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DO YOUR RESEARCH FIRST (unlike me). I’m not going to say anything bad, but I will summarize my experience and let you make the call. Paid for a 20b motor in full, with a 2 week estimated time of picking up motor from 3rd party seller. 2 weeks progressively turned into 4 months. Each week after previous stated deadline, I had to reach out for updates to see what was going on. I was told many times “this weekend I’m getting it”. I was also told many times, seller has money, money in hand, going to pick up motor and each time ended with another excuse as to why he couldn’t get the motor. Fast forward 4 months later, it turns out seller sold all of his motors (true story) a couple weeks prior to the 4 month mark and there was no engine. I was told the seller was wired money by RPM to hold motor and through other sources and the 3rd party seller directly, it was found the seller never saw any money, never knew of any motor reservation or planned pick up of 20b motor from RPM shop owner. So what exactly was going on in the 4 month wait time? Your guess is as good as mine. Luckily a refund was agreed upon and it only took 1 month and 3 separate transactions to get my full refund. When contradicting stories were brought to the attention of the owner I was met with the rebuttal “it was just easier to text you that (a lie) instead of explain (the truth)”. Keep in mind I ALWAYS called first with no answer followed by a text because voicemail box is full and usually answered with a text message instead of a phone call. That was my experience. I encourage you to reach out to the rx7 community and do your research before choosing an engine builder of any sort not just RPM. Also after reading my review I left on their google website he resorted to name calling instead of discussing it with me (reviews can be edited). Very professional. I have also heard multiple stories just as bad if not worse directly from other customers. Just be careful.
Yeah. Guy is an idiot scammer and takes peoples money to keep the scam going, just barely finishing one project and by the time he gets to the next, already spent the money, so then preys on the next customer to complete it.
Love how he throws it back at you, completely ignoring that he had your money for 4 months and lied the whole time about having an engine.
Also, look at his subframe kit, apparently can't weld very well either haha.
Yeah. Guy is an idiot scammer and takes peoples money to keep the scam going, just barely finishing one project and by the time he gets to the next, already spent the money, so then preys on the next customer to complete it.
Love how he throws it back at you, completely ignoring that he had your money for 4 months and lied the whole time about having an engine.
Also, look at his subframe kit, apparently can't weld very well either haha.
Haha, trying to get a straight answer from him was like arguing with a toddler. I’ve heard bad things about his subframe kits as well and I’ve also heard he’s changed his business name 3 times due to law suits and bankruptcy…im sure he’s done some good out there, but my experience along with many others he was very unprofessional and disorganized. No doubt my money was used for other projects or expenses.
I think there's an easy way to solve problems like this. Money goes into escrow. Buyer and seller agree on price and delivery. Once that happens, the money goes into the escrow account, only to be paid upon delivery. Now the seller / shop has promised funds that are proven to be there, and the buyer can pull money back if the delivery date is exceeded or no progress happens. If any seller cannot agree to that, it should be a Texas-sized red flag!
I would NEVER just pay someone 10s of thousands of dollars, up front, for anything. At least not for something you don't need to survive. As a community, we should all demand this practice. Especially you guys with particularly deep pockets!
I had a problem with their tuner earlier this year. He screen shot and posted some of my pictures on his Instagram trying to pass it as HIS work. I confronted him about it and he tried to justify it. It turned into a thing where he tried to flip it and say I was a scammer and everyone needs to be careful around me.
one of his employees jumped on the train too and started saying I was scammer as well. I called the shop, spoke to the owner, explained the situation and he shut all that down for me. I have also heard of the name changing and the law suits and the other evil things as well. No experience on that side but the tuner, right brain design, is a very toxic individual.
I had a problem with their tuner earlier this year. He screen shot and posted some of my pictures on his Instagram trying to pass it as HIS work. I confronted him about it and he tried to justify it. It turned into a thing where he tried to flip it and say I was a scammer and everyone needs to be careful around me.
one of his employees jumped on the train too and started saying I was scammer as well. I called the shop, spoke to the owner, explained the situation and he shut all that down for me. I have also heard of the name changing and the law suits and the other evil things as well. No experience on that side but the tuner, right brain design, is a very toxic individual.
I’ve also heard that as well. From the stories I’ve heard and things that have happened, I personally feel the shop is toxic to the rx7 community.
Originally Posted by quichedem
I think there's an easy way to solve problems like this. Money goes into escrow. Buyer and seller agree on price and delivery. Once that happens, the money goes into the escrow account, only to be paid upon delivery. Now the seller / shop has promised funds that are proven to be there, and the buyer can pull money back if the delivery date is exceeded or no progress happens. If any seller cannot agree to that, it should be a Texas-sized red flag!
I would NEVER just pay someone 10s of thousands of dollars, up front, for anything. At least not for something you don't need to survive. As a community, we should all demand this practice. Especially you guys with particularly deep pockets!
i agree with you. Only thing I had saving my butt was a work order receipt incase anything went south.
I had a problem with their tuner earlier this year. He screen shot and posted some of my pictures on his Instagram trying to pass it as HIS work. I confronted him about it and he tried to justify it. It turned into a thing where he tried to flip it and say I was a scammer and everyone needs to be careful around me.
one of his employees jumped on the train too and started saying I was scammer as well. I called the shop, spoke to the owner, explained the situation and he shut all that down for me. I have also heard of the name changing and the law suits and the other evil things as well. No experience on that side but the tuner, right brain design, is a very toxic individual.
Before this goes off-topic, I'm gonna stop you right there. I've known the person whom you are referring to for over 10 years now. If you have or had an issue with him, please send me the details via PM.
As for RPM, a good friend of mine got the same BS excuses like everyone else did. Ultimately, I convinced her to get her car and everything out of there, get her money back and finish it on HER terms. Bottom line is scammy people do the bare minimum so they can keep on scamming. Then they play the victim when called out on it. It's a common behavior pattern for Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
I had a problem with their tuner earlier this year. He screen shot and posted some of my pictures on his Instagram trying to pass it as HIS work. I confronted him about it and he tried to justify it. It turned into a thing where he tried to flip it and say I was a scammer and everyone needs to be careful around me.
one of his employees jumped on the train too and started saying I was scammer as well. I called the shop, spoke to the owner, explained the situation and he shut all that down for me. I have also heard of the name changing and the law suits and the other evil things as well. No experience on that side but the tuner, right brain design, is a very toxic individual.
Look here, Mr. Full Detail Automotive, your job was an incredibly simple task of installing Josh's G42-1200 Compact that I provided. When you left exhaust leaks and warped the compressor flange like an amateur, that was one thing, but let me share with the class what you posted on Instagram AS YOUR OWN as the car was entirely tuned and setup by me:
Next post will expose the whole story... Uno Momento Por Favor.
The dude's job was to swap a turbo and he goes on in his Instagram stories claiming to have built and tuned the car.
None of us were having it that way.
Now that Josh had to redo your shoddy work by himself and fix the leaks and damages you created, we'll finally be able to hit the dyno again in coming months.
Good work, Bucko. Stick to detailing, Mr. Full Detail Automotive.
Okay people, I'm gonna stop this before it turns into a butthurt fest. I've discussed it privately with both CR-Rex and GucciBravo, determined what happened along with how it happened based on the evidence. What I will say publicly is that either lack of exhaust sealing or improper torque was the culprit that killed the compressor housing. As there was no evidence presented the vehicle's condition before the involvement of "Full Detail Automotive", the condition could not be reasonably disputed after FDA was involved.
Therefore, it is settled. For this reason, I am going to ask both of you to refrain from posting again about it here as it is no longer relevant to the matter at hand (RPM Motorsports).
Nice... now we're getting off topic. Make a new thread and we can hash it all out.
No. This IS the topic. You continue to smear my name and I posted the exact interactions between us and the car you're replying about.
Listen... I want everyone to succeed and do well in their given field to the best of their abilities, but you need to understand that the work you completed was a simple task of swapping a turbo, not building a car.
You didn't do your job properly.
You implied and claimed the BUILD and TUNING was done by you, which it was not.
You have a problem with me because I expose the truth. I wish you and your business a better future, but that's going to take effort on your part. Stop with the bullshit.
@GucciBravo@cr-rex Take it to a new thread if you want to air some dirty laundry. Or not. This thread is about RPM. Anything further from either of you will be deleted.
Yeah. Guy is an idiot scammer and takes peoples money to keep the scam going, just barely finishing one project and by the time he gets to the next, already spent the money, so then preys on the next customer to complete it.
Owner is threatening to sue me for defamation and saying I owe him 26k for the build that couldn’t happen. Was told to take review down off of the google reviews which is identical to my original post.
Owner is threatening to sue me for defamation and saying I owe him 26k for the build that couldn’t happen. Was told to take review down off of the google reviews which is identical to my original post.
The rx7 community is worse than highschool. All these "big name" shops treating their customers like ****, spending all their time hype-beasting their brand on social media. Edit: Here's a timely example they just posted.
The rx7 community is worse than highschool. All these "big name" shops treating their customers like ****, spending all their time hype-beasting their brand on social media. Edit: Here's a timely example they just posted.
kind of sickening. He texted me and so “oh also I have a d block 20b now” which is irrelevant to a contract that ended 6 weeks ago. I post facts and nothing more, yet I’m in the wrong. Lol and they deleted their google review page or whatever it’s called so now you can’t see my review along with others.
Same shitty shop different customer, man I thought people would have learned by now!!!! This isn't anything new. The funniest part of his messages is "I'm a man of my word" NOT!!! what a narcissist. When I went to the open house the shop was a mess, parts all over the place, no plugs in open engines, and of course the front lifts had nothing but unfinished 20B cars. oh and probably 50-70 projects on the lot and the lot next door. There are numerous horror stories that have came from this shop(lawsuits, change of name, mike saying he is not the owner to pissed off customer to avoid being at fault (rumor has it the shops in his wife name due to bankruptcy) and many seem to get the SAME promises of the worlds greatest 20B set ups and it never seems to happen. I have only seen 2 running 20Bs on their ig/Facebook/YouTube post but who knows the quality of said engines. If I had to guess its not that great due to the same 2 cars seen in other post in the background for months after "first start" video or dyno pulls, haven't heard/seen anyone actually taking delivery of a completed 20B and being happy(you would think they would want to share the great success). I hope the fellow rotor heads that have had issue personally with this shop speak up and share more facts about what's really happening with their builds. I remember one guy posting months ago about a 20b build started in 2018 and still waiting(any update?) iv also noticed recently many old post getting reposted maybe to bait in some fresh money from folks who wouldn't know any better.
I like quichedem idea about escrow and I think that would really be the ultimate test for a shop, if they can agree to the terms there should be no issue if not RUN. just run it by as an idea/option and watch how they react. I feel most big reputable shops would have no issue or at least 25% upfront rest in escrow until its done
Hey guys. I wanted to share my experiences with dealing with this shop as well. I feel it's important to voice the troubles as many have already in order to expose incompetent and shady practices.
My nightmare started in December of 2020. I started on a quest to locate a shop that can resurrect my FD from 10 years of sitting since I was picking up my life and family out of NY to TX and came across RPM. During my initial conversation with Mike I asked him about the lawsuit that I came across on a review I found. His response was that it was nothing and that the customer had it out for him.... RED FLAG I know. But I gave him the benefit of the doubt. (Regret)
Through speaking with many that were screwed over by him I see that there was in fact many lawsuits.
I also went through the phone tag and no call backs for many weeks at a time. When I did get a response it was excuses after excuses. Covid this covid that. I was told certain parts and then were changed without me knowing until I asked. Customers need to know that their money can be spent better elsewhere.
Whether you drop 2k or 30k (like I did) I believe you will get the same rude and shady treatment. As a business owner myself I can't even imagine treating customers like this and still be in business.
After many months of the progress on the car getting no where I told them that I would be picking up the car in January. So after spending the holidays with family I rented a car and drove down 6 hours from NY to their shop with a flight out of Maryland.
When I get there Mike looks at me and asks why I'm there.. Wtf! He tells me that the car isn't ready. He knew I was making the trip down and he didn't even mention that the car wouldn't be ready. So a waste of time and money. I canceled the transport and flew back home. I was told "just give me a few more months". So I gave them til May.
May rolled around and again I booked everything to make the trip down, this time to take the car no matter if it was done or not.
Even though the car ran that day, it felt that it's was put together without much care. I discovered interior parts damaged, windshield cracked (I was compensated) but now have to deal with the repairs and additional money out of pocket.
Once the car was transported home I noticed that the clutch engages high in the travel. I brought this to Mike's attention and he tells me that it's the clutch master cylinder or pedal adjustment. I put in a new cylinder and SS line bled the system and still the same. Now he keeps telling me to call the office which no one answers. He just doesn't care. He has my money... So now I have to pay to have the transmission removed to have the clutch inspected. Who knows if it's even a new clutch. He said he was going to install an Exedy and he installs a Clutch Master without even telling me.
In addition on a brand new motor are oil leaks on the pan. Which I too have to remove and fix.
I agree with the previous post that money should be put into escrow. It's done when you buy a house and should be the practice when shelling out thousands of dollars too to a repair shop. If a shop believes that they are a professional business then they wouldn't have an issue with it. One shouldn't have to fund their business.
I hope this falls across all ears so that this nonsense with shops like RPM will end. If we are smarter consumers were better off in the end. Shops, especially ones that specialize in rotaries survive on the business WE give them.
Wow that is ridiculous. I would make a review on his google page like I did. It will get his attention lol I also brought his “contract” to the attention of my own lawyer and my lawyer said “the contract is BS and would never hold up in court” I was also advised to file a complaint with your states attorney general and Maryland’s attorney general (free) and they look into it. If there are enough cases and reason to pursue they will pursue the allegation and have the shop make it right or have another lawsuit. The shop also is not in good standing with the state of Maryland for not meeting law requirements by businesses (idk what exactly that entails). If he also tries to tell you he is not the owner, that’s a lie. You can look it up on the Secretary of State page for Maryland. In my opinion RPM is very toxic to the rx7 community purely based on experiences of myself and others. If you do make a review, ONLY state your experience, like you did here, so he can’t hit you with the defamation bs.
Wow that is ridiculous. I would make a review on his google page like I did. It will get his attention lol I also brought his “contract” to the attention of my own lawyer and my lawyer said “the contract is BS and would never hold up in court” I was also advised to file a complaint with your states attorney general and Maryland’s attorney general (free) and they look into it. If there are enough cases and reason to pursue they will pursue the allegation and have the shop make it right or have another lawsuit. The shop also is not in good standing with the state of Maryland for not meeting law requirements by businesses (idk what exactly that entails). If he also tries to tell you he is not the owner, that’s a lie. You can look it up on the Secretary of State page for Maryland. In my opinion RPM is very toxic to the rx7 community purely based on experiences of myself and others. If you do make a review, ONLY state your experience, like you did here, so he can’t hit you with the defamation bs.
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