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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 06:33 PM
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why do people remove their FTP's?

i cant' for the love of god find a reason why people remove their FTP lenses. is it for looks? is it for aerodynamics? is it to let air into the engine bay? i could understand on an aftermarket bumper if it doesn't have the holes to mount it, to just leave them off, but i've seen it on stock bumpers too.
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 06:37 PM
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they fall out sometimes from the plastic being brittle and breaking. i saw one get tossed out at an autocross once.
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 06:39 PM
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oh well that would make sense too then, lol.
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 06:39 PM
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I think it is so that they can drive with headlights on and doors down, this would lower wind resistance significantly (~1mpg day vs. night on my car).

Other than that, I have no idea.
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 06:40 PM
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Yeah i was washing my car and the driver side one fell out. I think it looks better without anyways. Now on my turbo convertible i took them out so that air can be directed towards the filter.
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 06:52 PM
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lol

looks? maybe. It looks better with both of them off when one breaks.

aerodynamics? no, it would be the opposite.

Driving with the headlights down in the ON position? Not a smart idea.

Unless you've made a pact with the devil I don't see how air can get into the FTP, go THROUGH the headlight, then Through the metal wall that separates the front end and engine bay.


My honest answer: One broke and the other was removed to maintain uniformity or the person has no idea what they're doing (75% of the members here. OK OK, maybe 68%)
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 06:56 PM
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The tabs on my bumper for the FTPs broke. That's my only reason.
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 07:05 PM
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I took the right one off after some jerk-off in a van backed into my wife in the parking lot. The left FTP just fell out and looked like this:
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by phoenix7
lol

looks? maybe. It looks better with both of them off when one breaks.

aerodynamics? no, it would be the opposite.

Driving with the headlights down in the ON position? Not a smart idea.

Unless you've made a pact with the devil I don't see how air can get into the FTP, go THROUGH the headlight, then Through the metal wall that separates the front end and engine bay.


My honest answer: One broke and the other was removed to maintain uniformity or the person has no idea what they're doing (75% of the members here. OK OK, maybe 68%)
yea i really doubted aerodynamics/air into engine bay, but ya never know.
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 07:06 PM
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Nothing beats the guy that removed his headlight and made an intake out of it!`
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 07:09 PM
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Because most FC owners can't be arsed or can't afford to fix them
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 07:19 PM
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Some think they look better removed, others don't. For the record, I think they look terrible with an empty hole in the bumper where they were, but the afterarket bumpers that delete them entirely don't look half bad.
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 07:23 PM
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they don't look half bad.

They look completely bad.

Bomex FTL!
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 07:34 PM
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Weight reduction, duh.

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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 07:40 PM
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one fell out on one of my rx-7's so i took it off the other one...so now i just have a right side on my S5 and two on the S4
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by phoenix7
they don't look half bad.

They look completely bad.

Bomex FTL!
Haha.. shut up. I don't like bomex usually so you might be correct.
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 08:48 PM
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 08:56 PM
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stupidity!!!!
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 09:13 PM
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My original ones kept getting that glazed over look so I decided to replace them with j-spec ones with the lights in them. But I don't think the normal ftp lenses are that expensive to replace.
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by phoenix7

Unless you've made a pact with the devil I don't see how air can get into the FTP, go THROUGH the headlight, then Through the metal wall that separates the front end and engine bay.
I agree. But then again, If you were to remove your headlights and shround an intake into where the headlight was suppose to be :P I saw several track miatas with that.
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 09:20 PM
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I agree. But then again, If you were to remove your headlights and shround an intake into where the headlight was suppose to be :P I saw several track miatas with that.
That would be a waste of time and energy.
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by WadeMCarter
That would be a waste of time and energy.
why?
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 12:11 PM
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I took mine out because they had water in them and it looked like ***. I'll probably get the Japanese ones some day...
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Gringo Grande
Weight reduction, duh.

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I regularly take ***** for weight reduction!!!!
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by phoenix7
Unless you've made a pact with the devil I don't see how air can get into the FTP, go THROUGH the headlight, then Through the metal wall that separates the front end and engine bay.
I talked to a body shop that says they could perforate that metal wall without reducing structural strength. I've thought about going the headlight cover intake and removing the FTPs route. The headlight cover intakes only function while the headlight is down, removing the FTP and allowing access for air works for at night when the lights are on. I don't know that there is much return on performance with all that effort, so it may never happen. But that is the idea behind it.
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