened. This was for the PIVOT dual gauge (oil press/temp on one gauge, now discontinued).
Fortunately for me, I had a couple of spare temp sensors lying around that I could test (one had a different temp/voltage and didn't read the temp right) and then splice into my temp gauge harness. I believe both the DEFI temp sensor and Billion ones will (barely) fit. It looks like there should be at least 3 more mm of space to accommodate all sensor sizes.

2) The back sensor port (the one facing the right side of the car) makes contact with a portion of the car harness. The harness is putting pressure on the sensor hex head, and I worry that the hex head will wear through the wire insulators, or that the pressure will break off the sensor wires.

For these reasons I would actually NOT recommend the SBG one. From photos, I like how the Banzai one has a few port options, though one looks like the larger (old school?) pressure sensor port.
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Old May 5, 2020 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by diablone
I recently swapped from SBG to the FFE unit. I didn't have any issues with the hard-line with the SBG as described above, but I'm switching gauges (to Defi) and their temp sensor is longer and comes in contact with the center before being fully threaded. FFE has a bung next to the oil cooler port which allows for longer sensors.

I didn't do a sandwich plate to avoid the additional height and to avoid adding a potential point for oil leaks.
oh oops, sorry I didn't see this. I had the same problem with the sensor hitting the center before fully threading/tigtening, ecept my Defi sensor fit, just the Pivot one didn't.
For posteirty, re: height, the SBG pedestal is shorter than stock, allowing for a taller filter. (I suspect Banzai/FFE are, too).
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Old May 28, 2020 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Ace Callaway
I ended up buying the Sakebomb because it had one less NPT port compared to the Banzai but I didn't take into account your point of sensor placement options.
We have manufactured ours in a way that allows you to add additional sensor ports around the radius of the pedestal as needed. Since every build is different we realized that having a million ports that are not used and then plugged simply introduces lots of additional leak points and chances for failure. We've reduced our ports to only the essentials and bulked up our wall thickness to allow for additional NPT ports to be user-added around the perimeter.
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Old May 28, 2021 | 11:33 PM
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I just installed the SBG oil pedestal and my stock oil cooler line hit the dipstick tube. I torqued the banjo bolt to the factory spec, but it wasn't enough. I ended up with an oil slick under my car. It appears the SBG pedestal shifted the position of the oil line port slightly compared to OEM. I prefer not to bend the oil line or my dipstick tube if possible. Are there any fitment issues with Banzai or FFE units using the stock oil cooler lines?
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Old May 29, 2021 | 01:31 AM
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Old Jun 4, 2021 | 07:03 PM
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I've had the Banzai pedestal installed for a few months, it works with the stock oil cooler hard line / banjo bolt setup.

I have no complaints, there are only minor things I would have done differently and those might be specific to the sensors I used. I threaded in the oil temperature sensor before installing the stock oil cooler line, and I'm not sure there would be enough room to swap sensors without removing the stock oil cooler line. Luckily that's not something that needs to be done often. Also I used an NPT tap to enlarge the holes slightly, for a few more threads engagement with the sensors I have.

You need an uncommon socket size to remove the banjo bolt, more info here: https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generati...wrong-1095912/

Good idea to get some high-temperature thread sealant from the parts store, I used Permatex High Temperature Thread Sealant from the auto parts store.
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Old Jun 11, 2021 | 01:24 PM
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So I ended up buying a Banzai pedestal to replace the Sakebomb one. The Banzai pedestal spaces out the oil cooler tube 1/2" further from the engine compared to the Sakebomb unit. There's now ample clearance between the oil cooler pipe and dipstick tube. More importantly, my engine is no longer an oil spewing fountain when I start it!




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Old Jun 16, 2021 | 04:33 PM
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We made it a direct replacement for the OEM Pedestal

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An alternative solution is the FEED oil temperature/pressure adapter:

https://www.rhdjapan.com/feed-oil-pr...fc3s-fd3s.html

I have one but have not installed it yet so cannot comment on clearances.
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Old Jun 16, 2021 | 10:37 PM
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I have the SB and happy with it. I don't see how you could go wrong with Banzai or SBG.
I fit the larger oil filter and I am using one port for an aem oil temp. Install was a snap. I have braided lines so 0 issues on clearance.
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Old Jun 17, 2021 | 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by moconnor
An alternative solution is the FEED oil temperature/pressure adapter:

https://www.rhdjapan.com/feed-oil-pr...fc3s-fd3s.html

I have one but have not installed it yet so cannot comment on clearances.
I run the CorkSport one, only have one sensor port but that's all I need, and clearance is not an issue.
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