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Old 04-02-23, 03:22 PM
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yes, indeed. I've given up trying to figure out BaT buyers. The VR with about the same mileage that sold in March went for $45K. Yeah this one's a little cleaner, but $30K more?
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Old 04-02-23, 03:36 PM
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yes, indeed. I've given up trying to figure out BaT buyers. The VR with about the same mileage that sold in March went for $45K. Yeah this one's a little cleaner, but $30K more?
Seems like all it takes on BAT is timing for the right bidders. Not even sure anymore if the actual car matters or not in some of these bidding wars. In the last two months I have seen a few Jaguars that should have sold for 50-70k ended up selling for 90k, 156k, and 175k. Unreal.
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Seller hit a few key points:

1, Very nicely detailed (up top anyway).
2. No nonsense compression test.
3. Paint thickness indications, to relieve concern about a repaint.

In the collector world, "mintness" "rarity" "proof of originalty" are very important factors. Compare your 1964 spoked Mickey mantle card to a mint, certified Mickey Mantle rookie card.

I thought MB/Tan were at the low end of the desirebility totem pole.

But maybe that was because there were those not few 250,000 mile totally trashed examples.

Maybe a MB/Tan in mintish condition, therefore, is even more the valuable?

Assuming the driveability of a stock car is more or less the same, the March $45,000 cars seem a steal now.

Thanks to those who have been topping up the poll recently!

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Originally Posted by Redbul
Seller hit a few key points:


I thought MB/Tan were at the low end of the desirebility totem pole.

But maybe that was because there were those not few 250,000 mile totally trashed examples.

Maybe a MB/Tan in mintish condition, therefore, is even more the valuable?
Thats it right there. MB either looks like total junk or immaculate. There really is no in-between. When the paint is in great shape, polished and protected, it is one of the best looking colors out there. But when its not, it just looks like an old sandblasted bluish/greenish chalky color. I've met so many people that are astonished when they see a good example of the color and they always mention they have never seen that color and it is hard to convince them that they are the same color as the bad looking one.
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Montego Blue in their natural habitat.. Rare day in 2020 where we had four LHD MB randomly show up to a cruise. We lost one a long the way. But the remaining three were the stars in the deep forest.

(Tan interior was not offered in Canada.) (R1 and Touring were not offered specifically, but the parts were offered as options. See above regarding the non-R1 CYM example.)




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75,000 mile 1994 currently listed on Marketplace. GLWS! Spot the potential!

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The seller was super involved towards addressing any questions or doubts regarding the car and auction which I think played a role.
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Looks like LHD pricing and RHD pricing of S8 (Australia basis) are starting to intermingle.


Need more LHD star-cars!

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/maz...-50000-150000/

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Originally Posted by Redbul
Looks like LHD pricing and RHD pricing of S8 (Australia basis) are starting to intermingle.


Need more LHD star-cars!

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/maz...-50000-150000/
YEP, apparently everyone in the world loves the FD!
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Old 04-06-23, 08:34 PM
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Interesting Hagerty update for April 2023. They have values going down quite a bit from January. A bit surprising with that new record sale on Bring a Trailer last month.

I'm guessing everyone knows their Condition 1-4 system (1 is best, 4 is worst). Oh, and these are their prices for 1993s.

January 2023:
1 - $89,000
2 - $66,200
3 - $47,100
4 - $27,800

April 2023:
1 - $81,900 (down $7,100 ~8%)
2 - $58,300 (down $7,900 ~12%)
3 - $41,400 (down $5,700 ~12%)
4 - $24,500 (down $3,300 ~12%)

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Old 04-07-23, 01:57 AM
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How far back does that data go?
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How to value MY FD.

This one is very close spec to my car, even the aftermarket do-dads.

https://buyee.jp/item/yahoo/auction/...uggest_history

We will see how it goes!
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Old 04-10-23, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Redbul
How far back does that data go?
I have it back to Sept. 2014 (quite a different market 9 years ago!!)

Also, they say +8% for R1 and +5% for Touring - All the pricing is for 1993 MY:

Sep-14 $15,300 $12,400 $8,900 $5,900
Jan-15 $15,100 $12,300 $8,800 $5,900
May-15 $15,700 $12,500 $9,000 $5,900
Sep-15 $23,000 $16,700 $9,000 $5,900
Jan-16 $23,000 $16,700 $9,000 $5,900
May-16 $24,700 $17,500 $9,200 $5,900
Sep-16 $24,700 $17,500 $9,200 $5,900
Jan-17 $26,900 $18,200 $9,800 $6,200
May-17 $28,200 $19,500 $10,200 $6,800
Sep-17 $31,300 $20,600 $12,400 $7,000
Jan-18 $34,500 $22,600 $13,500 $7,500
May-18 $34,500 $22,600 $13,500 $7,500
Sep-18 $44,500 $28,400 $18,000 $12,500
Jan-19 $49,400 $31,500 $18,000 $12,500
May-19 $54,800 $35,000 $24,300 $16,900
Sep-19 $64,400 $41,100 $25,600 $17,800
Jan-20 $64,400 $44,000 $27,400 $17,800
May-20 $64,400 $44,000 $26,600 $17,300
Sep-20 $64,400 $44,500 $27,900 $17,300
Jan-21 $64,400 $44,500 $29,900 $19,300
May-21 $76,440 $46,725 $32,970 $20,265
Sep-21 $83,700 $55,600 $39,300 $24,100
Jan-22 $77,000 $51,200 $38,100 $23,400
Apr-22 $83,200 $57,300 $42,700 $26,200
Jul-22 $83,200 $57,300 $42,700 $26,200
Oct-22 $89,000 $61,300 $43,600 $26,700
Jan-23 $89,000 $66,200 $47,100 $27,800
Apr-23 $81,900 $58,300 $41,400 $24,500
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Originally Posted by jsesq
I have it back to Sept. 2014 (quite a different market 9 years ago!!)

Also, they say +8% for R1 and +5% for Touring - All the pricing is for 1993 MY:


May-15 $15,700
Sep-15 $23,000
+45.5%

May-18 $34,500
Sep-18 $44,500
+29%
Wonder why prices ballons May-Sep for the really nice ones?
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Originally Posted by Carlos Iglesias
Wonder why prices ballons May-Sep for the really nice ones?
Perhaps a bunch of FDs selling for increased prices over the summer/nice driving weather months
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When do income tax refunds come in?
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When do income tax refunds come in?
it depends on when you file, how backed up they are and if you can do it electronically vs a paper check, and if they flag you for an audit or something.
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So May ~ September?
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Hey everyone. Im glad to see this forum still active given how much traffic has moved to (imo) terrible Facebook pages!

Im debating on selling one my FD's. Where do yall think would be a good place to start the listing price?

1993 Mazda Rx7 Twin Turbo
Silverstone Metallic
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118500 miles

AEM Wideband w/AEM Gauge
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Thanks!
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https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...x-7-touring-2/

Place your bets!
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@TK7

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1993-mazda-rx-7-220/

This one with a 99 look conversion was very well presented and fetched US$65,000.

How is your compression?

What is the state of the suspension?

Good compression and updated suspension would go a long way to offset the high mileage.
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Thanks @Redbul !

That one has a LOT less miles though

I havent tested compression but she starts immediately and pulls very hard.

suspension is brand new, all new bushing and coilovers.
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Good to know actual compression figures though. Not that expensive to get done. Removes the guess work. Want to see figures of 100 and above.

The few FD I have stripped to the bone show very little corrosion. Results may differ from region to region.

But if motor is strong and undercarraige and suspension are clean, mileage might not matter that much.

Go through interior and replace all the anti-squeak strips and anti-rattle foams.

Replace broken pieces if possible.

A mileage discount is inevtitable, but would be good deal for someone for a solid car.

I have 167,000 km on my car. It drives and rides like a new GT.

I may be a bit biased:




Floor price for random early S8 on Yahoo Japan is about US$35K and in Australia maybe US$50K equivalent.

Add $15,000 to $20,000 for LHD in the US and a range a of US$50~60k might be a happy result for buyer and seller in your case.

(But don't take my word for it.)


This 1992 Type X with 70,000km had one (1) stuck fastener in the entire car.




My car's doppleganger is stuck at C$21,000 at the moment with 2 days left.

https://buyee.jp/item/yahoo/auction/...uggest_history

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Originally Posted by Redbul
So May ~ September?
so this year i have my refunds already, ~3 weeks after filing, which is some kind of record i think
last year it was late June or so

the amount is semi random too
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Disappointing result for me. Very high mileage for a Japan car. Seller kept talking his own car down. Maybe should have posted a compression test to reassure buyers about the 2014 alleged engine rebuild. Nice pick-up for someone. Price is probably high enough that we will not see this one parted out. See it stateside in two years for US$50,000?



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