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Old 10-01-21, 12:51 PM
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High Mass impact socket for front pulley bolt

Saw this in a video the other day -

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It's a 19mm socket that is much thicker and heavier. When you use an impact gun with it has more of an effect due to the extra mass. Going to get one at some point, would be interested if it helps removing the front 19mm pulley bolt.

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Seems to me it would most definitely help...... along with the hottest torch you can find
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Yeah my normal method is torch it then put a 6' cheater pipe on it and a flywheel lock to hold the engine still. Works but it's interesting.

It's always funny to me that people get more worked up over the flywheel nut than the front pulley bolt. Hands down that pulley bolt is WAY harder to remove.

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I use this with a Milwaukee 1/2 M18 impact
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I have yet to come across a front bolt or flywheel that it would not remove. At nearly 1/3 the price the Lisle might be worth a shot for the hobbyist.
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Interesting thread, think I might invest in one of these. I recently had to remove my front bolt and ended up with a 6ft bar to break it loose as my gun wouldn't touch it!
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But the listing says its for Honda.
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But the listing says its for Honda.
19mm is 19mm

Honda crank pulley bolts are also famous for being a pain to remove. You have to remove them to do a timing belt. I've done that job twice on our previous Honda Odyssey's and it is a challenge to get that bolt off.

Regardless I don't see any reason why that wouldn't fit.

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Originally Posted by DaleClark
19mm is 19mm

Honda crank pulley bolts are also famous for being a pain to remove. You have to remove them to do a timing belt. I've done that job twice on our previous Honda Odyssey's and it is a challenge to get that bolt off.

Regardless I don't see any reason why that wouldn't fit.

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^True for the RX7/13B applications, though in other applications where the bolt is more deeply recessed into a smaller diameter pulley/hub opening, the larger outside diameter of the socket might not fit. Just eyeballing those two sockets, it looks like both might give me problems if I tried to use them on my kid's '03 Protege5 hub bolt - also a timing belt job step.
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Originally Posted by IRPerformance
I use this with a Milwaukee 1/2 M18 impact https://www.amazon.com/Ingersoll-Ran.../dp/B01CVAG1SG I have yet to come across a front bolt or flywheel that it would not remove. At nearly 1/3 the price the Lisle might be worth a shot for the hobbyist.

I was going to suggest just welding some mass to the outer end of a lower cost impact socket … no different than cutting a slot in a standard impact socket for removing a neutral/reverse sensor switch.
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So I got one of these for Christmas and had my first opportunity to use it.

No dice.

This was on a Mazda-build RX-8 engine. Heated up the bolt, hit it with the impact gun and this socket, no movement. Breaker bar with 4' of cheater pipe and that was good to go, though.

I have a decent air impact gun. Hell, it did the flywheel nut no sweat.

I think this may help with a real He-Man impact gun but don't expect a miracle cure. Breaker bar and cheater pipe never let me down.

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Originally Posted by DaleClark
Saw this in a video the other day -

https://www.amazon.com/Lisle-77080-H.../dp/B00RGNCV1U

It's a 19mm socket that is much thicker and heavier. When you use an impact gun with it has more of an effect due to the extra mass. Going to get one at some point, would be interested if it helps removing the front 19mm pulley bolt.

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I saw that when you 1st posted it. Being a nerdy engineer type, I wondered if it would help or hinder nut/bolt removal. Depending on the impact wrench, socket, and nut characteristics it could be either way. The impact wrench uses a heavy internal flywheel-like device triggered by intermittent air pressure torque. To do this it accelerates the "flywheel" which then rotationally hammers on the wrench square drive.

If you remember your physics courses, the greater the ratio of the impacting mass vs the impacted mass, the faster the impacted mass will move. This happens both inside the wrench, then from the square drive to the socket, and finally from the socket to the nut. So the effectiveness of impact on the nut depends on the relative rotational inertia of all 3 masses.

That's why I had my doubts on a heavy socket's effectiveness.
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Interesting! I haven't watched that channel in a while, going to need to catch up on it . Thanks for posting that!

That socket looks to be interesting for sure.

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Originally Posted by DaleClark
Interesting! I haven't watched that channel in a while, going to need to catch up on it . Thanks for posting that!

That socket looks to be interesting for sure.

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interesting thing was when you made this post, I immediately thought of this video that I watched a week or so before your post. So, I figured you saw this and decided to order in and make the post…but I guess not.
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