1QWIK7

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Evo aftermarket clutches are like 1800 bucks. Its not like we have a cheap aftermarket. Difference between modding and fd and modding an nsx is once you maintain or mod an nsx, you're done. When you mod your fd and spend "only" 4k on an engine, 6 months down the road you can pick up a bad tank of gas and blow that new engine in one pull. You just wasted 4k on an unpreventable accident.

So idk why people are saying 7k is alot of money. Remember that's parts and labor at a DEALER. Probaby half of that if you do the labor yourself.

People find little things to nitpick lol. As usual on this forum.

Herblenny

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I think because you have been an FD owner, you could think outside the box (unlike most NSX owners who ONLY takes their car to the shop).. and never been under the car or even open up their hood.

Here are examples from my experience...

1st guy in 1999-2000 - I was ready to buy and he sends me the wrong vin. I asked him for 3 weeks for a vin number and when finally got it, it comes out as rolled od (about 30K miles back from 2 years back).

2nd guy I bought some SSR comps from him.. I asked him how the tires were and he said its like new. I asked any balancing issues, he said NO.... they are perfectly balanced. I get the wheels and all 4 tires were cupped. I then posted this on the NSX forum, 90+% of the people have no idea between dynamic balancing the tires vs. static. I mean who buys 3K worth of wheels and get static balancing... Of course NSX forum give me a negative trade even though I get screwed!

3rd guy is the guy from 2006.. I said this story before.. but this guy told me that he got his oil change 2 weeks ago and the mechanic told him no oil leaks. He himself have never OPENED his hood or went under the car. I mean, it was so obvious, when I lifted the car ALL four of us were like, WTF!!

That being said, I'm sure there are exceptions like you (ex rotary guy) and few others. I also realize that most who pick NSX vs other 'exotics' pick for the reliability factor. I mean, for the past 10 years I been on that forum that's been the #1 excuse of buying NSX as an exotic. Thinking back I'm glad I didn't get it. I ended up using that money and bought the 20B Cosmo, picked up another FD, and tons of parts for it. In all honesty, I'm a rotary guy and thats pretty much what I know. Not really interested in looking to learn about something new and for the money and what FD can do, its hard to beat. Anything I'll buy from this point, what I'm looking for isn't to replace the FD... its more of replacement of my daily. Replacing a daily vs. car that you are passionate about is completely different... I have asked myself few times in the past what I'll do when I'm done with the car (as I have seen a lot of guys once they build their car, sell and move on.... only to come back later). But to me, there is always something you can do when you seek to learn more. I think when you decide not learn more about the car, engine, etc... is when you move on. To be honest, I think I'm kind of glad FD/ rew isn't reliable... it gives challenge and opportunity to make the car better... At the end, I'm sure I've spend about the same amount of money as 97 NSX owner with 30K miles on it as my MB FD.. But I feel like I've learned a hell of a lot more about cars in general.

Herblenny

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Maybe because I'm in Alabama... But I agree.

Supernaut

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I will say this about NSX. It is at the very top of my list for a second car. That is the highest praise I can offer any car. Hmmm those RUFs and TVRs are really nice though but they are pretty much unattainable. I'm almost 100% that I'll own an NSX one day as a second car if I can find a good, well-maintained example for mid 20's. Even better if the car is very well maintained and has a beat up exterior.

MR_Rick

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^ Let me add to the "weird" NSX owners thing. A few years back at Cars and Coffee Irvine, I was looking and listening to this NSX guy. He traded his 1998 NSX for a 2002 NSX just because the car needed new tires. The guy he was talking to said that he could buy tires any where. The owner told him that the original tires where specially made for the NSX and it would be more beneficial to just buy a new one. There was a small crowd around, it go quite for a second then we all kind of looked at him with a WTF face then stared at each other with a smirk on our faces thinking the same thing. I wouldn't mind owning an NSX though, but some what I feel it is a down grade from the FD.


Anyways to keep the thread on track. My wife told me that doing the move to California with the FD was going to complicate things and I should think of selling it. Well I really though of it and what car I would replace it with. I almost traded the car for an 1990 E30 M3 in pristine conditions with 56k miles on the clock, but I could not let the FD go. I knew I would regret it like I did with my last one. I told the wife she can go and stay at her moms if keeping the FD would bother her. She didn't hesitated to ask "So what are we buying next for the FD?"

Supernaut

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Haa ^ Fail!

Fritz Flynn

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Here's my 2 cents. The NSX is a 100% exotic. It's one of the coolest cars ever built and what's really crazy the FD is also an exotic and it's EVEN COOLER/MORE EXOTIC. NOW put that in your pipe and smoke it If and when Mazda makes a 3 rotor RX7 with a chassis that's equally as classic (1 in million chance) it will be the greatest sports car ever made

I'll never replace the FD with anything but I did finally buy a GT3 that is a super fly car but still not up to the task of taking on my track FD.

Here's a vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySx2VlHxOvE


It has many track upgrades including full cage, upgraded diff, stripped interior etc..... Desperately needs susp upgrades to take it to the next level. It's currently running the same times as my FD on low boost.

yzf-r1

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Enough about the freakin old school NSX

This is the logical upgrade to an FD - lighter, faster, better (not as pretty, tho)
http://www.nobleforums.net/showthread.php?t=5010

....and before people start talking about the price, not a few FD owners have that amount and more invested

yzf-r1

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Congrats on the purchase (what year?), how much power is your FD making on low boost?

yzf-r1

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The M400/M12 is now sold by US manufacturer 1G Racing as the "Q1" - I will own one of these at some point, when it's time to bid farewell to the FD

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/07/11/n...q1-in-the-u-s/

It's safe to say that if you took on this thing with an NSX that you would indeed arrive....in last place

yzf-r1

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Website http://www.rossioncars.com/

This thing is sick

darknight7777777

Not sure if this has come up but i would only replace a FD with a new RX7 or RX9 what ever its called.

The car is at the end of the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJRa3YAbrQM

Herblenny

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I'm telling you.. I think some of the NSX owners need to take Tire/Wheel 101 class offer by me. Just like the moron who sold me the SSRs and the people on that forum arguing with me about balancing wheels.. I mean, come on!! Its not a rocket science!! Its basic knowledge if you finished high school. I don't know where some of these guys get their info (maybe Acura Dealer techs playing jokes on them), but they have the weirdest reasons to just sell and upgrade to newer NSX... Go on NSX prime and look at some of the people's signature. Even the moron who sold me the SSR upgraded to newer NSX... and I'm 100% he lacks basic understanding of wheels and tires.

Herblenny

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I have to share this one too...

Last Nov, I went to this import event and I over heard this conversation when I was walking by..

Here are some pics of the car so you see what I'm talking about..





He was explaining/justifying his CF parts on the car to this older gentleman who asked about what these parts do... The NSX owner points down to the rear diffuser and says, "that piece is for high speed runs.... and this (pointing to the CF engine bonnet) is so my engine will run cooler".

Now, if you look closely at all the parts.. you know why I was shaking my head and walked away..



**Just in case you guys think I'm making this up, there was another Rotary guy with me who also heard this 20B 3rd Gen (John)**
***Also, I didn't take these pics.. these are from the event gallery***

MR_Rick

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Herb,

I hear you. I go to NSX prime a few times to get some giggles but I don't know which one is worst, NSX Prime or M3 Forum.

yzf-r1

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What's wrong with Ford engines? Koenigsegg did the same thing with the CCR not long ago, and look where there are now. Start-up companies can't afford to build engines, you're being unrealistic.

yzf-r1

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This is another thing that bothers me about the NSX - the owners are 9 times out of 10 these middle aged wanna-bes who seem to think they're the **** - just makes it all the more fun to smoke them with a car costing less than half as much.

Viking War Hammer

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Little do you know, but you're acting that part to a T. It's very off putting.

yzf-r1

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Nah - I just like to drive fast

Viking War Hammer

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If you posted that car on NSXPRIME, you'd get laughed off the forum.

Not sure why you're generalizing an entire group because of what one person said. I've seen and heard some ridiculous things from RX7 owners but you're not going to see me degrade the entire community for it.

Herblenny

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Well, I would of agreed with you 5-10 years ago.. But lately, I see more 20s and 30s driving NSXs. I think mainly because price has come down some with mileage and me being mid 30s, this was one of the dream cars back when I started driving.

Also, its just different mentally with NSX vs FD owners... Also for instance.. Mileage.. I think when some one who knows FDs don't really care for mileage. Maybe because engine has been replace? But we tend to look for general condition of the car. But NSX owners, Mileage seems to be similar to status symbol. Low mileage car, they start freaking out and giving high fives.. Or when someone finds a newer model with low mileage. Again, sorry for my stereotyping of the NSX owners... I know you are abnormal and my bias towards NSX owners are showing up again

TwinCharged RX7

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When did this become the RX-7 vs. NSX ownership thread haha.

Supernaut

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I think that was just an example of what he encountered. In a way though, I think the community is definitely a product of the car. If FDs were as easy to maintain as a civic, our community would be much different. Of course not everyone on nsxprime is the same but we generalize for the sake of conversation and to make things easier to process. I hope you're not getting offended by the conversation Viking. This does bring up an interesting point. Sometimes the community is a factor in picking cars as well.

Herblenny

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Like I stated to you before, its my personal dealings and such that makes me bias.. I'm trying hard not too

That being said, you are right.. there are also TON of idiotic FD owners... But they tends to move on to something newer, trendier, and worse... as it weeds them off from owning an FD. And those who sticks to it, learns more about them, their cars just keep getting better. But what I've seen from NSX owners, they want lower mile, newer model as upgrade.... And not like most of us FD owners, just taking the car we have and update. Again, this is my general bias opinion about the two group and I KNOW there are exception to this.

Herblenny

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I agree in today's internet world where we spend our free time searching for answers and becoming part of some community...

Internet in general kind of sucks as we can't really meet and talk and share what we have.. But good enough til we could all meet up.. like at DGRR