The RX-7 confirmed to be in the pipeline for 2017---RX-Vision Unveil!!
01-28-14, 08:49 AM
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i see where you're trying to go, but you're actually using the wrong analogy, fritz. people buy the panamera because of the 911. but the 911 isn't porsche's halo car, it's their standard model. porsche's halo cars are their super cars ala 918 and cgt. and as nobody buys a panamera because of the 918, just like no one buys a toyota because of the lfa, you're basically basically arguing against your own point.
Mazda would not hurt there rep and it would be money well spent (advertising) if they actually released cars like the furai etc...
Glad we understand the concept behind a company owning a world class sports car and keeping it in it's line up because it truly does help sell their other cars
PS As does releasing mega dollar super cars but mazda hasn't done that yet only Porsche is consistantly brave enough (investing in the badge) for those type of endeavors because they have a great business model and stick to it. With that said though I'm actually worried about Porsches direction they are taking with the 911 and believe they have lost the essence of what made that car desirable. It used to be a small simple light weight reliable sports car and now it's a complicated big heavy weight full of electronics/more like a vette than a 911. Weird the 911 is becoming a vette and the vette is becoming the 911. I think Porsche is going to loose a lot of sales from the new c7 and those previous Porsche buyers are going to have another 50k in the bank. What's really wild is porsche is giving it's owners trouble at the dealerships if the car is tracked and WOW chevy is supporting the track guy.
01-28-14, 08:56 AM
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sooooo you think you can teach mazda a thing or two? i think i've literally heard it all. with their oh thousands of engineers, nearly a century of being in business, and billions of man hours or research, computations, engineering, simulation, racing, development, road tests, real world feedback, etc. you think that there is actually one iota of information that you know that mazda hasn't already considered a thousand times over?
on a serious note though, i just put on a filter and exhaust on my honda and gained 5hp. can someone put me through to the ceo honda so i can teach him how to gain an extra 5hp on his cars? oh and can someone get me tim cook's phone number. i just jailbroke my iPhone and it's got a bunch of cool new features on it now. i really think tim's gonna be impressed with when i show him what i did. i'm totes serious guys, it's really important that these guys talk to me cuz i've done a bunch of cool **** that they really need to see.
on a serious note though, i just put on a filter and exhaust on my honda and gained 5hp. can someone put me through to the ceo honda so i can teach him how to gain an extra 5hp on his cars? oh and can someone get me tim cook's phone number. i just jailbroke my iPhone and it's got a bunch of cool new features on it now. i really think tim's gonna be impressed with when i show him what i did. i'm totes serious guys, it's really important that these guys talk to me cuz i've done a bunch of cool **** that they really need to see.
01-28-14, 10:07 AM
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Over $2.75 Billion in 2013 according to Bloomberg. They outsold Audi and Mercedes, spent 5.5 billion on upgrading and expanding manufacturing facilities AND are bringing 25 new models to market in 2013/2014.
That right there looks like a company not only getting it right today but it is poised for the next decade. That is the forward thinking approach.
So if you look at the company as an investment. Even with less
Profit then last year its a "BUY" in my book.
Value is there long term for investors and car buyers alike. The company makes a fine car. Its also attractive to buyers because they know how to market the cars.
Free Maintinence and vehicle warranty for 4/50k miles
You might be surprised how many owners of high end automobiles actually lease vs buy.
BMW has the best lease deals out there.
I can tell you from my own shopping experience on that.
01-28-14, 10:47 AM
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sooooo you think you can teach mazda a thing or two? i think i've literally heard it all. with their oh thousands of engineers, nearly a century of being in business, and billions of man hours or research, computations, engineering, simulation, racing, development, road tests, real world feedback, etc. you think that there is actually one iota of information that you know that mazda hasn't already considered a thousand times over?
What you don't think I considered the fact that Mazda may or may not have tried every concept? Just because they may or, may not doesn't mean they actually put any serious effort or money into many of those ideas. I don't have those limitations because I don't have a boss breathing down my neck telling what I can and can't do. You obviously have a problem with me doing whatever I feel necessary to help out with rotary R&D? Whatever my project is, it may very well have ZERO interest with Mazda. That's fine as I can comfortably live with myself and say I at least tried to innovate on something I was truly passionate about. Whatever the case, the NA guys will absolutely love what I resigned and how it performs. You obviously have a bone to pick against me because RotaryExperiment also is doing something he thinks will help. You didn't question him did you? Why????? I have no freaking idea.
Curious, why are you so closed minded and negetive?
01-28-14, 10:51 AM
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There's obviously a lot of things that Mazda didn't consider when building the FD, hence some great ideas and innovations that have been introduced by the Grassroots/aftermarket community. Take the Vmount for example. An OEM version of that radiator/intercooler arrangement could have made the car run significantly cooler. I'm all for people testing proof of concept ideas and then letting the market/community be the judge with their wallets.
Thx Tim, I guess FdRacer would rather just have me just not do ANYTHING when it comes improvement on an existing invention. Negative people really bug the **** out of me.
01-28-14, 11:11 AM
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So now your trying to refocus attention on finding those v8 examples you claimed that could be moved further back than a 20b? You've had about 3 days, and you haven't shown me an example yet.
What you don't think I considered the fact that Mazda may or may not have tried every concept? Just because they may or, may not doesn't mean they actually put any serious effort or money into many of those ideas. I don't have those limitations because I don't have a boss breathing down my neck telling what I can and can't do. You obviously have a problem with me doing whatever I feel necessary to help out with rotary R&D? You obviously have a bone to pick against me because RotaryExperiment also is doing something he thinks will help. You didn't question him did you? Why????? I have no freaking idea.
Curious, why are you so closed minded and negetive?
What you don't think I considered the fact that Mazda may or may not have tried every concept? Just because they may or, may not doesn't mean they actually put any serious effort or money into many of those ideas. I don't have those limitations because I don't have a boss breathing down my neck telling what I can and can't do. You obviously have a problem with me doing whatever I feel necessary to help out with rotary R&D? You obviously have a bone to pick against me because RotaryExperiment also is doing something he thinks will help. You didn't question him did you? Why????? I have no freaking idea.
Curious, why are you so closed minded and negetive?
Hard to tell in some of these post who's fooling who
Anyway hats off to all you innovators out there and hopefully one of you will start building a great 3 rotor conversion for the FD that doesn't cost 20k plus.
01-28-14, 11:18 AM
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There's obviously a lot of things that Mazda didn't consider when building the FD, hence some great ideas and innovations that have been introduced by the Grassroots/aftermarket community. Take the Vmount for example. An OEM version of that radiator/intercooler arrangement could have made the car run significantly cooler. I'm all for people testing proof of concept ideas and then letting the market/community be the judge with their wallets.
Many of the parts coming of are emission type regs or cheap parts to keep the price down so it's pretty easy to make those type of changes with big results and the FD was one of those cars that needed a major overhaul so the aftermarket gang had a field day with it.
What's really cool about the FD is when some of the original players like M2 and PFS faded a true grass roots thing developed and those guys have been awesome. From Rotary Extreme to most recently SBG etc....we are lucky to have guys that won't settle for less and build stuff we can all use and enjoy for this great car
01-28-14, 11:36 AM
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sooooo you think you can teach mazda a thing or two? i think i've literally heard it all. with their oh thousands of engineers, nearly a century of being in business, and billions of man hours or research, computations, engineering, simulation, racing, development, road tests, real world feedback, etc. you think that there is actually one iota of information that you know that mazda hasn't already considered a thousand times over?
on a serious note though, i just put on a filter and exhaust on my honda and gained 5hp. can someone put me through to the ceo honda so i can teach him how to gain an extra 5hp on his cars? oh and can someone get me tim cook's phone number. i just jailbroke my iPhone and it's got a bunch of cool new features on it now. i really think tim's gonna be impressed with when i show him what i did. i'm totes serious guys, it's really important that these guys talk to me cuz i've done a bunch of cool **** that they really need to see.
on a serious note though, i just put on a filter and exhaust on my honda and gained 5hp. can someone put me through to the ceo honda so i can teach him how to gain an extra 5hp on his cars? oh and can someone get me tim cook's phone number. i just jailbroke my iPhone and it's got a bunch of cool new features on it now. i really think tim's gonna be impressed with when i show him what i did. i'm totes serious guys, it's really important that these guys talk to me cuz i've done a bunch of cool **** that they really need to see.
even if they have 1000 engineers working on a project only a handful of ideas are chosen to attempt in a given period. some are failures, others result in what winds up in production, many never even get put into play. take a look at all the gadgets you have today, now look at how many of them actually work properly 100% of the time. this is a product of over engineering and lacking quality due to cost, but giving people what they want.
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01-28-14, 12:18 PM
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sooooo you think you can teach mazda a thing or two? i think i've literally heard it all. with their oh thousands of engineers, nearly a century of being in business, and billions of man hours or research, computations, engineering, simulation, racing, development, road tests, real world feedback, etc. you think that there is actually one iota of information that you know that mazda hasn't already considered a thousand times over?
when Mazda got the rights to develop the rotary in 62-63 they had 47 engineers to work on it. the 13B-MSP was designed by 5-6 guys after hours.
so its like half a century, 50 guys, and millions of man hours.
Mazda is a small company.
01-28-14, 12:20 PM
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Actually BMW is not cash strapped. Not only did they still make
Over $2.75 Billion in 2013 according to Bloomberg. They outsold Audi and Mercedes, spent 5.5 billion on upgrading and expanding manufacturing facilities AND are bringing 25 new models to market in 2013/2014.
That right there looks like a company not only getting it right today but it is poised for the next decade. That is the forward thinking approach.
So if you look at the company as an investment. Even with less
Profit then last year its a "BUY" in my book.
Value is there long term for investors and car buyers alike. The company makes a fine car. Its also attractive to buyers because they know how to market the cars.
Free Maintinence and vehicle warranty for 4/50k miles
You might be surprised how many owners of high end automobiles actually lease vs buy.
BMW has the best lease deals out there.
I can tell you from my own shopping experience on that.
Over $2.75 Billion in 2013 according to Bloomberg. They outsold Audi and Mercedes, spent 5.5 billion on upgrading and expanding manufacturing facilities AND are bringing 25 new models to market in 2013/2014.
That right there looks like a company not only getting it right today but it is poised for the next decade. That is the forward thinking approach.
So if you look at the company as an investment. Even with less
Profit then last year its a "BUY" in my book.
Value is there long term for investors and car buyers alike. The company makes a fine car. Its also attractive to buyers because they know how to market the cars.
Free Maintinence and vehicle warranty for 4/50k miles
You might be surprised how many owners of high end automobiles actually lease vs buy.
BMW has the best lease deals out there.
I can tell you from my own shopping experience on that.
having played with a bunch of BMW's, i can tell you that leasing is by far the best way to have one, you do not want to own it out of warranty.
01-28-14, 02:16 PM
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yes i think we do. i also wouldn't even be surprised if an engineer or 2 don't pop in here from time to time to read up on what's going on in the end user world and their impressions of the cars/engines, what areas could be addressed and what people may or may not like about a car. this is a focus group, one they don't even have to pay. just like in the gaming world, developers read ideas and implement them without giving credit where it may be due. just because you never get an official response doesn't mean it may not be true.
even if they have 1000 engineers working on a project only a handful of ideas are chosen to attempt in a given period. some are failures, others result in what winds up in production, many never even get put into play. take a look at all the gadgets you have today, now look at how many of them actually work properly 100% of the time. this is a product of over engineering and lacking quality due to cost, but giving people what they want.
even if they have 1000 engineers working on a project only a handful of ideas are chosen to attempt in a given period. some are failures, others result in what winds up in production, many never even get put into play. take a look at all the gadgets you have today, now look at how many of them actually work properly 100% of the time. this is a product of over engineering and lacking quality due to cost, but giving people what they want.
I wouldnt be suprised if the reason the new CEO Came out and said the whole Rx7 not gonna be made comment is because of all the following this thread had regarding the new 7 HAH needed to stomp the seed before it sprouted
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01-28-14, 04:19 PM
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we are on the same page about the bimmers though, i had to change an engine in an E30, and everything about it was harder than it should have been... i will give them credit though, the E36 water pump is really easy, its almost like they knew they were going to go bad every 91 days, its almost fun.
01-28-14, 04:21 PM
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Now I'm gonna try to get back to talking about a hopefull future Rx7.
01-28-14, 04:48 PM
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i haven't run it over 6k in months, and it continuously is getting worse and worse. at this point i don't even want to know the compression.
luckily i grabbed a few 30k mile housings from a core engine before sending it back to mazda, so i have something to rebuild it with as i'm sure the housings in there are toast.
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01-28-14, 04:51 PM
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actually i drive the 8 as conservatively as anyone could but it seems to not like whatever way i drive it. i figured it was on borrowed time already but it's just a shame how quickly once the MSP engines start to nosedive to the point of "no start" conditions.
i haven't run it over 6k in months, and it continuously is getting worse and worse.
Have you done regular carbon cleans on your 8 or premix?
01-28-14, 04:54 PM
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decarbed it once, about a year ago.
never premixed it but i figured i would try one more time to decarb, do a tune up and then premix for a while to see if it helps. the car has an OEM cat so i don't really want to prematurely destroy it.
i could be completely wrong though, the car still makes more power than any other 8 i've driven but you know how it goes... once you have the compression figures then there is no questioning it. same boat as my TII, struggles to start when hot but i have an engine sitting here for it because it's due regardless. it sucks but our cars get the care they need only when something is really broken.
never premixed it but i figured i would try one more time to decarb, do a tune up and then premix for a while to see if it helps. the car has an OEM cat so i don't really want to prematurely destroy it.
i could be completely wrong though, the car still makes more power than any other 8 i've driven but you know how it goes... once you have the compression figures then there is no questioning it. same boat as my TII, struggles to start when hot but i have an engine sitting here for it because it's due regardless. it sucks but our cars get the care they need only when something is really broken.
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01-28-14, 05:03 PM
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in the year since it has only had 10k miles put on it.
but it also sat for quite some time with a flooded 0 compression engine, which was sold to me that way. so from the time after i bought it that it could put miles on it under it's own power was a bonus.
but it also sat for quite some time with a flooded 0 compression engine, which was sold to me that way. so from the time after i bought it that it could put miles on it under it's own power was a bonus.