How to value your FD
07-19-21, 04:31 AM
#3977
Although my insurer said he would have to cap the agreed value limit because I park in an exposed parking spot, he agreed to a C$35,000 limit last week, based on a professional appraisal of that amount.
(Graded as 3+, 1999 Type RB (special package) with reliability upgrades and OEM+ (Spirit R minus) substituted parts).
(Graded as 3+, 1999 Type RB (special package) with reliability upgrades and OEM+ (Spirit R minus) substituted parts).
07-19-21, 10:57 AM
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Although my insurer said he would have to cap the agreed value limit because I park in an exposed parking spot, he agreed to a C$35,000 limit last week, based on a professional appraisal of that amount.
(Graded as 3+, 1999 Type RB (special package) with reliability upgrades and OEM+ (Spirit R minus) substituted parts).
(Graded as 3+, 1999 Type RB (special package) with reliability upgrades and OEM+ (Spirit R minus) substituted parts).
07-19-21, 02:03 PM
#3979
It shouldn't really. The biggest determining factor on price is condition of the car followed by color/year. And that makes total sense as +/- 8% in price (between an R and a base) is easily lost in the shuffle. So if a car is worth $40,000 that's a measly $3,200 bucks. However, I still believe the only true collectible USDM car is the CYM and I'm waiting to see a very low mileage one (sub 10K miles) come up for sale on BAT. For entertainment purposes of course. With that said the biggest hit on value are the RHD cars and understandably so they fetch the least. The only exceptions being the Spirit R of course.
Bottom line is the thing that makes the 3rd gen such a great car is that all trims were designed to be performance cars, no particular trim is leaps and bounds above of any other. Unlike mustangs, camaros, supras, chargers, challengers, ect. We don't have wussy convertibles that add real weigh and affect the rigidity, nor V6 versions, or N/A models. Nope all of our cars maintain a sports car rigidity (sunroof or not), are relatively close in weight, and all are twin turbo, there is no tame girl version. yep not even the auto.
Bottom line is the thing that makes the 3rd gen such a great car is that all trims were designed to be performance cars, no particular trim is leaps and bounds above of any other. Unlike mustangs, camaros, supras, chargers, challengers, ect. We don't have wussy convertibles that add real weigh and affect the rigidity, nor V6 versions, or N/A models. Nope all of our cars maintain a sports car rigidity (sunroof or not), are relatively close in weight, and all are twin turbo, there is no tame girl version. yep not even the auto.
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07-19-21, 02:09 PM
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07-19-21, 08:27 PM
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07-19-21, 09:51 PM
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Seriously - my guess is that most FDs are only driven on a part-time basis these days. That necessitates a battery tender and that makes the cover a nuisance.
07-20-21, 12:06 AM
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) doesn’t mean there’s something seriously wrong with the car. As some have mentioned, a lot of these get used sparingly. Battery tenders are a must.
07-20-21, 12:22 AM
#3987
Even more rare is the battery lifter cradle. Seems JDM batteries were expected to be smaller and there was a cradle with lifter handles to take it in and out of the battery box. My standard size battery in fact has flanges for some sort of lifting, but they make the battery not fit the box. I have to get around to dremelling the flanges off. For reasons such as that, perhaps many batteries would not let the battery cover sit properly and contributed to it getting lost.
Several years ago, my friend, on a chance, asked for the battery cover at the local Mazda parts desk. He got the last one.
Is this a Ray Crowe item?
Several years ago, my friend, on a chance, asked for the battery cover at the local Mazda parts desk. He got the last one.
Is this a Ray Crowe item?
07-20-21, 12:29 AM
#3988
As people are getting to understand RHD a little more, they understand that there are other desirable versions, besides the relatively common Spirit R. Late model RZ and Bathurst R attract Spirit R level bids in Japan. Series 8 cars (1999+) are going to remain quite rare in North America and with younger plastics and considerably upgraded performance, I 'd bet it will not be long before such cars are at LHD price levels. or greater.
Watch and get your checkbooks out.
Watch and get your checkbooks out.
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07-20-21, 08:44 AM
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Even more rare is the battery lifter cradle. Seems JDM batteries were expected to be smaller and there was a cradle with lifter handles to take it in and out of the battery box. My standard size battery in fact has flanges for some sort of lifting, but they make the battery not fit the box. I have to get around to dremelling the flanges off. For reasons such as that, perhaps many batteries would not let the battery cover sit properly and contributed to it getting lost.
Several years ago, my friend, on a chance, asked for the battery cover at the local Mazda parts desk. He got the last one.
Is this a Ray Crowe item?
Several years ago, my friend, on a chance, asked for the battery cover at the local Mazda parts desk. He got the last one.
Is this a Ray Crowe item?
FE50-18-522, still available
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07-20-21, 01:51 PM
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If you can find a new oem roof skin, reinforcing bar and headliner, and you are extremely meticulous at body/paint work, or you have an excellent custom restoration/body guy/shop you work with, go for it. We did a hardtop conversion on my car, turned out flawless. Impossible to tell from a factory job.
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07-20-21, 03:19 PM
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If you can find a new oem roof skin, reinforcing bar and headliner, and you are extremely meticulous at body/paint work, or you have an excellent custom restoration/body guy/shop you work with, go for it. We did a hardtop conversion on my car, turned out flawless. Impossible to tell from a factory job.
. Which that would suck but whatever...
07-20-21, 11:41 PM
#3995
In terms of value, I don't think I'm alone on not being too keen on purchasing a car where the roof line has been replaced. Well at least not without a substantial discount that is. With that said, from what I can tell the VIN does not differentiate between the trims so guess he could always not disclose what the car actually is and simply let people assume . Which that would suck but whatever...
. Which that would suck but whatever...
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07-21-21, 05:04 AM
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To each his own on added or diminished value of adding a hardtop. Big difference in quality of work, materials and finished product at the average hack body shop and a custom restoration shop, I'm not a tall guy, I just prefer the look of the double bubble roof as Mazda intended.
Expanding a little further on what I was actually trying to say: i can't fathom anyone being able to justify a zero/minimal price differential between an FD that has extensive roof work vs one that hasn't. In other words why would anyone pay $40k for an FD with that kind of body work when they can easily pay $40k for one with no body work?
my $0.02
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07-21-21, 08:58 AM
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In terms of value, I don't think I'm alone on not being too keen on purchasing a car where the roof line has been replaced. Well at least not without a substantial discount that is. With that said, from what I can tell the VIN does not differentiate between the trims so guess he could always not disclose what the car actually is and simply let people assume . Which that would suck but whatever...
. Which that would suck but whatever...as some point we can get the white gloves out and do some concourse judging
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07-21-21, 10:42 AM
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Has any FD been on a concourse? My insurer (Pelling) actually runs the Crescent Beach Concourse and he is doubtful that there are any FD that would come up to snuff *. Largely because of modifications.
To his credit he ran a Japanese import division in his 2018 concourse. An FB won the division prize.
(* I am working on him. He was surprised at my estimate of 300 FD in the Vancouver region. All eventually needing "stated value" insurance. Just need to find 10 unmodified examples. We have perhaps 5-6 Spirit Rs about. That may be a starting point..)
To his credit he ran a Japanese import division in his 2018 concourse. An FB won the division prize.
(* I am working on him. He was surprised at my estimate of 300 FD in the Vancouver region. All eventually needing "stated value" insurance. Just need to find 10 unmodified examples. We have perhaps 5-6 Spirit Rs about. That may be a starting point..)
07-21-21, 11:00 AM
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Has any FD been on a concourse? My insurer (Pelling) actually runs the Crescent Beach Concourse and he is doubtful that there are any FD that would come up to snuff *. Largely because of modifications.
To his credit he ran a Japanese import division in his 2018 concourse. An FB won the division prize.
(* I am working on him. He was surprised at my estimate of 300 FD in the Vancouver region. All eventually needing "stated value" insurance. Just need to find 10 unmodified examples. We have perhaps 5-6 Spirit Rs about. That may be a starting point..)
To his credit he ran a Japanese import division in his 2018 concourse. An FB won the division prize.
(* I am working on him. He was surprised at my estimate of 300 FD in the Vancouver region. All eventually needing "stated value" insurance. Just need to find 10 unmodified examples. We have perhaps 5-6 Spirit Rs about. That may be a starting point..)
the FD is a really easy car to judge, Mazda built them all the same, except for colors. They were also big enough freaks that the hose clamps have specific positions too, so its like open hood, see incorrect clamp, fail...